3-4 LB's Already Here?
By Dale Z on Jan 23, 2009 with 14 Comments
Let’s put Julius “we’re not going to get him so stop getting your hopes up” Peppers out of the picture for a second and think about this – We might already have our 3-4 linebacker corp.
I’ve been studying the 3-4 defense since it was announced. I didn’t know much about it at the time and I admit to not being a master of it now. Through my readings I learned interesting things such as Capers’ 3-4 won’t have the nose tackle playing the tradition 2-gap technique. I also learned, as most of us have, that Aaron Kampman will likely be our left outside linebacker. How awesome is that?
I also learned the body types required from most of the positions. After learning a little more about our new defensive scheme I had to look at our current roster and see who will fit into what. I came across surprised that we might already be ready to rock. Here’s how I see things now.
Aaron Kampman – Our starting left outside linebacker. Man that is so awesome to say! Kampman will also play with his hand on the ground as well, which ought to give offenses fits! Sucks to be the others teams in the North.
Nick Barnett – He’s a starting middle linebacker. This won’t be changing any time soon. Barnett had a bad 2008, and now he will be able to get a little crazy in the 3-4. This will be fun to see how Barnett adjusts.
A.J. Hawk – In all likeliness, this will be the man playing next to Nick in the middle A.J. has the speed and the solid tackling ability to be a great linebacker in the 3-4. While Hawk has been somewhat of a disappointment for a #5 overall pick, he’s still a damn good linebacker and I don’t see him playing outside linebacker in the 3-4.
Brandon Chillar – Chillar has experience as the outside linebacker but I don’t know if I see him playing opposite Aaron Kampman. Outside linebackers in the 3-4 need to be large men who can defense the flats, and while Chillar definitely has the speed to get things done, I question his power. Chillar might be the odd man out and playing backup most of the year.
Brady Poppinga – I actually like Poppinga as right outside linebacker. He’s the “Swarmin’ Mormon” for a reason, and that’s how I would describe an outside linebacker in the 3-4. He has to swarm! He has a decent chance at the right outside linebacker spot.
Mike Montgomery – yeah, he’s a DE, but so is Kampman, right? I doubt he plays any linebacker. I’d bet money we see Mike Montgomery gain some weight this offseason and play primarily at the right defensive end spot.
Desmond Bishop – If he can gain weight and keep his athleticism, this would be our right outside linebacker with the current roster the way it is. Bishop can play. He’s a good football player, and I think Capers might be able to turn Bishop into a star. If not, expect Bishop to spell some of the linebackers and the defense won’t miss a beat.
Jason Hunter – Hunter has been a staple on special teams, and what is special teams? Running around at high speeds and hitting people. So, for a defensive end, he has the speed. He has the power. Even outside special teams, Hunter got some quality playing time at DE due to injury, and he wasn’t too bad. He got hurt of course but who didn’t? He’s a solid player and as a 3-4 outside linebacker, he won’t have to disengage from lineman off the line. The advantage is his. Hunter might be our right outside linebacker. He might be out defensive end. The decision for this guy will be made soon
Jeremy Thompson – Rookie defensive end with a similar body type as Jason Hunter. He only played nine games(injured!) so he’s a question mark, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he turns head and gets some playing time in the 3-4. Like Ted Thompson said, it’s all about who’s a good football player and Green Bay drafted Thompson in the 4th round because they feel he’s a good player. Keep an eye on Jeremy.
Now I’m not saying we DO have our linebackers(or defensive linemen) already and I’m not saying most of these transitions WILL work, but with this being about who’s a good football player, which Ted Thompson is good at acquiring(sorry, Justin) and since we now have a good defensive coordinator, some of these players might be playing up to their full potential. The 3-4 is here, and odds are we have 90% of our defensive starters already on the team.
Mike McCarthy said that the Capers 3-4 is “an impressive system that utilizes the talents of its players. That’s really the bottom line.” Yes it is, Mike. Yes it is.
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Interesting to think, then, if we do (or WHEN we do, I should say) upgrade a DT or OLB. Just a couple key pieces could make this defense shine like we know it can.
I think instead of going after peppers we should go after Suggs and let him be the centerpiece of our new defence. Nice post by the way trom I hope it can all work out
Yeah, Suggs would be a lot of fun. Him on one side and Kampman on the other, with Jenkins at DE and probably Pickett at NT. The other DE position is still a little hazy, though. Maybe that’s where our #9 overall first round draft pick will go. Hawk and Barnett in the middle seems almost like a certainty at this point, unless there is a big trade involving one of them.
I agree with Dale that Desmond Bishop could possibly fit in somewhere and maybe be really good. I like the way he plays. It’s going to be a really fun off-season as we watch the defense get reassembled.
Kampman at outside linebacker! that is trouble. Way to slow to be in coverage. I’ve known the 3-4 since the days of Tecmo Super Bowl. Imagine your playing Tecmo Super Bowl on your NES in the parents basement rocking in your sweet video rocker chair. You got a stack of Nintendo Power mags next to the TV and your destroying your BFF with the underrated Majkowski to Perry Kemp connection (you even put Sharpe at RB and kill). Next game your friend takes the 49ers who are impossible to stop, so you have to pick the next best team, the Giants. So you use Lawrence Taylor to get to Montana, but also to run the field with Jerry Rice, it still doesn’t matter because every Montana-Rice pass gets completed no matter how many men are on Rice. Now imagine you replace Lawrence Taylor with Aaron Kampman, yuck! Kampman can’t play in a 3-4, at linebacker to slow for coverage and gap control, at defensive tackle he’s not big or strong enough to attract and stuff multiple blockers. Trade him for better suited 3-4 talent or …ouch… get a 2nd round draft pick for him that Ted Thompson will blow on another wide receiver.
did he ^^^ just compare real NFL to Tecmo?
thats worse then comparing real NFL to Madden
Both MM and DC were extremely confident we already have the players in place for their brand of the 3-4 (see recent press conferences). It’s not going to be a pure 3-4; it’s going to be a 3-4 adapted (hopefully) to maximize the strength of our personnel.
“Now I’m not saying we DO have our linebackers(or defensive linemen) already and I’m not saying most of these transitions WILL work, but with this being about who’s a good football player, which Ted Thompson is good at acquiring(sorry, Justin) and since we now have a good defensive coordinator, some of these players might be playing up to their full potential. The 3-4 is here, and odds are we have 90% of our defensive starters already on the team.” not sure I agree on everything said about the players, but this last part kinda nailed it.
Tufu McMoney, I think you underestimate Kampman’s speed. Keep in mind, Kampman has always been an “undersized” defensive end(and was criticized heavily before he started putting up pro bowl numbers, then people let his size slide. Funny how that works).
Kampman will be blitzing, controlling the flat, zoning that left area,etc,etc.
This was a good article Dale.
“Let’s put Julius “we’re not going to get him so stop getting your hopes up” Peppers out of the picture for a second and think about this – We might already have our 3-4 linebacker corp.”
Maybe we can bring this back into discussion. MM just hired the former Dcoordinator from carolina. I would hope this improves our chances.
I did not think, that it could be true..
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for the retard that dissed on kampman about being too slow for one kampman is one of the faster de in the league not to mention he played linebacker in college and dom capers has turned slower de’s into a linebacker before and it worked out so do your research before you try to dogg on the hardest working defensive player on the team.
Dal the guy that dissed Kamp also said he was playing him on NES Tecmo
So take that with a grain of salt
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