Thompson Right To Wait On Collins
By Aaron Nagler on Jul 06, 2009 with 4 Comments
I’m in complete agreement with Matt Bowen over at the National Football Post when he says:
If I’m Packers GM Ted Thompson, I might want to make it clear that there will be no negotiations with safety Nick Collins or WR Donald Driver — because there are sure to be some jealous faces when WR Greg Jennings walks into that first meeting of training camp with a big new contract.
The last thing this team needs is guys worrying about their own money while they’re trying to get ready to compete in the NFC North. Avoid all distractions in August. They always lead to bad things.
I’m pretty sure the bolded has already been done, but if it hasn’t, it certainly needs to be.
Collins had a red-hot start to 2008, snagging several picks and bringing three back for touchdowns. This early success led to his being voted to his first Pro Bowl which in turn has led to his seeking a new deal, at least if you follow the thought pattern of Andrew Brandt.
But as I’ve said over and over, Collins is not nearly as good as his rep would indicate, and I think the fact that the Packers have not even started talking to Collins’ agent about a new deal shows that Thompson knows the same thing.
I know I get accused of ‘hating-on’ certain players, Collins in particular. Let me draw as clear a distinction as I can using the feeble means available to me.
First, watch this play from Week Four of last year. Note where Collins is on the field when he makes his (admittedly brilliant) interception. It’s a fantastic play, one that Jon Gruden even went out of his way to commend in his post-game press conference.
But it’s also the beginning of many of Collins problems later in the year.
Now take a look at this play from Week 15 against the Jaguars. Watch the replay after the initial live coverage of the play. Watch how Collins, the SAFETY, gets caught watching the receiver and completely falling for his stutter-fake. On a 3rd and 19!
That, in a word, is horrible.
The corner is allowed to fall for the stutter fake – because he is expecting safety help. The safety should be watching not only the receiver, but more importantly, the quarterback. Watch Garrard on the play again – he doesn’t even give a pump fake. He completely stares down the receiver. That was a gift-wrapped interception blown by horrific safety play.
The play in Week Four and others like it were used against Collins as the year went on and he was never able to adjust, biting on fake after fake and giving up way too many big plays. On top of the coverage aspects were his horrible tackling. Yes, Collins will occasionally deliver a big hit – while lowering his head and throwing a shoulder into a running back or receiver. But when matched up one-on-one and with the defense in desperate need of a stop, Collins again and again could not make the tackle when it mattered, mostly due to terrible technique. (To be fair, this problem is rampant on the defensive side of the ball, something I hope Capers addresses early in camp)
This is the guy who is pouting that the Packers won’t talk extension. It’s absurd and Thompson is right to wait and see if Collins can improve on what was a very uneven 2008 performance.
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I think there are a number of things working against Collins in getting his extension. One, he just got a fairly big pay bump due to escalators and he is just not grossly underpaid this year. Two, TT just may not want to put huge money into that position. Three, there is just a huge graduating class this next off-season and Collins may be several spots down the list as far as priority. Four, from Lori Nickel’s story yesterday: “Collins is not the so-called quarterback of the defense anymore, so his absence doesn’t hurt the Packers there. That responsibility is shared now.” Five and probably more important the first four combined: TT puts a value that a player has to the Green Bay Packers and he doesn’t stray too far from that number. This number depends not only on the position but mostly on how TT grades out a player and I think the post above explains very well why TT doesn’t grade Collin’s out as highly as many analysts (and fans) do right now. I am guessing there is just a big divide between TT’s number and what Collins thinks that number should be right now. Given that disparity and an upcoming deadline, TT probably prefers to work on extensions for the plethora of other players in their contract years that are not so over-valued right now. Guys like Colledge, Spitz, Clifton, Chillar, Williams, etc… All guys that have value to the team and more importantly are more willing to sign extensions around TT’s assigned value or close to it.
Great piece- spot on.
Man, I wish we could get an Ed Reed type on this team. Someone you don’t have to worry about, a complete player. Seems like our safeties for the longest time can either cover or tackle, but not both. Collins is sealing his fate with his stupid comments and his absence. Good riddance.
I agree. Collins’ ’08 was WAY overrated. He made the Pro Bowl because of his gaudy INT/TD totals and on those alone. And a few of those plays were because of him being in the right place at the right time and not because of brilliant defensive reads.
He blew too many coverages and missed too many tackles to be considered a top-tier safety, which is likely how he wants to be paid. Granted, an INT for a TD more than makes up for a couple of blown coverages, but still.
Did anybody watch that “Inside Lambeau” show last year when Collins was a guest? He sounded so cocky and egotistic. He basically went on about how he considers himself a top safety and thinks he’s great. Confidence is a good thing, but that’s the kind of guy that will do whatever and go wherever he can to get even just a few more dollars.