I assumed he meant it more: a real fan carries the team with them, in some way, everyday. Be it tweeting “go pack go” every morning, be it smiling at a poster of Aaron Rodgers, be it anything. Pretty sure everyday I think of the Packers in some way. Obviously if a loved one was in the hospital or my best friend was getting married, the Packers would probably not be in the forefront of my mind, but like I said, I don’t think John meant it as a black and white statement.

Maybe I’m completely wrong in my assumption. Or maybe as someone who has worked with John for a while now, I get how he explains things, uses examples and makes statements like that to make you think.

I feel, for the most part anyone who reads Eat More Cheese, and a larger part, CheeseheadTV is a “fan”. I mean, anyone who’s stayed with John and I through droughts, drama, wins, losses, and reads, what I call it “the ramblings of two intense fans” is pretty dedicated to the Packers and to this site.

I disagree with John a lot. Which I like. The times when John and I post the same stuff, or when all five Cheesehead Radio hosts agree are boring and bring about only shallow discussions of the Packers.

But I also respect John a lot. Everything he says regarding the Packers comes from a place of love, of obsession, of wanting the Packers to be as good as he knows they can be.

I feel this way about a lot of Packer fans that I have recently disagreed with. With the team going through rough times, I feel like the fans have been very ‘segregated’.

Some see the outcomes of the games and see potential, some see the play on the field and need to yell, some want to pack it in and look to 2013.

I don’t agree with them all. But, for the most part, they all want the same thing. A Great Packers team.

What I’m over, what I see daily in my twitter timeline, in blog posts and in discussions is this “I’m a better fan” “You’re a hater” “You ignore ways to make this team better” etc.

John is not a hater.

But I am not less of a fan because I don’t want to fire Dom Capers.

After a loss, there is no normal way to process it. And with as many small things going wrong with this team, I stand by that there’s not one thing anyone can point to as being THE problem.

I think we all need to step back a little. People who disagree with you are okay. But you know what, so are people who say “Don’t be a hater to my team.” Namecalling is childish, but this entire discussion is also taking away from our time focused on the team.

Can’t we all just hate the Texans right now?

Thanks for letting me hijack the comments.

Growing up in Green Bay, word on the street always was Cade got railroaded so that Lofton and his sexual antics in the elevator of the Top Shelf could walk.

Lofton was well loved nationally. Cade wasn’t a household name until what went down with his aunt.

Doing that is the same as you being called a hater by those disagreeing with you…which you just wrote about.

I called you ‘out there’ on your must wear packer item every day no matter what and many agreed and you backed off by deleting it and then saying another a-hole statement that you “ruffled sensitive feelings”.Yet here you are writing a post defending your apparent sensitive feelings being hurt not two days later.

As to being this sites ‘Troll’ seriously…your shit isn’t worth reading it’s so pathetically predictable..I simply replied to a totally assinine statement that I was made aware of via a tweet before/during a ‘Railbird show’ and knew before I read this one,you were crying over the very thing you said/say about others.

Get a hold on your presumed esteem in the blog-post arena..you really aren’t much except in the ‘clique’.

Love the marriage discussion. So true in so many ways.

It’s great that you brought up Mossy Cade and the nonsense that surrounded him. We hated him for the stigma he brought to the team. But criticizing the team is not hating. Big difference.

Being a Packer fan is like being in a marriage. Marriage is not black and white. Marriage is a give and take. You can be deeply in love with someone and still be irritated with things they do. Yes, you can voice your displeasure with the level of play or with someone’s off the field behavior, just as you can voice your displeasure when your spouse leaves their beard hair trimmings in the sink or puts the toilet paper roll on the wrong way. However, at the end of the day, you still love them, in spite of this.

I believe that those who cry “hater” are the Johnny-come-lately bandwagon jumpers who became fans after the Packers began winning again. It’s easy to hitch your car to the train when a team wins the Super Bowl. The true test is whether you can stay hitched to it for the long haul.

I sometimes wonder if those of us old enough to remember Mossy Cade and his off the field antics would be called “Packer haters” for criticizing what he did. Because plenty of people had definite opinions on that and those opinions weren’t too kind. (Google it, kids.)

There is a difference between constructive criticism and flat-out hater. People need to learn the difference because they are not the same thing.

Go ahead Taryn, keep posting comments. Every blog needs a troll. Congrats, you’re Eat More Cheese’s. How does it feel?