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		<title>By: Jersey Al</title>
		<link>http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/mm-lousy-motivator/#comment-7053</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Minnesota just has better players, I have had it with MM for a while now. Everything I said here:

 http://packerslounge.com/2009/09/21/mm-lousy-motivator/

still applies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Minnesota just has better players, I have had it with MM for a while now. Everything I said here:</p>
<p> <a href="http://packerslounge.com/2009/09/21/mm-lousy-motivator/" rel="nofollow">http://packerslounge.com/2009/.....motivator/</a></p>
<p>still applies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Al</title>
		<link>http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/mm-lousy-motivator/#comment-7052</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell him, Ron...</description>
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		<title>By: Jersey Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense, but that sounds like every bad management book I&#039;ve read. How can you equate an average person going to work with an NFL athlete? Those are too different worlds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense, but that sounds like every bad management book I&#8217;ve read. How can you equate an average person going to work with an NFL athlete? Those are too different worlds.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ron. I need some support up here from guys who remember how it was...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ron. I need some support up here from guys who remember how it was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Al</title>
		<link>http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/mm-lousy-motivator/#comment-7049</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three years of the same problem is too much. That&#039;s what motivated me to write this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three years of the same problem is too much. That&#8217;s what motivated me to write this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Al</title>
		<link>http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/mm-lousy-motivator/#comment-7048</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, but the article was not really about emotion, it was about the ability to motivate. I like my coaches to show some passion and emotion, but of course, they also have to be able to coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, but the article was not really about emotion, it was about the ability to motivate. I like my coaches to show some passion and emotion, but of course, they also have to be able to coach.</p>
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		<title>By: RonLC</title>
		<link>http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/mm-lousy-motivator/#comment-7047</link>
		<dc:creator>RonLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TD,

You might want to read one of Bart Starr or Jerry Kraemer&#039;s books and hear how Lombardi was able to motivate, not only them, but the whole team.  I see Holmgrem grabbing Schoeder by the face mask as a kind of sideline motivation that encourages a player to get back on course.  Their are far too many Nick Barnett&#039;s and not enough Charles Woodsons to have you philosophy applicable to pro football players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TD,</p>
<p>You might want to read one of Bart Starr or Jerry Kraemer&#8217;s books and hear how Lombardi was able to motivate, not only them, but the whole team.  I see Holmgrem grabbing Schoeder by the face mask as a kind of sideline motivation that encourages a player to get back on course.  Their are far too many Nick Barnett&#8217;s and not enough Charles Woodsons to have you philosophy applicable to pro football players.</p>
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		<title>By: TD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-5677&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5677&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RonLC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: You are absolutely right, MM is no motivator.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With all due respect this whole motivation thing just seems silly to me.  Motivation, ultimately, has to come from within.  These guys are professionals, at the very pinnacle of their profession.  If they themselves can&#039;t get themselves motivated to perform at a high level, nothing any coach is going to say is going to do it for them.  I suppose on any given Sunday, a coach might be able to give a Hubie Brooks like speech and get a group of 53 guys motivated to exceep their potential for a particular game, but really ... with adults ... I don&#039;t know a single person who goes to work each day expecting their coach to motivate them to perform up to, or beyond, expectation.  What they DO expect is to know what is expected of them, and they expect that everyone will be held accountable for meeting (or not meeting expectations).  Perhaps its a distinction without a difference  ... but I think setting expectations and holding people accountable is something very different than providing motivation.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-5677" rel="nofollow">RonLC</a></strong>: You are absolutely right, MM is no motivator.
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<p>With all due respect this whole motivation thing just seems silly to me.  Motivation, ultimately, has to come from within.  These guys are professionals, at the very pinnacle of their profession.  If they themselves can&#8217;t get themselves motivated to perform at a high level, nothing any coach is going to say is going to do it for them.  I suppose on any given Sunday, a coach might be able to give a Hubie Brooks like speech and get a group of 53 guys motivated to exceep their potential for a particular game, but really &#8230; with adults &#8230; I don&#8217;t know a single person who goes to work each day expecting their coach to motivate them to perform up to, or beyond, expectation.  What they DO expect is to know what is expected of them, and they expect that everyone will be held accountable for meeting (or not meeting expectations).  Perhaps its a distinction without a difference  &#8230; but I think setting expectations and holding people accountable is something very different than providing motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: TD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-5624&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5624&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jersey Al&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Football is based on emotion. I can’t have a Mr. Rogers leading my team. I know I’m old school, but I don’t want a “kinder, gentler” head football coach. I’ll never change my mind on that.&lt;/P&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Football, like most sports, is a game of execution.  If you block well, tackle well, and don&#039;t turn the ball over, you&#039;re usually going to win a lot more than you lose, regardless of the demeanor of the coaches, or the players.  Having said that, determination and a genuine desire to beat the crap out of the guy lining up across for you goes a long way.  I do like teams that play with a chip on their shoulder and a swagger in their step.  But that&#039;s confidence and toughness which are character traits and not emotions.  But how many times have you seen a team come out on the field (or court) completely jacked, and ride a huge wave of emotion to a big lead for a quarter or half, only to eventually lose late when they&#039;ve burned all the emotional energy they had, and end up with nothing left in the tank ... and then wind up unable to execute and wind up losing.  The problem with relying on emotion and constant adreniline rushes to carry you through an entire game is that both require a tremendous amount of energy to sustain, and often there just isn&#039;t enough in the tank for an entire team to burn on that all the way.  At the end of the day, they still have to execute for 4 quarters, and they need to have the stamina to do it just as well in the 4th quarter as they did in the 1st.   Holmgren was intense, and required intensity from his players ... but Holmgren&#039;s teams won when they executed.  Same with Bill Walsh.  Same with Don Shula.  Same with Tom Landry.  Etc.  Etc. Etc.

Bottom line for me is this ... can MM get his team to execute at a high level consistently, regardless of the game conditions or anything else for 4 quarters of each game in the 16 game regular season ... not if he can get every one of the players on the roster so jacked up to play every week that they are ready to run through walls for him when they come through the tunnel.  If he gets that kind of reaction, and they execute at a high level for 4 quarters, great!  All the more fun to watch.  But its not emotion that carries a team ... its proper execution.  Something this team has not been particularly good at for the last 19 games.  Penalties, dropped passes, missed blocks, blown coverages, are common threads that run through that 19 game stretch.  My concern is not how &#039;fired up&#039; McCarthy gets the guys to play ... its weather he can coach these guys up to not keep repeating the same mistakes over and over and over again.  Given the two games I have seen this season, where the mistakes that have been made look a whole lot like the mistakes I saw for 16 games last year,  I&#039;m not optomistic about it.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-5624" rel="nofollow">Jersey Al</a></strong>: Football is based on emotion. I can’t have a Mr. Rogers leading my team. I know I’m old school, but I don’t want a “kinder, gentler” head football coach. I’ll never change my mind on that.&lt;/P</p></blockquote>
<p>Football, like most sports, is a game of execution.  If you block well, tackle well, and don&#8217;t turn the ball over, you&#8217;re usually going to win a lot more than you lose, regardless of the demeanor of the coaches, or the players.  Having said that, determination and a genuine desire to beat the crap out of the guy lining up across for you goes a long way.  I do like teams that play with a chip on their shoulder and a swagger in their step.  But that&#8217;s confidence and toughness which are character traits and not emotions.  But how many times have you seen a team come out on the field (or court) completely jacked, and ride a huge wave of emotion to a big lead for a quarter or half, only to eventually lose late when they&#8217;ve burned all the emotional energy they had, and end up with nothing left in the tank &#8230; and then wind up unable to execute and wind up losing.  The problem with relying on emotion and constant adreniline rushes to carry you through an entire game is that both require a tremendous amount of energy to sustain, and often there just isn&#8217;t enough in the tank for an entire team to burn on that all the way.  At the end of the day, they still have to execute for 4 quarters, and they need to have the stamina to do it just as well in the 4th quarter as they did in the 1st.   Holmgren was intense, and required intensity from his players &#8230; but Holmgren&#8217;s teams won when they executed.  Same with Bill Walsh.  Same with Don Shula.  Same with Tom Landry.  Etc.  Etc. Etc.</p>
<p>Bottom line for me is this &#8230; can MM get his team to execute at a high level consistently, regardless of the game conditions or anything else for 4 quarters of each game in the 16 game regular season &#8230; not if he can get every one of the players on the roster so jacked up to play every week that they are ready to run through walls for him when they come through the tunnel.  If he gets that kind of reaction, and they execute at a high level for 4 quarters, great!  All the more fun to watch.  But its not emotion that carries a team &#8230; its proper execution.  Something this team has not been particularly good at for the last 19 games.  Penalties, dropped passes, missed blocks, blown coverages, are common threads that run through that 19 game stretch.  My concern is not how &#8216;fired up&#8217; McCarthy gets the guys to play &#8230; its weather he can coach these guys up to not keep repeating the same mistakes over and over and over again.  Given the two games I have seen this season, where the mistakes that have been made look a whole lot like the mistakes I saw for 16 games last year,  I&#8217;m not optomistic about it.</p>
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		<title>By: RonLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally caught up with you over here,  Great stuff Al.  My firm belief is to call it like it is.  At 69, I remember every Lombardi rant well.  I&#039;ll guarentee he would have been in Barbre&#039;s face as soon as he reached the sideline.  On the other hand, Barbre would never have made a Lombardi team either.  The O line problem goes back to the first Detroit game last year.  Nothing has been done to address that problem.  Oh, wait a minute!  they just signed Dane Randolph to take Meridith&#039;s place on the Practice Squad.  All is well in title town

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You are absolutely right, MM is no motivator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally caught up with you over here,  Great stuff Al.  My firm belief is to call it like it is.  At 69, I remember every Lombardi rant well.  I&#8217;ll guarentee he would have been in Barbre&#8217;s face as soon as he reached the sideline.  On the other hand, Barbre would never have made a Lombardi team either.  The O line problem goes back to the first Detroit game last year.  Nothing has been done to address that problem.  Oh, wait a minute!  they just signed Dane Randolph to take Meridith&#8217;s place on the Practice Squad.  All is well in title town</p>
<p>_____</p>
<p>You are absolutely right, MM is no motivator.</p>
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		<title>By: Geurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like McCarthy. But if we keep get so many fuckin PENALTIES I&#039;m going to start not liking him really soon. I hold him responsible for that. That is my main complaint with him. The penalties are drive killers and enable the opponent to keep the drive alive, it is sickening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like McCarthy. But if we keep get so many fuckin PENALTIES I&#8217;m going to start not liking him really soon. I hold him responsible for that. That is my main complaint with him. The penalties are drive killers and enable the opponent to keep the drive alive, it is sickening!</p>
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		<title>By: PackersRS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PackersRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I sure am glad that we&#039;re discussing the Raiders and the Chiefs and not the packers!
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Here&#039;s a line to show how bad KC is: They drafted an elite 1-gap DT, just to change to a 3-4. And worse, they traded a 2nd rounder and are paying millions to MATT CASSEL, a weak armed, system Qb that cannot make reads right, that got a 18-1 team and failed to reach the playoffs. The Raiders may be more comical, but I assure you, KC and Detroit sucks as bad, if not worse, than them.

A line for Detroit? 0-19 and counting, and their owner is even worse than Undead Al. Undead Al actually has won 3 SBs, how many William Darth Clay Sidious Ford has? Worst franchise in sports are the Lions without a doubt. That being said, I actually like what Detroit has done this year, but they haven&#039;t improven their lines, so they won&#039;t win much.
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BTW, Seymour is still a top 10 DL in this league, no matter if his contract is expiring or not. He is a great improvement, and is 30. You can talk about paying that much to Tommie Kelly and Javon Walker, but not about Seymour. And it was a 2011 draft pick, not 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I sure am glad that we&#8217;re discussing the Raiders and the Chiefs and not the <a href="http://packers.com" target='_blank' >packers</a>!<br />
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Here&#8217;s a line to show how bad KC is: They drafted an elite 1-gap DT, just to change to a 3-4. And worse, they traded a 2nd rounder and are paying millions to MATT CASSEL, a weak armed, system Qb that cannot make reads right, that got a 18-1 team and failed to reach the playoffs. The Raiders may be more comical, but I assure you, KC and Detroit sucks as bad, if not worse, than them.</p>
<p>A line for Detroit? 0-19 and counting, and their owner is even worse than Undead Al. Undead Al actually has won 3 SBs, how many William Darth Clay Sidious Ford has? Worst franchise in sports are the Lions without a doubt. That being said, I actually like what Detroit has done this year, but they haven&#8217;t improven their lines, so they won&#8217;t win much.<br />
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BTW, Seymour is still a top 10 DL in this league, no matter if his contract is expiring or not. He is a great improvement, and is 30. You can talk about paying that much to Tommie Kelly and Javon Walker, but not about Seymour. And it was a 2011 draft pick, not 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: packerguy59</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for providing me with a laugh  Packer RS!!!  The Raiders are the WORST organization in football.  The Raiders have more talent than KC or Detroit!  Just because KC lost to the Raiders they are worse than the Raiders!   Come on Packer PC!  The Raiders traded their number 1 2010 draft pick for Richard Seymour.  Seymour has 1 year left on his contract and the Raiders are not sure if they want to extend his contract.  Why would trade a number 1 pick (which will be a high Pick) for a player that you are not sure if you want him long term?  Even the KC has made better moves than that.  Packer PC Jersey AL do your homework?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for providing me with a laugh  Packer RS!!!  The Raiders are the WORST organization in football.  The Raiders have more talent than KC or Detroit!  Just because KC lost to the Raiders they are worse than the Raiders!   Come on Packer PC!  The Raiders traded their number 1 2010 draft pick for Richard Seymour.  Seymour has 1 year left on his contract and the Raiders are not sure if they want to extend his contract.  Why would trade a number 1 pick (which will be a high Pick) for a player that you are not sure if you want him long term?  Even the KC has made better moves than that.  Packer PC Jersey AL do your homework?</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haiku ninja strikes again!</description>
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		<title>By: Favre Haiku</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This team stunk it up
From the top to the bottom
Season teetering
http://www.PackerHaiku.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This team stunk it up<br />
From the top to the bottom<br />
Season teetering<br />
<a href="http://www.PackerHaiku.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.PackerHaiku.com</a></p>
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