Comments on: Taking Offense with this Defense? http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/taking-offense-with-this-defense/ Sat, 18 May 2013 19:56:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: dullgeek http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/taking-offense-with-this-defense/#comment-16595 dullgeek Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:21:41 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/?p=16202#comment-16595 Not that this really matters that much, but Netflix is back to being one company: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/10/netflix-backtracks-on-qwikster-will-keep-dvds-and-streaming-und/ (I pick the nit.) As for the actual content of your post, I find myself agreeing with Wilde on this one. The Packers success this season will be reflected not by their regular season win/loss record, but by how they perform in the playoffs. And while the Packers have played a lot of lesser opponents so far this season, I'm worried that this defense will be the cause of a loss when going undefeated really matters: in the playoffs. Not that this really matters that much, but Netflix is back to being one company:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/1.....aming-und/

(I pick the nit.)

As for the actual content of your post, I find myself agreeing with Wilde on this one. The Packers success this season will be reflected not by their regular season win/loss record, but by how they perform in the playoffs. And while the Packers have played a lot of lesser opponents so far this season, I’m worried that this defense will be the cause of a loss when going undefeated really matters: in the playoffs.

]]> By: Jayme http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/taking-offense-with-this-defense/#comment-16478 Jayme Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:14:43 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/?p=16202#comment-16478 That is a really good thing to note about the yardage. And definitely agree with you on the lack of pressure being an issue. Hoping to see some pressure once Neal can come back and have trust the Dom will eventually figure out a way to work on it. That is a really good thing to note about the yardage.
And definitely agree with you on the lack of pressure being an issue. Hoping to see some pressure once Neal can come back and have trust the Dom will eventually figure out a way to work on it.

]]> By: Christian http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/taking-offense-with-this-defense/#comment-16477 Christian Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:11:25 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/?p=16202#comment-16477 One big reason for all the yards given up by the Packers D: The opponents have to play "catch-up" most of the time. Desperate plays get called to just stay in reach and maybe have a shot at the end. That leads to big yards gained through the air on one hand and to risky plays leading to INTs by the Packers D on the other. That's why the yards given up by the Packers are not a real concern to me. BUT what is a concern is the lack of pressure on the QB when rushing 4 guys. When you give top passers in the NFL that much time, they will find the open man sooner or later. You just cannot cover for that long. You just can't, even with the class of the Packers D-backs. Last year the Packers could collapse the pocket with 3 interior rushers, while Matthews rushed from the edge. This year all the QB has to do is step up to avoid Matthews. Capers has to come up with a solution. The risk of losing a game in the playoffs like the one back in 2009/10 season against the Cardinals might happen again. I won't say that it will, but there is a high risk in playing this way. During the season these kind of games are so damn entertaining to watch, I take them anytime over a blowout win. One big reason for all the yards given up by the Packers D: The opponents have to play “catch-up” most of the time. Desperate plays get called to just stay in reach and maybe have a shot at the end. That leads to big yards gained through the air on one hand and to risky plays leading to INTs by the Packers D on the other. That’s why the yards given up by the Packers are not a real concern to me.
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what is a concern is the lack of pressure on the QB when rushing 4 guys. When you give top passers in the NFL that much time, they will find the open man sooner or later. You just cannot cover for that long. You just can’t, even with the class of the Packers D-backs. Last year the Packers could collapse the pocket with 3 interior rushers, while Matthews rushed from the edge. This year all the QB has to do is step up to avoid Matthews.
Capers has to come up with a solution. The risk of losing a game in the playoffs like the one back in 2009/10 season against the Cardinals might happen again. I won’t say that it will, but there is a high risk in playing this way.
During the season these kind of games are so damn entertaining to watch, I take them anytime over a blowout win.

]]> By: Jayme http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/taking-offense-with-this-defense/#comment-16468 Jayme Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:39:06 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/?p=16202#comment-16468 My main point was to illustrate that the yardage issue is only one aspect. There are many others, tackling, pass interference penalties, lack of pass rush and wins. All of those factor into how the defense is playing. I am trying to separate the people who question and want better play from those that are a smaller but vocal sect that really do think that Capers is doing an awful job. I have even heard this year that he should be fired. I am not calling anyone who is concerned a defeatist, I am calling the people who before the game is over are saying the Packers have lost, or that the Packers don't deserve to win or that they wish the Packers actually had a worse record or that Dom Capers sucks defeatists. Those people do exist. And those people are getting on my nerves. My main point was to illustrate that the yardage issue is only one aspect. There are many others, tackling, pass interference penalties, lack of pass rush and wins. All of those factor into how the defense is playing.
I am trying to separate the people who question and want better play from those that are a smaller but vocal sect that really do think that Capers is doing an awful job. I have even heard this year that he should be fired. I am not calling anyone who is concerned a defeatist, I am calling the people who before the game is over are saying the Packers have lost, or that the Packers don’t deserve to win or that they wish the Packers actually had a worse record or that Dom Capers sucks defeatists. Those people do exist. And those people are getting on my nerves.

]]> By: o dragao da maldade contra o santo guerreiro http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/taking-offense-with-this-defense/#comment-16467 o dragao da maldade contra o santo guerreiro Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:30:59 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/?p=16202#comment-16467 It is one thing to panic and want to jump overboard, it is another one to express legitimate criticism. In my opinion a number of people are trying to reassure themselves by inventing a horde of fans calling for everyone's head and then picturing themselves as cool, reasoned and reasonable etc... But in reality those fans are nowhere to be found, only people concerned about the subpar defensive play from a "championship team" (let alone a perfect one). "I do hope that the Packers will somehow fill the holes in their swiss cheese defense, but until then I’ll take the wins over the yardage mark." Thank you very much, so do I, but it is not only a question of yardage, it is a question of the defense's play in general. And regardless of yours calling those that are deeply concerned about it a bunch of defeatists the Packers' defense is having real, worrisome, troubling problems. Yours truly It is one thing to panic and want to jump overboard, it is another one to express legitimate criticism.
In my opinion a number of people are trying to reassure themselves by inventing a horde of fans calling for everyone’s head and then picturing themselves as cool, reasoned and reasonable etc…
But in reality those fans are nowhere to be found, only people concerned about the subpar defensive play from a “championship team” (let alone a perfect one).
“I do hope that the Packers will somehow fill the holes in their swiss cheese defense, but until then I’ll take the wins over the yardage mark.”
Thank you very much, so do I, but it is not only a question of yardage, it is a question of the defense’s play in general. And regardless of yours calling those that are deeply concerned about it a bunch of defeatists the Packers’ defense is having real, worrisome, troubling problems.
Yours truly

]]> By: aussiepacker http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/taking-offense-with-this-defense/#comment-16447 aussiepacker Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:27:42 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/?p=16202#comment-16447 "And at the end of the day the only one that matters is the win-loss column." Exactly, you dont get to the finals becouse you gave up the least amount of yards, you get there by wining the most games. I would rather watch the team in the finals every year even if they give up yards than to watch them miss the finals but be in the top ten for yards allowed. “And at the end of the day the only one that matters is the win-loss column.”

Exactly, you dont get to the finals becouse you gave up the least amount of yards, you get there by wining the most games. I would rather watch the team in the finals every year even if they give up yards than to watch them miss the finals but be in the top ten for yards allowed.

]]> By: SpartaChris http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/taking-offense-with-this-defense/#comment-16406 SpartaChris Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:44:08 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/?p=16202#comment-16406 AMEN! AMEN!

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