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What's With The Cushion In the Secondary?

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What's With The Cushion In the Secondary?

Seriously.

Again and again on Saturday night we saw some form of the ridiculous cushion Tramon Williams gives Evan Moore at the top of the screen in the clip below:

I mean, that's like taking candy from a baby if you're on offense. It's 2nd and 6 and Tramon is giving him an 8 yard cushion. WHY? Is he afraid Evan Moore is going to run by him? Is he coached to hang back like this? If so, why?

I'm sure there's some very complicated, technical football reason for this. But in the land of common sense I can not think of one earthly reason to give Evan Moore eight yards on 2nd and 6. And we saw this throughout the secondary on Saturday night, guys giving huge cushions to the receivers.

Just maddening.

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PackersRS's picture

Yeah, complained about this last season. Don't want to jump to conclusions, though. But it was not a one guy problem, and we didn't seem to have this problem with a different coordinator.

We surrendered 23 passsing TDs, 28th in the league. Giving cushion did not work. It's time for us to play more aggressively.

nerdmann's picture

We gave up 23 TDs, because we were down to our 6th CB. We'll be fine.

CSS's picture

Morgan Burnett (#42) appears to be waving him back. Is he making the adjustment in this case?

packeraaron's picture

I see him holding up his hand. Don't see him waving him back...

Jayme Snowden's picture

This was simply maddening to watch. If it was 2nd and 16 maybe I can see the cushion, but lining up like that is conceding the first down. Maybe if the pass D was actually better at containing the long ball I could understand some sort of logic that allowed for cushion at the line, but as we give those up right and left, we have to get better at something, perhaps everything

JimR_inDC's picture

The National Football Post has this article indicating Al Harris could be back at practice next Monday. I am really hoping we can see the old Al Harris back at CB, and move Tramon to nickel back.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Al-Harris-could-return-to-practice-M...

D.D. Driver's picture

Harris was one of the worst offenders last season of playing 10 yards off on a 3rd and 8.

asshalo's picture

"What’s With The Cushion In the Secondary?"
Ugh, I know. Reminded me of the Bears. Seriously.

Cole's picture

Maybe Capers instructed them to hold back while Burnett and Collins get their communication figured out in the preseason. That's the only logical reason I can see for it. Capers needs to take notes from Gregg Williams (sp?) from the saints. You win by attacking not sitting back and playing prevent. Capers drives me nuts some times.

Willis's picture

I think it's probably Capers, which might make the problem worse, or better if he's actually intending to play "vanilla." Let's pray his mind get's right 'fore the season.

packsmack25's picture

My guess is that it is an extension of them stressing TACKLING. Give up the short pass and MAKE THE TACKLE. I would think it would also force the pass rushers to work quicker. I'm convinced there's a method to the madness. Last year it was just because the depth in the secondary was so slim. This is just preseason though, so I'm thinking they are working on something...

Brando's picture

That was my thought, all season we've been hearing how they are stressing tackling. Even going back to basics with the tackling into pad drills. I figure they went easy on pass rush and soft on coverage to give the DB's a good test of their live tackling skills.

Hopefully this Saturday they'll be more into real pressure and coverage so we can gauge how our defense is really doing.

Michael (Pat/s Twin)'s picture

HOLD BACK seems to be theme of pre-season posturing by NFL. These contacts are so complicated that there has to be hidden agendas with pre-season games via pass coverage and tackling and even blocking. They screw around and soneone will for sure get hurt. The Big Money is of course Regular Season and they can't hide it from the monitors of Forums and Blogs. I bet if "big money bonuses" was offered during Pre-Season like a insurance policy than we would see some real competition. I am sure there is a little cheating on less contact if one would shoot from the hip. Can you blame them?

PackersRS's picture

Cole, packsmack25 and Michael make very interesting points. Could very well be it.

Still, it's a reoccurring thing from last year. But, just like with ST, that we might have been terrible due to Cleveland being great and the extense use of different personel, there could very well be a reason for that.

Cole's picture

Yes they do, I hope that's the case. Can't wait for week 1!

NYPacker's picture

The funny thing is, if you look on the other side Charles Woodson is practically kissing his reciever. Why is it different on the opposite side of the field?

PackersRS's picture

Good question.

Care to answer, Mr. Williams?

PackersRS's picture

Oh, and, BTW, is it just me or Burnett gets beat deep by the slot receiver? If Delhomme lobbies it, it's a TD?

MSauce's picture

It's just you, there's a Safety deep off-screen with help over the top.

packeraaron's picture

Exactly. Collins drops to a single-high look just before the snap.

PackersRS's picture

Damn you, NFL, with your not wide enough image. Yes, I'm blaming the NFL for my lack of perception.

(But Burnett did get beat deep by the receiver, be it by design or not).

ToddFromMinnesota's picture

I'm back...Did you hear Favre is on his way to Minnesota. Lovely time to come for a visit. Back in Purple again. .....lol

PackersRS's picture

YAY! Favre is back! All is well! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smhiIIekc8g

ToddFromMinnesota's picture

PackersRS - I know I seen it the first time when my team was still playing and your team was eating the local cheese and crying about how hard those Cardinals hit....

PackersRS's picture

Who needs rings when you measure sucess by finishing ahead of the important team in the division, right?

ToddFromMinnesota's picture

Not exactly but that is why Favre coming to Minnesota makes it that tougher for your team to get a ring this year. Minnesota just got that better....I just love the games to come. Can't always win the big one but you can always beat Green bay with its castaways.

PackersRS's picture

Can't ALWAYS win the big one?

Anyone? This is too easy...

JimR_inDC's picture

Oh joy, the troll from Minnewhatthe*** is back.

ToddFromMinnesota's picture

I'm back for another great year of Green and Gold Trash talking. The purple will be in Green bay to proof once and for all that even a 40+ year old can beat the very poor team of the green and gold. I would be ashamed of myself and my team for what happened last year. Thanks and I'll continue this later in the year.

nerdmann's picture

What is disturbing to me about this clip is that he's lined up against Evan Moore. Isn't he a TE? He was in camp with the Pack last year, correct? Does he really have that great of speed that Tramon is worried he's gonna get beat deep?

packeraaron's picture

Thus my whole point. Exactly! You are Tramon Williams - Evan freekin' Moore is not going to be running by you!

Michael (Pat/s Twin)'s picture

Viking fans always have resources to offer tisk tisk tisk but when it comes to post season play-offs there mouth is to sore from silence. Yes that would be winning the "big game" you know the Super Bowl! Sure vike fans always have to deal with post bottom bowel bowls! Sure paying players to much money for dreams!

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