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Will Recent Signings Cause Some Jealousy?

That's what Andrew Brandt is hinting at today over at the National Football Post:

...as happens so often in football administration, no good deed ever goes unpunished. There are still a few players whose contracts have not been addressed and who are now asking, “What about me?” as they form a line at the door. The low rumble of discontent may pick up a notch soon in Green Bay.

Normally, I would dismiss this as idle speculation from a national pundit, but Brandt's in a unique position in that he is familiar with most if not all the players involved. He knows the agents, he still knows most of the front office people in Green Bay and he knows most of the players. If there have been whisperings of discontent, and I don't doubt there have been, he would know.

Not that this would be unexpected. The team still has a long list of restricted free agents who have not signed their tenders yet. Nick Barnett even joked about being jealous over on Twitter. Daryn Colledge was reportedly upset the Packers tendered him so low and that the team didn't want to talk extension at the end of the year - and now he's watched three guys get p.a.i.d. paid. It happens - guys see their teammates getting paid, and paid well, it's natural to ask "What about me?"

It will be interesting to monitor this throughout the offseason, especially as it pertains to the teams Restricted Free Agents who, when they sign on the dotted line, will be working under one year deals.

As Brandt says at the end of his post:

...the offseason is just beginning.

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RockinRodgers's picture

We just resigned alot of players the past two years, so I don't think you will see to much of that. Colledge is just crazy to ask for a big deal right now. I wouldn't be shocked if he's traded.

nypacker's picture

The only player who seems jealous is Colledge. Other than that the locker room is fine. Btw Nick Collins was reaaalllyyy jealous for the past couple of seasons for not getting a new contract right?

NickGBP's picture

There were whispers of discontent last season about the fact that the Packers weren't paying their talented players before they made these signings.

Regardless...there will be some people that are upset.

eric's picture

You know, I kind of feel bad for Colledge. I am really pulling for him to step his game up in 2010. Him and his wife are very active in the Green Bay area. More than any other player on the team. He's involved with countless chairities and host's multiple Packer talk shows. In return, he now gets to compete for a job with his very best friend at LG.

I'm not saying to keep him for that reason, but I can understand why he might be pissed. Hopefully this will make him a better player.

NickGBP's picture

Perhaps he'll have a career as a radio host or something. The only thing that matters is his performance on the field.

Dilligaff's picture

besides Colledge, what other players might be in this group?

hyperRevue's picture

Yeah, I just commented on Brandt's post asking him for some specific names, because, really, I couldn't think of any. I guess College is the main guy, but he hardly has much of a case.

packeraaron's picture

hyper - no way Brandt will give names. No one would ever talk to him again.

FITZCORE1252's picture

Good call. College and who else??? Much ado about nothing. Off-season filler.

GBP 4 LIFE

bigfog's picture

I'm thinking Tramon Williams. Possibly Johnny Jolly.

FITZCORE1252's picture

Tramon WILL get paid by the GBP... eventually, they like him. Jolly's got a 'case' pending, he doesn't have a ton of leverage at this point.

hyperRevue's picture

I was thinking more of speculations, not actually naming names of people who have talked to him. But, yeah, you're right.

That doesn't stop you though. :) Who do you think he might be talking about, aside from College.

packeraaron's picture

I could see Hawk, Jackson and Jones being a little miffed. Esp Hawk.

hyperRevue's picture

Brad Jones? Really?

packeraaron's picture

Sorry hyper - no, James.

hyperRevue's picture

Ah, gotcha. haha. I was gonna say...

Dilligaff's picture

really you think Hawk is not paid high enough?

hyperRevue's picture

He thinks Hawk thinks he isn't getting paid enough.

packeraaron's picture

I think Hawk is paid just fine. But he's watched as Barnett, Poppinga, Chillar, and Collins all got new deals. Not saying I'd agree, just saying I wouldn't be surprised.

Pack Fan In Enemy Territory's picture

Hawk makes very good coin, Aaron. Try again...

packeraaron's picture

So while marginal players like Poppinga and Chillar are getting extensions and obviously in the teams plans going forward, Hawk is just happy answering questions about how he's being phased out of the defense and might possibly be cut? Try again...

FITZCORE1252's picture

All of the above can step up their game, and they 'MIGHT' get paid. Right now, none of them have a legitimate bitch or a leg to stand on.

GBP 4 LIFE

hyperRevue's picture

haha. WTF! My 2nd comment posted 4 times. Now I look like some newbie jackass.

FITZCORE1252's picture

Newbie jackass

pczrvp's picture

Newbie Jackass.

Satori's picture

Tramon Williams
Woodson won't gripe, but he he was DPOY
Jolly
Jenkins
Jones
Wells
Spitz
Colledge
Bigby

packeraaron's picture

Agree with a good part of this Satori.

PackersRS's picture

Aaron. It does send a message: "If you play well, I'll reward you. If you don't, I won't."

TT's moves have been fabulous so far. Players from within the organization now know that if they work their butts off, they'll get rewarded. And if their play is mediocre and they complain, they won't.

How do you feel the young up-and-commer pass-rushers from Chicago think about Peppers getting so much money? Sure, they all like when they're winning. But not so much when they're losing...

hyperRevue's picture

Yeah, that's sort of my thinking. I'm sure every player wants more money, but I only really care about the players who gripe with cause, as Collins certainly did (not that he griped, mind you).

If College is pissed, so what - play better and the Packers will pay you. Ditto for someone like Bigby.

Jolly, Jenkins and Wells I agree with. I could see being jealous and with reason.

packeraaron's picture

PackersRS - don't disagree. But history shows, no matter who's getting the money - someone who is NOT will be upset.

PackersRS's picture

Absolutely. I'm not disputing that.

But you gotta agree that the ones who get angry in the Packers' case usually didn't do enough to get the money, and wouldn't hurt the team if they left.

While in the Bears' case, if Tillmann feels that way about Peppers' contract, then there's trouble...

Nypacker's picture

I think Hawk's discontent is not with salary but about playing time. After the cleveland game the media did ask him repeatedly about splitting snaps with Chillar. He didn't sound so happy about it and Chillar's extention doesn't bode well for Hawk's future. Couple that with Kampman's recent departure and Hawk's future with the team seems somewhat grim.

RockinRodgers's picture

That is every team. I'm sure every team has a handful of players that think they are due some extra cash.

Ron LC's picture

If the tenders are as low as Colledge seems to think, why is there little or no action in the Market? Perhaps the players aren't viewed by others as they view themselves?

The key signings in that group are Williams, Wells, Jolly, and Jenkins. The rest can be replaced.

packeraaron's picture

Ron - supposedly the RFA market is supposed to be heating up in the next few weeks. I'm dubious, just because this is one of the deepest drafts in years. I just don't see GMs throwing picks at teams to get guys they will then have to extend anyway, and usually for much more money than what they would have paid for a rookie.

PackersRS's picture

I really doubt any GM will spend more than a 3rd round pick on a RFA. Not this year.

packeraaron's picture

Brandon Marshall could move for a 1st. That wouldn't surprise me at all.

PackersRS's picture

I'll give you that.

The only possibility, though.

Brian Carriveau's picture

I penned a similar article on Sunday wondering about the "Ramification of the Nick Collins deal":

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/fanblogs/87622687.html

Jim_in_DC's picture

Every year somebody's miffed. If the players want to solve that problem, all they have to do is negotiate with the league for a player wage scale, based on position and years in service. Throw in a few performance incentive bones to differentiate between the all-pros and the all-Joes. Do you think that'll ever come to pass? LOL! Me neither! :D

WoodyG's picture

Brandt won't provide names because he has no names ........ Any 'net writer' can plant seeds of 'possible' discontent based solely on opinion & nothing else ......

This is just another prime example of the medias' long standing approach to reporting .......

" Why report the facts when it's easier to 'just make up stuff.' " ........

It's pathetic.

packeraaron's picture

Woody - you are proving right here you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Brandt is not a "net writer" - he's a former member of the Packers' organization, one who negotiated every single player contract for over 10 years. He was up for Mark Murphy's job. The guy knows everyone on both sides of the negotiating table for the club and the players other than Russ Ball, and he has worked with Russ on other outside occasions. The guy is not some random internet blogger.

IPBprez's picture

Exactly. Well put, Aaron. I remember reading Andrew's Article on what he went thru during the re-negotiations of Brett Favre's contract (2000-2001). That one Article, by itself, tells pretty much the whole story of how well ingrained into the Organization he was (and still is, apparently).

I've sometimes wondered what the Packers would be like now, if he had been given the Job, instead of Mark Murphy.

As it is, he has a pretty goo thing going over at his Website.

CSS's picture

The NFP writing staff have more credibility than most. They've been part-n-parcel to the process and are more than capable of separating the 'chaff from the wheat' when it comes to rumors. They, themselves, used the media top perpetuate rumors in order to serve their clients/personal needs.

It's entirely plausible to believe the NFP staff as a byproduct of their residual relationships still in the biz. It's completely improbable to believe sites like Packer Update (sorry, had to) dealing in pure anonimity and hypebole.

nerdmann's picture

Packer Update was never um, "dismissed" by the Packers organization. At least not that we know of.

WoodyG's picture

Brandt at this moment is an 'internet blogger' ....... Nothing more, nothing less ....... I know his background very well ........ His background is history.

Brandt is always only a signature away from another 'financial' consulting job for any one of 32 NFL teams ...... Knowing this, agents & players will always filter their contractual concerns if dealing with Brandt or any of his NFP comrades..... (Or simply not divulge any info to him at all)

Brandt doesn't need to be propped up by you ....... All the 'net writers' at NFP are constantly straining themselves propping each other up...... The 'back-patting' on NFP is ridiculous & should be an embarrassment to all bloggers.

NickGBP's picture

Smackdown has been layeth

Brian Carriveau's picture

I'm not embarrassed by the NFP, but I am embarrassed by your comments, Woody.

Pack Fan In Enemy Territory's picture

What is it exactly that embarrasses you about what Woody said?

On a different note, I would be embarrassed for myself if I was gloating about being linked in a PFT post. Talk about an embarrassing site to be associated with.

nerdmann's picture

"with which to be associated."
I agree with all the other parts.

packeraaron's picture

Again, you show you don't know what you're talking about Woody. They're not 'propping each other up'- they're showing they know exactly what they're doing as a new start up, because that's all NFP is - a start up. Constantly pimping their product is good web biz. It's How To Grow Your Site 101.

In regards to the idea he could be hired by a team at any time - that is true of every team but one. The Packers.

Oppy's picture

Uh, Woody...
"Knowing this, agents & players will always filter their contractual concerns if dealing with Brandt or any of his NFP comrades….. (Or simply not divulge any info to him at all)"
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Just thought I'd point out that, if I'm not mistaken, one of Andrew Brandt's business partners in The National Football Post is actually an active NFL Player Agent- just so happens to be Al Harris' agent. It's also my understanding that Al Harris is an investor in some way, shape, or form.
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So that sort of blows your theory that all these nfl-insider types 'filter' information or just stay mum because Brandt might get back into the game. Guess what? The roll call at NFP is MADE UP of NFL-insider types, guys still in the business, and guys who still have all sorts of inside contacts. You are way, way off on this one.

nerdmann's picture

So, this makes you think they might be biased in FAVOR of management?

Oppy's picture

Players jealous of other players' contracts?
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F*** 'em.. You can't run a business- or live your life- trying to pacify every cry-baby.
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This possible 'issue' that Brandt has stirred up isn't even worth a story... Simply because it happens in every locker room of every team in the NFL every year when new/amended contracts are inked. For that matter, it happens in every workplace in every occupation whenever some Schmoe thinks some other Schmoe is getting more money than him/her. Content with their pay yesterday, and crying that they're getting the shaft the second they think someone else got a raise.
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My parents taught me at a young age not to worry about what anyone else gets paid. Worry about your own pay and your own performance. After all, these Athletes DID sign their own contracts, didn't they?

nerdmann's picture

Once you've been fired from an organization, all's fair, right?

pczrvp's picture

What a coincidence!
"F*** ‘em.. You can’t run a business- or live your life- trying to pacify every cry-baby." was the title of our sermon at church last Sunday.

longtymefan's picture

Heard Woodson might be upset

Sunflower100's picture

It's already pretty well known that Colledge has some issues. Some people are speculating that Woodson would want more money after being named DPOY. Of course that is all just speculation. Nothing factual on that has been reported.

Sunflower100's picture

I wanted to add keep in mind that Colledge might still be secretly ticked about the Tony Moll trade. The packers mistake was keeping breno on the roster and putting Meredith on the practice squad. Moll would have been worse then Colledge as a LT.

WoodyG's picture

The media hypes, misinforms, exaggerates, misleads, blurs fact & opinion & can & often does provide a disservice to the public ........ You can be happy with the state of the media if you like ..... I'm not.

Aaron
You've got a long ways to go before you can claim any great wisdom concerning the media ...... You've been wrong too many times to dismiss other opinions with your patented ......... "you don’t know what you’re talking about."

I'm being blunt but, remember, it's just an opinion.

packeraaron's picture

(sigh) You're right. 10 years working with editors and reporters from every major news outlet in the world has given me no insights WHATSOEVER into how the media operates. I humbly apologize.

Oppy's picture

Ouch! Aaron, I hope you served that up with a side of Aloe-vera gel for the poor chap.

slapinem's picture

colledge is not that good and all his whining should get him a reserved spot on the bench.... the packers could do better than him with just about any other guard they have.
I also saw someone said that A.J. Hawk might be miffed about not getting enough money... well as far as i'm concerned A.J. needs to show something before he get's another cent. He's soooooo slow in coverage, he get's burned constantly. Don't get me wrong I don't hate the guy, I just don't think he deserves a raise until he can be a more complete linebacker.
Oh and just to reiterate if colledge is going to be pissy DUMP THE JERK!

pczrvp's picture

I'm torn... who do I side with? Charles Foster Kane (Nagler), defending the impeccable character of journalist. He's possibly been corrupted after 10 yrs in the "system"...
Or do I side with Ted Kaczynski (WoodyG), emailing verbal bombs to anyone claiming Journalistic Integrity.
Our society is in decline and the media is to blame...
I need some clarity here. Help me out.

IPBprez's picture

Not to worry - you're safe. You've decided to google the web as a way of finding out facts, on your own.

In another Forum on a different topic, however, you would be dead on. The MEDIA has a very real impact on the actions of any Society - therefore, they MUST be held accountable, at all times.

At least with CHTV and a few other Sites, we can find credible commentary and even more credible debate - in some arenas, this is not allowed.

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