Comments on: Holmgren vs. McCarthy: The Debate Ends This Season

By: John Rehor

John Rehor — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 01:33:45 +0000

You bring up a good point about the current era the Packers are playing in. Where they wind up historically remains to be seen, but there is a good possibility they could displace the Holmgren/Sherman era (not going to include the Rhodes cup of coffee tenure in the discussion)

By: toolkien

toolkien — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:11:10 +0000

Just as we may be at a tipping point for the 3rd best coach, we may also be a tipping point for the 2nd best era of the last ~70 years, displacing the mid-90′s 2nd to the 60′s. But it all depends on how these next few years go, obviously. There had been slightly more sustain the last five years, but the “bulge” was bigger in the mid-90′s (i.e. 1996 being one of the best teams of the modern era). Another championship will settle the matter on just about every front.

It has been great to have had these three windows of opportunity (’95-’98/’01-’04/’07-’11) which had the Pack as one of the top tier teams over the last 2 decades. Let’s just hope that the Pack can refrain from giving the ball away hot-and-heavy in the playoffs which has afflicted a large proportion of the second two windows (2010 being the exception).

In the end, comparing the two coaches, and separating potency (the GM’s job) from consistency (the HC’s job), Holmgren I think got more consistency from his teams than McCarthy has been getting from his. That I think is true even with the 19 game winning streak which am pretty well settled had to do with such overwhelming potency by the GM versus solid consistency from the HC. That’s not to run McCarthy way down, this is a relative thing and McCarthy is still pretty high overall.

By: Ace731

Ace731 — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:09:54 +0000

It always makes me wonder what could have been if holmgren stayed. He was the only coach that had the reigns on favre. But they only won 1 super bowl. And they should have been in many more. Interesting none the less.

By: John Rehor

John Rehor — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:19:12 +0000

Was thinking about doing this as well. Keep an eye out for it-will try to have it done before the start of the season

By: John Rehor

John Rehor — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:17:57 +0000

Of course he would, but I was trying to compare the same number of years coaching (7 for each). Can always wonder what would have happened if Holmgren stayed, while we are seeing what is happening with MM since he is still coaching.

Glad you liked it-thanks for reading!

By: Mike Smith

Mike Smith — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:15:00 +0000

I’d love to see you do an instillation on Wolf vs Thompson

By: Mike Smith

Mike Smith — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:13:10 +0000

Well, it can end here… If McCarthy doesn’t win this yr but wins 2 more in the next couple yrs, does he not pass Holmgren?
Good article though, I enjoyed reminiscing the Holmgren yrs!

By: John Rehor

John Rehor — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:34:32 +0000

It’s an interesting topic, and have heard pros and cons for both. Will be interesting to see how things pan out over the course of the season. Hopefully it ends with MM and company back on top of the NFL

By: John Rehor

John Rehor — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:32:56 +0000

Thank you. Glad you liked it. Go Pack Go!

By: J.R. Augustine

J.R. Augustine — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:15:55 +0000

There are a ton of factors that can play into who wins this debate, but I think you hit the nail on the head… bottom line… it’s about winning the Super Bowl.

By: CheeseheadKevin

CheeseheadKevin — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:12:08 +0000

Good article. I enjoyed reading it. Lets hope for another title this year. Go pack Go