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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2008, 09:15:41 PM »

I heard something about Minnisota?!?!?! That would be crazy
I want Adrien Peterson and 2 first rounders
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2008, 09:19:55 PM »

We got to take advantage of some team. I want my grandkids to see the Packers have somebodys picks and I don't even have kids yet.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2008, 11:10:26 PM »

yeah. an additional 5th rounder in 2058.  laugh
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2008, 12:58:58 AM »

Brett was pretty clear in "Favre." Brett was pretty clear that he will play no where else. I may have to re read this book to get my love on for the man 

It would be so wrong to see him in any other uniform.

According to Tom Silverstein Jsonline Insiders blog-

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There is speculation that Favre and his agent, James (Bus) Cook, already have a team picked out. A client of Cook's recently told a friend that Miami and Carolina were the teams that were Favre's most likely landing place, and probably the only way he would know that is if discussions had already taken place with those teams.

According to ESPN.com, which has become the medium through which Favre and his agent most often reveal their intentions, Cook's letter to the Packers suggested that the Packers owed it to Favre to release him so he could sign with the team of his choice.


Miami needs Favre BADLY.

I truly would root for Carolina. That just gave me an idea for a new post.

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2008, 04:19:41 AM »

Oh this whole thing makes me absolutely sick. It is like a train wreck. Here I was having an absolutely wonderful evening. Took my wife to see the Police and Elvis Costello. Then I come home at 1 am to all these stupid voice mails everyone mocking my team and my quarterback. I don't care what team he plays for. I will watch them and I will cheer for him. Not them. Him. And when he plays the packers I will cheer for the pack to sack him, and sack him, and sack him. And when he makes that crazy pitch while in the grasp I will still be agape. And when he throws that stupid pass that gets picked off by Atari Bigby. I will say remember when?

Oh my head hurts from all this. It must be a bad dream. I will wake up in the morning and all will be right in packerdom. Please tell me it will be alright.

There is no place like home. click click. There is no place like home. click click. There is no place like home. click click.

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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2008, 01:08:21 PM »

OK This Post was originally a joke when I started it. Now it's sort of real-

John Clayton today saying Carolina doesn't make sense because of 12 million dollar price tag.

He says the teams that make the most sense are:

Miami

Baltimore

Tampa Bay


Here is the video link: http://packers.magnify.net/item/FCM41M954BRM7KHL
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2008, 01:42:30 PM »

To be honest the childish manner in which the Packers front office is acting I would love for Favre to go to another team and destroy them. I can't believe I just typed that...but honestly what are they THINKING?!?! the idea of playing football is to WIN...you need to give your team the best possible chance to go to the big show!!! Aaron Rodgers is unproven and well, Brett has nothing to prove as he is a legend and is the legitimate face of the Packers. I say trade Rodgers since he is unproven and prone to injury and let Brett continue to play with Brohm taking notes. Ugh...what is wrong with the world?!?!
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2008, 12:41:44 PM »

To be honest the childish manner in which the Packers front office is acting I would love for Favre to go to another team and destroy them. I can't believe I just typed that...but honestly what are they THINKING?!?! the idea of playing football is to WIN...you need to give your team the best possible chance to go to the big show!!!

Like he's done for the past 11 years?  The two times the Packers sniffed the championship game or the SB in the last 11 years both ended on ill advised throw's by Favre.  Seriously...Last year Eli Manning won more playoff games than the Packers have won (with Favre under center) since we last appeared in the SB.

Certainly there are no guarantees with Rodgers but there aren't any with Favre either and his recent playoff history would lead you to believe that making the playoffs would not end well and thus would be worth about as much as not making the playoffs in the first place. Combine that with the fact that you would likely lose Rodgers too (among other things) and does anyone really think its worth bringing him back especially considering he was already afforded that chance back in late March and flip flopped then...(convenient that he has suddenly changed his tune right AFTER the OTAs that he has dreaded and avoided attending in the past...way to show your commitment to returning Brett)

Did it ever occur to you that maybe just maybe TT is thinking about winning, and is also thinking about what bringing Favre back into a lockerroom that has "moved on" would do to this team, its chemistry and its chances to go anywhere.

Its not like Favre is chummy with a lot of the guys on this team.  I am sure some of the Vets would be in his corner but a good portion of the younger generation would probably back Rodgers and then you have a divided lockerroom and team. 

IMO, when its all said and done the logical fit that nobody is talking about would be the Redskins.  They don't have a "great" QB, they just got a WCO coach from the eagles, they love trading away draft picks and TT likes to get picks, they were 8-8 last year so Favre could make the difference for them, and it would put them in position to hurt the Cowboys some possibly helping the Packers chances of getting a higher seed if Rodgers plays as well as TT and MM seem to think he can. 

Oh yeah, and their in an area where its not "too hot" like tampa...LOL!

Yep, I am thinking its going to be Washington....because Favre certainly isn't going to want to go to any team in the AFC where he would have to beat out, Palmer, Rivers, Manning, and Brady to get to the SB....

Yes this whole saga is bringing a new definition to the term "favred"   Now "Favred" could mean, lied to, thrown under the bus, jerked around repeatedly, etc...etc...

Its a whole new world and its a world largely of Favre's making...I have to wonder if Favre would ever have done this stuff if his dad was still alive to tell him he needed to get his shit together.

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2008, 01:27:35 AM »


Did it ever occur to you that maybe just maybe TT is thinking about winning, and is also thinking about what bringing Favre back into a lockerroom that has "moved on" would do to this team, its chemistry and its chances to go anywhere.

Ted Thompson has been showing Favre the door since he got there. Yes - he is about winning- his way. And it's sort of what you want in a General Manager. He does not know how to handle superstars. I still don't know if it's going to bite us in the ass. Yet.

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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2008, 09:53:45 AM »

Ted Thompson has been showing Favre the door since he got there. Yes - he is about winning- his way. And it's sort of what you want in a General Manager. He does not know how to handle superstars. I still don't know if it's going to bite us in the ass. Yet.

Well let me ask the question then, How do you "handle" superstars?
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2008, 10:41:41 AM »

That is a very good question.
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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2008, 11:25:23 AM »

That is a very good question.


Alright...well IMO...you treat them as much like any other player as you possibly can and you do your best to ensure that they fit into the lockerroom and buy into the team concept....

Favre has always been thought of as the consumate teammate...And I think on the field thats true.  I also think back in his "hayday" thats true....but over the last few years Favre has been anything but the consumate team mate off the field. 

When TT came in IMO he and MM decided the lockerroom atmosphere had gotten out of control and that the inmates were running the assylum so to speak.  I think every player brought in has first been looked at from the perspective of "how will he fit with this team?" and "how will he affect our lockerroom?". 

I think in the end thats why the Moss deal didn't go down.  I think TT wanted Moss...under the correct circumstances...but Moss CHOSE not to come here because in his words:
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“The Packers were really talking about the wrong things, and not the right things. When they started talking about the wrong things, I just hung up the phone and didn’t want to talk to them anymore.


So what were those "wrong things"...well lets look at the full quote:
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“The Packers were really talking about the wrong things, and not the right things. When they started talking about the wrong things, I just hung up the phone and didn’t want to talk to them anymore. I thought at first it was something that could have worked, for the fact that Brett Favre was there, but I think as the conversations occurred throughout the day and the next day, I didn’t really want to go to Green Bay.”

Asked what he meant by the Packers talking about the “wrong things,” Moss said: “They were just talking about their team concept and the wide receivers, and Donald Driver. “It was like they were telling me that they were going to somewhat take a chance on me, but, ‘If you do come here, these are the things you have to watch out for, and be on your best behavior, and Donald Driver is the top receiver here, so don’t come in and try to step on his toes.’"


So those wrong things were simply asking Moss to ensure that when he came in he didn't just run over the other players, that he would be respectful of the current leaders on the team, that he would have to try to fit in to the TEAM...wow, how horrible. 

See TT and MM already had one prima donna that he had been bending over backward for since they had been there and they didn't want a second.  Thats why they wanted the extra bonus's to be paid WEEKLY...because they new Moss could be a problem in the lockerroom and could destroy what they had been building. 

The really sad thing is, TT and MM have accomodated Farve since they have been in town, giving him past the draft and FA to make his decisions every year, not getting on him for not staying in town and participating in the offseason programs, QB schools and even letting him out of some of the OTAs and mini-camps. They have made exceptions for him that they aren't making for their other players.  They have handled him with "kid gloves". 

This year they asked for an earlier decision and he gave it, then reversed it (which they were fine with) then retired again....at that point, with that player who even NOW is still being wishy washy about whether he'll return or not, how can they not move on.  You have to have 100% commitment and Favre has yet to show that this offseason.  Even now he has said several times that he just wants his freedom and he doesn't know what he will do...

Personally I think TT has handled this about as well has he could have.  I also think Farve is self absorbed and needs someone in his inner circle to slap him upside the head and ask him what the hell he's doing. 

His pr spin he's putting out is IMO only making him look bad and if he handled this differently he could be holding all the PR/public sentiment cards. 

Its a sad time for GB and for Favre...I wish it was different but I don't see this coming to a "happy" ending and IMO TT is handling this about as well as it could be handled from a TEAM management perspective.

This article from SI pretty much sums it up IMO: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/07/17/favre.snaps/index.html?eref=sircrc

IMO this is the quote of significance from the article:
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But I'd like to ask Favre this: Do you think you'd be the kind of teammate you'd want to have if you walked in and yanked the rug out beneath Rodgers at this point, just days before the start of training camp? Isn't that the kind of me-first stunt that a respected team leader like Favre was never afraid to call out a teammate for? Isn't that right, Javon Walker?


And thats really what it all boils down to...this whole last couple of weeks Favre is not acting like "Favre"...the Favre we've come to know and respect as a great team guy, a great teammate, and a stand up guy...a "Man".  This is not the way any of us wanted to see Farve go out...Its sad and its just going to get worse.
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« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2008, 12:37:30 PM »

The NY Jets have now recieved Permission to talk to Farve according to league sources:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3504613
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Sources: Favre, Packers weighing possible trade scenarios
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The New York Jets have received permission to talk to retired Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre, a source told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Friday.

The Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers have expressed interest in Favre, according to a Packers source. Favre, who retired in April, hasn't made a decision on whether to send in his reinstatement letter. Favre has asked to be released from his contract and is aware of the Jets' and Bucs' interest, the source said. The Packers have no intention of releasing Favre from his contract, which expires after the 2010 season.

Also Friday, a Packers source told Mortensen that Favre informed Packers general manager Ted Thompson by phone on Thursday that he was planning to report to the team's training camp Sunday.

The Packers made phone calls Tuesday to several teams after being encouraged by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to resolve the controversy surrounding Favre before camp opens, according to league and players union sources.

On Wednesday, NFL officials said privately that Favre and the Packers have been talking about which teams he'd be willing to go to in a potential trade, according to ESPN's Sal Paolantonio.

It was the clearest signal yet that the Packers will deal Favre to resolve the current stalemate. Green Bay, which has committed to Aaron Rodgers as its quarterback of the future, wants to keep Favre away from its NFC North rivals -- especially the Minnesota Vikings.

Goodell has been briefed by Thompson on the status of the team's approach with Favre. Goodell has encouraged the Packers to accelerate that process by surveying teams around the league to determine if there is a trade partner, sources said.

Goodell also has spoken with Favre, the sources said, telling the veteran passer that he was willing to assist in the process, if necessary.

Several teams in the AFC and NFC confirmed they have been contacted by the Packers.

On Thursday, at the Packers' annual shareholders meeting, team president and CEO Mark Murphy hinted at the possibility of Favre playing for another team by conjuring the image of Joe Montana in a Kansas City Chiefs uniform.

"We want to have positive feelings about Brett and the Packers, and we want him to continue to be a part of the Packer family," Murphy said. "I think the way this is handled will be important in terms of how that plays out in the future. But I'm also cognizant of some of the things that have happened in the past with Joe Montana ending his career with the Chiefs, now you look back on it, most people might not remember that he played with the Chiefs. They remember he was a 49er."

ESPN reporter Sal Paolantonio covers the NFL. ESPN's Chris Mortensen and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2008, 01:30:09 PM »

Favre trade in the works.


Tom Silverstein thinks so. Quote from his article.

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There are some in the Packers organization who think that Favre's alleged dalliance with the Minnesota Vikings - for which the Vikings are being investigated for tampering - was what encouraged him to come back, especially since he would be reunited with his old quarterbacks coach, Darrell Bevell. But with the Packers holding firm that they won't release him or trade him to the Vikings, his desire to come back may have dissipated.

If it were the Packers' choice, Favre would retire as a Packer, and that appears to be why they are taking this route. Thompson has talked about protecting the quarterback's legacy and having him associated only with the Packers; only the threat of Favre applying for reinstatement has forced them to keep their options open.

There are some in the organization who think the club could receive considerable compensation for Favre and owe it to themselves to find out whether that's true. Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy agree, but both prefer that Favre retire.



Link to article here: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=775848
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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2008, 02:40:56 PM »

Gotta think the league would LOVE it if he was traded to the jets...He would then square off with Brady twice a year.  It could only heighten the intensity of the Jets/Pats rivalry....
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