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Dueling Banjos

Dueling Banjos



Two Packers Lounge writers, two opinions. Jersey Al and Greg C. show their pride and prejudice for this weeks and this preseason's performances.




"Rewarding Excellence"

By: Greg C.

With the preseason mostly behind us, here are some players who should be rewarded with more playing time for their outstanding performances.

This has been such a good preseason for the Packers that there is a long list of players whose stock has risen considerably. Outscoring the opposing team’s #1 units to the tune of 76-10 will do that for you. Here is my own list of the players who have proven the most so far and have therefore made a case for getting more playing time when the regular season begins.

Tyrell Sutton

A couple weeks ago, we were wondering if the Packers might keep four RB’s so that Sutton could make the team. Now it looks like he may be the third best RB on the team anyway. DeShawn Wynn has more size and power and ability to pick up the blitz, but he also has a long injury history. Also, Sutton looks like a player who is just beginning to realize his potential, while Wynn is more of a known quantity. It will be very interesting to see how this shakes out.


Jermichael Finley

The last one who thinks Donald Lee is a better TE than Finley, please turn out the lights. I’m not even sure that Lee is a better blocker than Finley anymore, from what I’ve heard about Finley’s blocking in practice, along with what I’ve seen on the field. And there is no comparison between them as receivers. Finley should be awarded the starting TE job. Your best players belong on the field, seniority be damned.


James Jones

The close race between Jones and Jordy Nelson for the #3 receiver spot never really materialized, as Jones was so far ahead by the first preseason game that he was getting a lot more time with the #1 offense. Jones is a more complete receiver, particularly on the short routes and working the middle of the field. He has earned the right to get the most reps in three-receiver sets, although Nelson will still play an important role in the offense.


Johnny Jolly

Unless B.J. Raji plays lights-out in the last week of the preseason, Jolly should start at left end on opening day. He’s been our best defensive lineman in the preseason. Raji’s freakish size-strength combination will probably win the day eventually, but right now Jolly is the guy.


Desmond Bishop

Ask yourself this question: If A.J. Hawk suffered a minor injury and had to miss a game or two, would you be bummed that Bishop had to take his place? Or would you be excited? I don’t know about you, but I would fall into the latter camp. Now, I don’t want anyone to get hurt, and Hawk is a solid if unspectacular player, but Bishop is much more dynamic. He deserves to replace Hawk at least in certain situations, if not all of the time.


Brandon Chillar

The guy who couldn’t beat out Brady Poppinga at OLB last season has been a perfect fit as a 3-4 ILB. I don’t think Nick Barnett will be much of an upgrade, if any, when he returns. Just as Desmond Bishop deserves to be on the field in certain situations, so does Chillar.


Anthony Smith

With Atari Bigby being a non-factor in the preseason thus far, Smith deserves to start. He hits as hard as Bigby used to, and he appears to have better ball skills. I’m not sure what’s going on with Bigby. Maybe he was a flash in the pan in ’07, or maybe he is still trying to get into the flow after returning from last season’s injury. If that’s the case, he’d better do it fast if he wants to keep his job.


You can find more of Greg C.'s articles by visiting The Gridiron.


"Game Three Winners and Losers"

By: Jersey Al Bracco


Last week I spoke of tempering my excitement and keeping things at a "McCarthy-like" even keel. Well, after whipping the Super Bowl runner-up Arizona Cardinals in the first half to the tune of 38-10, that's pretty darn hard to do. But I'm still going to try. So once again, let's take a calm, rational look at this past week's winners and losers.


Jeremy Kapinos

With his only camp competition (Durant Brooks) sidelined with a hip-flexor injury, Kapinos went into preseason game 3 as the Packers #1 punter. Kapinos had two punting opportunities in the game (thanks to the Brian Brohm-led second team offense) and did well. His punts covered 52 and 56 yards, respectively, with good hang time.

While many people, (including myself) have been writing that the Packers would be scanning the waiver wire after the final team cuts for another punter, perhaps that was never an option. Here's what Mike McCarthy had to say in a Sunday press conference when asked if Jeremy Kapinos had won the punting job "Kapinos has the ball. It's his responsibility to keep it. He's battled through this competition. I thought he kicked well in the game... I have no interest in going through what we went through last year. We'll learn from that experience, and I think it's a great opportunity that he's handled very well so far."

The key phrase in there, of course, is the "I have no interest in going through what we went through last year". That is an obvious reference to last preseason when the Packers cut punter Jon Ryan and brought in Derrick Frost with disastrous results. So it sounds like McCarthy is happy enough with Kapinos to award him the punting job.

While I am a huge believer that winning the field position battle leads to winning in general, if the Green Bay offense is really as good as they've shown, then I'm fine with Jeremy Kapinos. The Packers won't be using him that much, anyway.


Brian Brohm

Nobody has been a bigger critic of Brian Brohm than this writer. While I still don't think he'll ever be more than a backup QB in the NFL, I have to give some credit where credit is due. Brohm has actually shown some signs of improvement over the first three preseason games.

In those three games, his QB rating has improved from 0 to 51 to 104.2. Now, I still don't think he has an accurate enough arm to be successful in the NFL, even if he does get his head straightened out. I still think that comparatively, Matt Flynn was a steal as a seventh round draft pick. And I still want the Packers to get an experienced backup QB on their roster (as I have ranted about before).

But if there's one thing I strive for, it's to be fair. Last week I put Brian Brohm on my 'winners" list as a bit of a joke, noting how he had improved from a 0 rating to a 51 rating. But this week, I actually mean it. I'm taking him off the "favorite whipping boy" list - at least for this week.


Aaron Rodgers

Duh.... OK, so this is an obvious choice, but let me explain. Rodgers makes my list not for his TDs, not for his leadership and not for the results - THOSE are obvious. Rodgers is making my winners list for two less-obvious reasons.

In analyzing Aaron Rodgers play last year, there were three things I thought he needed to improve on. The first one was leadership on the field - and Rodgers showed me that was taken care of in the first two preseason games. The other two things were footwork in the pocket and accuracy on deep passes.

Too often last year, Rodgers took sacks that could have been avoided. He would often turn right into the path of a rusher. Other times, he seemingly couldn't decide what to do and got 'frozen" in the pocket as it collapsed around him. The Aaron Rodgers we saw against the Cardinals looked like a completely different player. He did an absolutely fantastic job of moving in the pocket and avoiding rushers, all while still going through his progressions. On the long pass to Driver, a fast-rushing Cardinal defender had him dead to rights, but a quick side-step in the right direction avoided the sack and gave him time to hit Driver down the field.

Speaking of the long completion to Donald Driver, that brings me to my third Rodgers observation. There was really only one pass that Aaron Rodgers had trouble throwing last season - the bomb. His long passes did not have enough air under them, consequently, he under-threw some wide-open receivers and made it easier for DBs to break up some of those passes.

His pass to Driver had plenty of height, allowing Driver to shield the defender from the ball with his body, letting the ball to drop safely into his hands. On the touchdown pass to Jordy Nelson, there was no defender to worry about. In the past, Rodgers might have under-thrown Nelson, allowing the DB to get back into the play. Last night, he led him perfectly. Nelson never had to break stride, resulting in the easy touchdown.


Charles Woodson

Triple Duh... In my opinion, the individual star of the game. Yes, even over Aaron Rodgers. For the last year, whenever I was asked who the Packer's best defensive player was, I always answered Charles Woodson. For the past month, whenever I was asked by some fan which Packer defender they should take for their fantasy football team, I have always answered Charles Woodson.

And let me say this one final time: Charles Woodson is NOT "getting old". I have seen this written multiple times by bloggers and professional sportswriters alike. Charles Woodson has played 11 seasons in the NFL and is 32 years old. He is an incredible athlete, keeps himself in outstanding shape and has shown NO signs of a drop-off. If anything, he seems to be getting better. Charles Woodson can easily play another 4-5 years at a very high level and probably a few more years after that, if he chooses. So the next guy who writes about how Woodson is not getting any younger and we need to have a replacement for him ready - well, they will feel my wrath.



Ruvell Martin

OK, so this really isn't very fair, but hey, it wasn't easy finding "losers" in this game. Martin was pressed into holding for field goal attempts and was pretty awful at it. In his defense, he is only the "emergency" holder, but I think the Packers need to look elsewhere in case of emergency.

Martin also was guilty of a mistake near the end of the game, but it's one you can almost forgive. He recovered the Cardinals onside kick, saw a lane to the goal line and ran it in for a touchdown. A natural reaction, for sure, but the right play would have been to fall on the ball. By scoring the TD, Martin gave the Cardinals the ball back with an opportunity to go win the game. Falling on the ball would allow the Packers to just run out the clock to win the game. Lets just say I'm glad it happened in preseason.


A.J. Hawk

He is the Packers international man of mystery. Against the Cardinals, he was the invisible man. Looking at the game stat sheet, other than being listed as a starting ILB, Hawk's name is nowhere to be found. No tackles, no assists, no passes defended, no special teams notes. He did play, didn't he?

25 different players are listed on the Packers defensive stat sheet as having accomplished something ( at least an assisted tackle). Hawk's name is not among them.  Desmond Bishop led the team with 8 tackles.

I don't have the game to go replay. So maybe I missed something. Maybe he got hurt, but then again, he wasn't listed in the post game injuries. Maybe he was just rested a lot. Maybe he was semi-benched. If anyone out there knows what happened, please let me know. It's a mystery to me.


The Rest of the NFC North

Ignoring the Detroit Lions (for this season, at least), what do you think the Bears and Vikings were thinking as they gathered around their TVs Friday night? I'm sure they were curious to see what all the fuss was about with the Packers. After all, this team was 6-10 last year, right? So what do you think was going through their minds as they watched Aaron Rodgers and the Packers first team offense embarrass the Super Bowl runner-up Cardinals? After seeing the Packers put up 38 points by halftime, surely only two words entered their minds: Oh s***!

You can find more of Jersey Al Bracco’s articles on several sports websites: Jersey Al’s Blog, Packers Lounge, NFL Touchdown and Bleacher Report.

You can also follow Jersey Al on twitter.

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Comments (13)

Lace's picture

Lolol "Oh s***"!"

That's exactly what they said.

Aaron's picture

Spot on about Finley. And you're right, he has worked his butt off and become a very good blocker. I'm shocked actually...

Asshalo's picture

one of the most underrated-undervalued fantasy players in all the NFL right now too. And you'll be able to claim him off waivers in many if not most drafts

MrBacon's picture

::Devilish Grin::

packerslounge's picture

Unless it's the Packers Lounge draft.

PackersRS's picture

Me too. Big Finley critic. The kid is proving the doubters wrong. He may very well be the real deal. I've allways knew he was a physical specimen, and had great hands, but allways doubted his route running and his perception of the field and the play, as well as his blocking. Well, did you see the catches he's been making. The one that impressed me most was against Buffalo, the second first down he got. Rodgers threw it behind him, and he managed to correct his body, catch the ball, and still win a few yards. And his block on the FB dive last game, against Calais Campbell? Not too shabby... If he was selected at the second round, Flynn at the 4th, and Brohm at the 7th, everything would be wonderful,

Greg C.'s picture

He also made a nice block on Grant's TD run against Buffalo, when he ran wide to the right. Kuhn, Barbre, and Finley all blocked their guys on that play, allowing Grant to score easily.

Asshalo's picture

All our of receivers seem to be making those adjustments mid-throw. The chemistry is there to allow it.

Greg C.'s picture

Al: Good insight on Rodgers. Going into last season, I thought he was going to surprise people with his ability to throw the deep ball, but he misfired on too many of them. Maybe it was the sore shoulder. Whatever it was, the problem appears to have been fixed.

On the other hand, Brian Brohm throws an absolutely lousy deep ball. Unlike you, I'm not seeing much improvement in him, QB rating be damned. He really didn't get much chance to do anything against the Cardinals, though, because the blocking was so terrible.

Jersey Al's picture

Greg - I was mostly just trying to say something nice about Brian Brohm. I've been so hard on him - trying to get my Karma evened out - LOL. (I still think he sucks)

MrBacon's picture

I am not joking, but I think Favre smiled watching Aaron play well, and probably grinned when he burned DRC with that pass to Nelson.

PackersRS's picture

<blockquote cite="comment-5174">

<strong><a href="#comment-5174" rel="nofollow">Asshalo</a></strong>: All our of receivers seem to be making those adjustments mid-throw. The chemistry is there to allow it.


But Finley couldn't do it last year (YES, on those few ocasions that he had to. 3 or 4 times. But he couldn't). And don't get me started on over-the-shoulder passes...

Franklin Hillside's picture

I think that guy is Robert Greefield's cousin. Not positive, but does he play in a jug band? If yes, then it's definitely him.

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