Comments on: Keys to 2009 http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:43:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: Globalpack http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/#comment-6081 Globalpack Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:30:12 +0000 http://packerslounge.com/?p=6453#comment-6081 What is dangerous is that improved O-line play didn't even make the top ten. The O-line last year was inconsistent and bad establishing the run. This year the Center, RG and RT could be new starters. How the OL plays is probably a big key to '09 success and it can't even crack the top ten of question marks for the '09 season. I think the Packers will be greatly improved over last year, but a lot of pieces really need to come together. What is dangerous is that improved O-line play didn’t even make the top ten. The O-line last year was inconsistent and bad establishing the run. This year the Center, RG and RT could be new starters. How the OL plays is probably a big key to ’09 success and it can’t even crack the top ten of question marks for the ’09 season. I think the Packers will be greatly improved over last year, but a lot of pieces really need to come together.

]]> By: PackersRS http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/#comment-6080 PackersRS Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:52:14 +0000 http://packerslounge.com/?p=6453#comment-6080 With punter, ST play all along. Except for Blackmon, it was horrid. Jarret freaking Bush was the tackling leader in ST. That says A LOT about our performance. TT apparently solved that problem, drafting ST standout after ST standout. 3 were selected ST Player of the Year by their teams. With punter, ST play all along. Except for Blackmon, it was horrid. Jarret freaking Bush was the tackling leader in ST. That says A LOT about our performance. TT apparently solved that problem, drafting ST standout after ST standout. 3 were selected ST Player of the Year by their teams.

]]> By: Jersey Al http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/#comment-6079 Jersey Al Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:58:24 +0000 http://packerslounge.com/?p=6453#comment-6079 I think Raji and Jenkins should be grouped together at #2 because they are our Plan A, B, C and D. We have little behind them. Many would call me crazy, but I would put punting at #3. If you look at the field position stats from last year, it's a horror show. Field position determines the outcome of many games. I think Raji and Jenkins should be grouped together at #2 because they are our Plan A, B, C and D. We have little behind them.

Many would call me crazy, but I would put punting at #3. If you look at the field position stats from last year, it’s a horror show. Field position determines the outcome of many games.

]]> By: Justin Case http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/#comment-6078 Justin Case Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:40:22 +0000 http://packerslounge.com/?p=6453#comment-6078 Lets not get too giddy on Jeremy Thompson, he's only showed 'something' in the OTAs. As Alan Barbre has showed it's training camp where the truth is really found. I think Mathews jumps ahead at Training Camp for sure. Thompson couldn't do a thing last season (albeit in a 4-3 DE capacity) why should he be hugely better in the 3-4? Lets not get too giddy on Jeremy Thompson, he’s only showed ‘something’ in the OTAs. As Alan Barbre has showed it’s training camp where the truth is really found. I think Mathews jumps ahead at Training Camp for sure. Thompson couldn’t do a thing last season (albeit in a 4-3 DE capacity) why should he be hugely better in the 3-4?

]]> By: Asshalo http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/#comment-6077 Asshalo Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:04:37 +0000 http://packerslounge.com/?p=6453#comment-6077 I don't necesarily agree with Collins. The 3-4 is such a decentralized, communication-reliant scheme that we can't afford any dummies on defense. They need to be intuitively smart. I don’t necesarily agree with Collins. The 3-4 is such a decentralized, communication-reliant scheme that we can’t afford any dummies on defense. They need to be intuitively smart.

]]> By: Asshalo http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/#comment-6076 Asshalo Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:01:36 +0000 http://packerslounge.com/?p=6453#comment-6076 Nice Post. Very true that the majority of our question marks come on the defensive side of the ball. Our early schedule being easier may help the transition. I have faith Capers will make due. He's turned around a lot of defenses. They don't need to be great-- like in 2007. Our overall stats weren't amazing, but we kept points off the board. Normally "10. A Fast Start" isn't a must being many successfull teams have surged late (the '95 pack, '05 steelers, and '07 giants). But given our opening schedule is much easier than our later in the year, it's crucial we win those early ones-- especially since this figures to be a pretty close division race. CheeseheadTV had a very informative post on Thompson (props Aaron and TP) being the best rounded OLB for pass coverage and Matthews being better suited for QB preasure. Here's to hoping the can both do their roles and then some. "5. Short Yardage" That goes for defense as well. The vikings got so many 4th downs that first game and it carried over the rest of the season. We rarely stopped 3rd/4th and short. Nice Post. Very true that the majority of our question marks come on the defensive side of the ball. Our early schedule being easier may help the transition. I have faith Capers will make due. He’s turned around a lot of defenses. They don’t need to be great– like in 2007. Our overall stats weren’t amazing, but we kept points off the board.

Normally “10. A Fast Start” isn’t a must being many successfull teams have surged late (the ’95 pack, ’05 steelers, and ’07 giants). But given our opening schedule is much easier than our later in the year, it’s crucial we win those early ones– especially since this figures to be a pretty close division race.

CheeseheadTV had a very informative post on Thompson (props Aaron and TP) being the best rounded OLB for pass coverage and Matthews being better suited for QB preasure. Here’s to hoping the can both do their roles and then some.

“5. Short Yardage” That goes for defense as well. The vikings got so many 4th downs that first game and it carried over the rest of the season. We rarely stopped 3rd/4th and short.

]]> By: Greg C. http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/#comment-6075 Greg C. Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:55:27 +0000 http://packerslounge.com/?p=6453#comment-6075 10. A fast start would be nice, but there might be a couple of extra losses early due to the new defense not yet hitting its stride. 9. "I can’t think of a time in the last decade when a defensive lineman has been more heralded." Not since...Jamaal Reynolds. Oops. Sorry. 8. I'm hoping for Matthews to overtake Thompson, as I think he has more upside. 7. Between the top three guys, I think we can get good performances out of two of them, and maybe Rouse will be okay as a backup with another year of experience. The safety position is not secure, though. I agree with you. 6. Getting rid of a perfectly good punter was one of Ted Thompson's biggest mistakes as Packers GM. All I want is an average punter, like Ryan. With the exception of him, that position sure has been a headache since Hentrich got away in the late 90s. 5. I thought the QB sneak was effective early in the 2008 season. But then they got too predictable with that fullback dive with Kuhn. That's the problem with having an O-line that is built for finesse rather than nastiness. I think they should just go back to what worked: the QB sneak. 4. Agreed on the importance of Barnett. 3. Ditto for Kampman. 2. Ditto for Jenkins. 1. Yeah, the Packers could get into a big hole if Rodgers goes down for even a few games. But there is still time for one of these backups to show something before the season starts. 10. A fast start would be nice, but there might be a couple of extra losses early due to the new defense not yet hitting its stride.

9. “I can’t think of a time in the last decade when a defensive lineman has been more heralded.” Not since…Jamaal Reynolds. Oops. Sorry.

8. I’m hoping for Matthews to overtake Thompson, as I think he has more upside.

7. Between the top three guys, I think we can get good performances out of two of them, and maybe Rouse will be okay as a backup with another year of experience. The safety position is not secure, though. I agree with you.

6. Getting rid of a perfectly good punter was one of Ted Thompson’s biggest mistakes as Packers GM. All I want is an average punter, like Ryan. With the exception of him, that position sure has been a headache since Hentrich got away in the late 90s.

5. I thought the QB sneak was effective early in the 2008 season. But then they got too predictable with that fullback dive with Kuhn. That’s the problem with having an O-line that is built for finesse rather than nastiness. I think they should just go back to what worked: the QB sneak.

4. Agreed on the importance of Barnett.

3. Ditto for Kampman.

2. Ditto for Jenkins.

1. Yeah, the Packers could get into a big hole if Rodgers goes down for even a few games. But there is still time for one of these backups to show something before the season starts.

]]> By: Graham http://cheeseheadtv.com/eat_more_cheese/keys-to-2009/#comment-6074 Graham Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:25:06 +0000 http://packerslounge.com/?p=6453#comment-6074 Undisputable is right.. AR is the key. I think Collins for all his crap is going to be just fine. The guy did make the pro bowl and he might be stupid but he is a football player. He plays his butt off so lets remember all the heart I see on the field. He will be fine. Bigby? who knows love to shee him health along with Jenkins, Harell (i just puked a little) and all those other injuries. Looking forward to August 1st and then September 13 when we get to play the Bears and test out our 3-4 and Jay Cutler. Should be fun to watch!! Undisputable is right.. AR is the key.

I think Collins for all his crap is going to be just fine. The guy did make the pro bowl and he might be stupid but he is a football player. He plays his butt off so lets remember all the heart I see on the field. He will be fine. Bigby? who knows love to shee him health along with Jenkins, Harell (i just puked a little) and all those other injuries.

Looking forward to August 1st and then September 13 when we get to play the Bears and test out our 3-4 and Jay Cutler. Should be fun to watch!!

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