Will Packers Entertain Trading Flynn?

Slow news day, someone in the comments suggested a post on it, why the hell not.

I did get lots of emails and Tweets regarding this report in the Cleveland Plain Dealer:

The Browns, who are also interested in Seattle backup Seneca Wallace and possibly also Green Bay backup Matt Flynn, will most likely let their newcomer compete for playing time, a source told The Plain Dealer on Friday.

The article is actually about the Browns being interested in David Carr...who ended up signing with the 49ers.

As for Flynn, I think it would take a pretty decent pick for any team to pry him away from the Packers, and by decent I mean at least a 3rd. McCarthy has invested a good deal of time developing Flynn, who looked on the verge of being competent when he came in against the Seahawks this past season.

I would doubt anything happens this offseason, but if Flynn lights up the preseason this year the way Hasselback used to on a regular basis, you can bet you'll hear Flynn's name badndied about quite a bit before the trading deadline and definitely next offseason.

UPDATE: This probably becomes academic with the news the Browns have indeed traded for Seneca Wallace.

 

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ctSharpeCheddar's picture

March 08, 2010 at 04:33 pm

I want two 1# for Flynn

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dilligaff's picture

March 08, 2010 at 04:39 pm

Ya it would have to be a 2nd round pick or higher. There might be some more interest after a good showing this preseason. Yet again bang for buck, he makes for an excellent backup for the Packers. I don't think his contract is any where near approaching a million yet, unlike what we were paying for Brohm.

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Jayme's picture

March 08, 2010 at 04:44 pm

Simply put, I do not believe Matt Flynn is tradable. Since Flynn is the only backup** that the Packers currently have developing in their system, his experience is more important than his ability. Other teams would not get the full value of his experience in a trade as they do not run an identical offensive system as the Packers. Because of this, and the risk of a draft pick being a bust, the Packers would require a draft pick that would be greater than any team *should* offer in return. At least, that’s the way I see it.
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** Since Chris Pizzotti was only signed in December, I'm not counting him yet.

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Alex Tallitsch's picture

March 08, 2010 at 04:46 pm

Bring in a veteran!

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alfredomartinez's picture

March 08, 2010 at 05:03 pm

ive been saying for a while, that it could be interesting to see a combo trade (flynn/james jones) to any team in need of a decent qb and a consistant wr...for sure a second/third round wouldnt hurt the pack...of course they lose flynn, but a decent veteren on the market could do as well...i think...

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Glorious80s's picture

March 08, 2010 at 05:23 pm

Not time for that. Anything less than a first puts the Packers in a hole. A rookie would take time to develope, a vet is not looking toward the future. GB has a vet (AR) and a developing young backup (Flynn), maybe future starter material. The Packers have too much invested unless they get an offer they can't refuse, ie the ctSharpCheddar, otherwise known as two thirds of the John Hadl trade. (two 1s and two 2s) :>)

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Ruppert's picture

March 08, 2010 at 05:26 pm

I wouldn't mind seeing that James Jones/Flynn combo trade (although I DO like Jones, btw). Then sign a vet QB and draft a WR/KR/PR combo to replace Jones and help our dreadful special teams. Then package a combination of draft picks, including the one we get in the trade, to move up and draft a potential new LT. It's combo day in Packers fantasy land!

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JohnRehor's picture

March 08, 2010 at 05:43 pm

I asked Tom Pelissero from the Press Gazette about trading Flynn on 2/28 and here is what he had to say:

[Comment From jrehor: ]
"Matt Flynn is getting more respect as a quality backup. Would Thompson consider putting him on the trade block to pick up more picks, especially once players start to get released and veteran qb's are available."

Tom Pelissero: "I think that's a possibility, yes. He's probably another preseason away from bringing real value. But a source I trust within the league told me he thought they would have found a taker if they'd pushed him last year, too"

If there is a team willing to give Thompson what he would want, I think he would pull the trigger. I only hope he has a solid plan for Rodgers' backup if that happens.

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ctSharpeCheddar's picture

March 08, 2010 at 05:55 pm

Glorious8 you know I am not serious.Remember we only recieved a 3rd round pick for Mark Brunell who was drafted higher than the 7th round.Funny you mentioned the Hadl trade.That was for his name only.He was demoted to back up by the Rams(behind James Harris) before he was traded.

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ctSharpeCheddar's picture

March 08, 2010 at 06:00 pm

The market is bad to trade him now.Too many vets available.

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PackersRS's picture

March 08, 2010 at 06:16 pm

I'm on the Flynn bandwagon since he came on board. Never thought about bringing in veteran backup with him...
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But I was on Brohm's bandwagon also, so...

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hyperRevue's picture

March 08, 2010 at 06:17 pm

If the Packers could get a 3rd round pick for him, I'd probably make the move and bring a vet in (a #2 would be a no brainer). Although, the free agent QB market is pretty pathetic - Daunte Culpepper? Joey Harrington? Kyle Boller?

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hyperRevue's picture

March 08, 2010 at 06:24 pm

Hasselbeck only backed up Favre for 2 seasons before being traded (he spent his first season on the practice squad, after being drafted in the 6th round). So, the comparison is actually closer than I realized.
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Then again, Holmgren drafted and coached Hasselbeck, so he knew who he was trading for. Maybe history will repeat itself and Schneider will make a move for Flynn.

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As far as moving Jones in a package, I'm not a fan of that idea. With Driver aging and showing some signs of it late last season, I don't like the idea of trading away WR depth. I wonder if Javon Walker has anything left in the tank.

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FITZCORE1252's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:04 pm

Keep Matt.

Hopefully he has a great preseason, in turn making him more valuable next off-season. I really think he could be one of those solid career backup guys. I don't see him commanding a 3rd... as of now.

GBP 4 LIFE

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Pack Fan In Enemy Territory's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:28 pm

Flynn didn't look so hot when he came in in week 17 if I remember correctly. Obviously if someone offers a 2nd rounder then you might just have to take it, but I doubt anyone would be willing to give that up for him. I think a 3rd or a 4th is pushing it too, but maybe some team sees something in him to drop either of those picks on him. I'd much rather they keep him unless someone gives an offer they can't refuse, which IMO is highly unlikely.

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cow42's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:31 pm

Why trade him?
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Every time I come to this site someone's getting traded...
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Grant
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Jenkins
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Flynn
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Great plan for success (or not)... acquire a guy, groom him, when he starts to get good/learn the system trade him, repeat.
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Silly stuff.

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dustybricks6's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:37 pm

well the browns just brought in seneca wallace, so rest assure our lil' 7th rounder will still be in green & gold next season.

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alfredomartinez's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:38 pm

RUPPERT, I like jones too...thats why he would be the bait...and COW42...we're just day dreaming, thats why we aint GMs...hell ima cook for gods sake lol!!

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cow42's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:47 pm

how do you know i'm not a GM?

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BLACKHAWK's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:50 pm

Hyper, you forgot Jack Delhommie. I say keep Flynn uless we can get a second. His also has value as Crosbys holder, however Mason may see the door if he doesn't get his act together.

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Hyperrevue's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:54 pm

Cow42- like Alfred said, we're just shootin the shit. But, when it comes to grooming a guy and trading him when he gets good, yeah, that is a good recipe, assuming that guy has no real value to your team. We're not talking Jermichael Finley or Greg Jennings. We're talking the backup qb. If he could get a 3rd or 2nd round pick, then it would make sense to move him and use the pick to help fill a need elsewhere.

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Hyperrevue's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:55 pm

Delhomme is a VERY interesting conversation. I've read nothing about his future. I wonder where he'll end up.

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Glorious80s's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:55 pm

Couldn't agree more cow42. What is gained in trading Flynn? Those vet QBs that are out there are teamless for a reason. That's a stopgap at best and going backwards at the least.
They've groomed Flynn for this system. He's improving. Another off season should help. I wish GB could have kept Brohm for at least this pre-season, then do a trade if he failed to progress. Get something for him.
Yes, ctSharpCheddar, I get it. :>)
But, a 2nd, 3rd or 4th is not enough for the disruption to team progress it would cause, I think.
That Hadl trade hurt the Packers for years, as did the Robinson pick in 1971.

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cow42's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:56 pm

delhomme is a turd.

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Nypacker's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:58 pm

Hey aaron looks like your going to be disappointed again. Ryan clark just signed a new deal with the steelers.

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PackerAaron's picture

March 08, 2010 at 07:59 pm

Nypacker - yeah, saw that. Not disappointed. Just thought it would be a good fit.

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dustybricks6's picture

March 08, 2010 at 08:02 pm

give me derek anderson from the browns as qb #2 in green bay if(when) he ends up on FA market.

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Hyperrevue's picture

March 08, 2010 at 08:09 pm

Remember, without the Hasselbeck trade the Packers never would have had Jamal Reynolds...yeah, let's keep Flynn.

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MadMan's picture

March 08, 2010 at 08:15 pm

I would hate to see Flynn go even for a 2nd rounder. I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses this off season. I also would like to see McCarthy give him more playing time in pre season games this year. I believe he has the ability to be a great back up to Rodgers for a long time.

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Hyperrevue's picture

March 08, 2010 at 08:20 pm

But MadMan, how long will that really be? He'll be a free agent in 2 years. If he progresses as you hope, do you think he'll really re-sign to be a backup?
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I'm not saying a trade will happen this off-season. It probably won't. But to turn down a 2nd round pick in a very deep draft when the Packers are so close is silly.

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C.D. Angeli's picture

March 08, 2010 at 08:42 pm

Perhaps I am in the minority, but is anyone else worried that Flynn isn't any more ready or prepared than, say, Craig Nall? Being an understudy for a very good quarterback has a way of inflating your value, but in reality, we haven't really seen much from him.

Maybe I'm wrong. But, if someone is willing to part with a first/second day pick for him, I'd probably take it. The only hesitation is the day when A-Rodge really DOES have to miss a stretch of games due to injury...will the Packers have their Steve DeBurgh back there to keep the momentum going? Is that Flynn, or is he elsewhere?

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MadMan's picture

March 08, 2010 at 08:48 pm

Hyperrevue, I think this years draft is deep also. I'm hearing that next years draft may be as good but how can you tell now. Rodgers durability is not in question, but to make it through the season you will probably need your back up to secure a win. Fortunately with Brent we did not. I don't think we can count on that not happening. If he proves to be effective next pre season I think a lot of teams with crappy QB's will be knocking at our door. How much would we have gotten for Hasselbeck if we would have waited a little longer?

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Hyperrevue's picture

March 08, 2010 at 09:00 pm

MadMan - that's definitely true. And like has been said, the veteran qb fa market is beyond thin. And going into 2010 with a rookie backup is hardle ideal.

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The flip side is to hold onto him for 2 years, hope he develops and then franchise and trade him.

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MadMan's picture

March 08, 2010 at 09:11 pm

I agree Hyperrevue. I think their will always be enough teams out there looking to upgrade their QB situation. I just want to see us getting max value for our players. We always seem to lbe on the short end (ie J.Walker, Hasselbeck, come to mind). Not too many Doug Pedersen's out there. I also think we have enough picks now to get some good value in the draft without having to lose our second QB. I like what I see in Flynn.

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Brett Cristino's picture

March 08, 2010 at 09:20 pm

I'm a big Flynn fan, prototypical backup QB and he's shown major strides from year 1 to year 2. Mccarthy is as good as it gets in the NFL when it comes to developing QBs and I think if we hold onto him for another year we could maybe fetch a low 2nd-high 3rd for him this time next year. Reminds me quite a bit of Hasselbeck. Doesn't have a big arm but it's good enough, he's accurate, moves well in and out of the pocket, savvy, tough, and can make plays with his feet when the pocket breaks down. I think he's a lot better than people realize and he'll prove that this offseason.

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Ron LC's picture

March 09, 2010 at 11:25 am

Any value Flynn would have is predicated on how the league views TT and MM's success rate in QB identification and development. Flynn is really the only QB that could fit in that category so far. With only two years and virtually no playing experience he worth is very suspect at this time. You would get nothing for him on the market. Keep him!

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