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Tallitsch Vs. Nagler: Round One

For those of you who are unfamiliar, Alex Tallitsch over at Packers Lounge has a (healthy?) obsession in trying to pick fights with me. We decided to do a civil back and forth on this lazy Sunday looking at the Packers offseason so far, the good and bad of 2009 and we took a look forward to 2010 and beyond.

We each got to ask five questions, while the opponent got the opportunity to retort. Think you'll enjoy.

The Questions

Tallitsch

1. For the record, what is the Packers biggest need in the first round?

I've said it once, and I'll say it again, if there is a top flight running back on the board take him. However, I am still a big fan of taking the chance on an impact player. You saw Minnesota do it last year with Percy Harvin. When the Packers have anything but a top-ten pick, you rarely see them draft a heralded player in the first round. I hate to use Justin Harrell as an example, but apparently I just did. Personally, and all the draft guys can say what they will, I like Taylor Mays. He has super-star potential, and fills several needs in both the secondary and at the line of scrimmage as a backer. He is an athlete plain and simple. I think Green Bay is the perfect place for Mays. Yeah, yeah, I can hear it already.

Nagler

They don't really have a 'need' in the first round. They have a solid squad and should take the most talented player on their board. Fans love to plug roster holes with draft picks, but that's the easiest way to kill your squad for years to come. The whole point is to stock your cupboard with talent, as much as you can find. As for Mays or any other specific player - sure, why not? I've read and seen the same things you have, but as I wrote last week (that's just for you Alex) the people over 1265 Lombardi Avenue have seen a hell of lot more of these players than you or I ever will. If they say Mays is the pick, cool. Let's roll.


2. Daryn Colledge - Leave him alone, or let him have it?

Never have I longed for a subscription to the JSOnline's Insider chat more than I did this week when I heard the Greg Bedard was going to tell fans to lay off Darren Colledge. I have, and still, vehemently disagree. Darren Colledge should shut the hell up, and get his rear end into Green Bay. In my book, Darren Colledge has proven nothing. Every employee is asked to make a lateral move at some point in his career. The good employees adjust and embrace the opportunity. The bad employees bitch, moan, and don't attend company functions. I know they are friends, but you can hear Jason Spitz smiling from here.

Nagler

I say leave him alone. What's his biggest crime again? Wanting to stay put at one position? Wanting some public support from his coaches? Wishing he got a better offer from the Pack? None of those exactly scream "I hate Daryn Colledge!" to me. As for his supposed "bitching and moaning" what exactly has he said? Sure, Bedard had reported he's not happy. But until I see a direct quote, I'm ready to give him the benefit of the doubt.


3. Who do expect to improve the most this year? Why?

I am surprised to say this, but I am going to with Will Blackmon. I hate to throw the health card in there, but if Will can stay healthy, he will have the opportunity to make strides. There are going to be plenty of reps to go around for Blackmon this year in training camp. With Al Harris gone, and as many questions as answers, the time for Will is now. I know he called Green Bay boring, but you can tell the guy is both embracing his peers and his fans. Only good things happen when you do that kind of thing in Green Bay. Will Blackmon - mark it down.

Nagler

Jermichael Finley. People see what he did last year and think that "he's arrived" What I see is a guy who started to get it. He and Rodgers clearly have a connection and he did a great job down the stretch of finding seams in zones and winning one on ones. But I fully expect him to improve his blocking now that he's been named the starter. Finley told the story of how he went to the coaches at halftime of the playoff game and said he needed to be split out wide because Arizona was doubling him inside. They had that luxury without threat of a running game. If Finley can become a better blocker, and I think he will, the Packers' use of playaction will get Finley even more opportunities. The sky is the limit for this kid.


4. To what do you attribute the change of attitudes in the Nick Collins' situation this off-season?

A lot of people tell me that it's all on the Packers for the sudden change in the Nick Collins attitude. I firmly believe it's Nick Collins himself. I think Nick learned a lot about being a man and a person last season. With the death of his father, the negativity from fans, and his contract situation, I think Collins just needed a cleansing. I think the young man started to learn that there are greater things in life, and perhaps, last season put the perspective on that. No matter the reason, I applaud Nick Collins for everything he has done in 2010.

Nagler

No idea. Really, what's the point here? It's nice to play psychoanalyst from afar, but we'll never know. We can't know. And who even says his attitude HAS changed. His business tactic may have changed, with his agent saying they were going to try a different tactic. But who knows if that's true. The biggest change that I can see is that he was much more consistent on the field. Not as many flashy plays but he eliminated most of the horrific breakdowns he saw at the end of the 2008 season. And if there's one thing Ted Thompson likes its consistency. Collins got paid because of it. Everything else is just guessing.


5. Where do you place Aaron Kampman on the list of greatest Packer defensive ends?

I have to put him at number two right between Reggie and Willie. Aaron Kampman defined, much like the other two, what it means to be a Green Bay Packer. I don't care about the numbers on this one, Reggie is the best, and Aaron is now number two. It is remarkable the similarities of both if you get right down to it. Aaron Kampman was a class act all the way, and as a future Packer hall-of-famer, I don't see how he falls any farther on the list.

Nagler

Have you lost your mind? Kampman ahead of Davis? Hell, ahead of Sean Jones? Kampman was a great Packer and I'm sad to see such a great person leave the Packers but lets get serious. The guy was smart and talented and did more with less in a way I've never seen at the pro level. But to say he's better than Willie Davis or even, again, Sean Jones is ludicrous. I mean, I liked his thank you ad to the fans as much as the next guy, but let's not lose our senses because of it.


The Questions

Nagler

1. Are the Packers serious Super Bowl contenders?

They are indeed. I'm one of those that thinks the 6-10 year was more a fluke than anything. Lots of injuries on defense coupled with a predictable scheme along with 7 brutally close loses just doesn't happen every year. Even Football Outsiders acknowledged there had never been a season like it. Now, all that said, there's still plenty of work to be done. They need to improve their pass rush and they need guys to get healthy in the secondary. But a little help from the draft and improvement from within and this team is ready to take a shot.

Tallitsch

Hey, I actually agree with something that Aaron said. I also think the 6-10 was an anomale mostly due to distraction. And again, I don't care who you are, get that many guys hurt and you're done. I will concede we are closer to the SuperBowl than I think we have been in years. You can reference 2007, but this team is going to be much more solid. Stay healthy this year, and domination is a possibility.


2. Can Brad Jones be the starter opposite Clay Matthews?

I don't see why not. The guy did a decent job last year when injuries to guys in front of him got him into the lineup. He was stout against the run (surprisingly) and showed a move or two rushing the passer. I'll be very interested to see how an offseason in the weight room and the classroom effects his game. And I have no doubt the Packers will draft someone at the position to provide some competition. But without question, I think it's his job to lose.

Tallitsch

Can he be? Sure. Can he be a superstar? The jury is still out on that one. There are a lot of scouts shaking their heads wondering how they missed the potential of Brad Jones. For god sakes, the guy came in as a rookie and held is own for almost day one. Let's see how he plays when he's playing for his job in 2010.


3. Should the Packers be looking for Donald Driver's replacement?

Absolutely. Driver has been a great Packer. He's said he wants to play until he's 40. But you can't deny the guy slipped a bit down the stretch last year, if even ever so slightly. It's always better to phase a guy out a year too early than a year too late. I know people think the Packers are set with "all" these receivers the Packers have, but all it takes is one injury for everything to go to hell. The Packers got pretty lucky last year in that department, though I found it incredibly interesting that when Finley went out the offense became much less dynamic. Nelson and Jones, talented though they are, both have some pretty big glaring holes in their games. Neither is a worthy heir to Driver's throne. The time is now to find that guy.

Tallitsch

This isn't much of a battle so far Nagler. The answer is indeed yes. Like I wrote in the past (touche) Donald Driver is the next Tory Holt and Isaac Bruce in hiding. It's only a matter of time for Donald. On the other hand, I think our depth is fine right now. Jordy, James, and let's not forget Swain have shown they can play at a high level. Yes, we need a replacement for Driver. Is it a concern THIS year, no.


4. Was the offensive line as bad as people make it out to be last year?

No. Alan Barbre was beyond atrocious. Daryn Colledge definitely struggled in spots, especially when he was asked to play left tackle. But overall the line, man by man, played pretty well. Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy had a large part to play in the number of sacks they gave up the first half of the season. Rodgers held the ball far too long on occasion and McCarthy seemed determined to bring back the days of Don Coryell. People like to say Mark Tauscher 'saved' the season, but he didn't do anything that T.J. Lang didn't do in his start against the Cowboys. The biggest failure was on McCarthy, Philbin and Campen for two things - having half the line move positions for one injury (Clifton) and not giving Lang a serious shot in training camp. The fact they thought Barbre or Giacommini could be the answer, and STILL seem to think that, is a frightening thought for any Packers fan.

Tallitsch

Yes, but it wasn't always their fault. The line at the beginning of the season blew. Barbre sucks and so does Colledge. After Spitz went down, I really feared the worst. However, credit Tauscher for saving the day. Whether he played lights out of not, he solidified that line. The minute he stepped in the confidence level rose ten-fold. Let's not leave are beloved Aaron Rodgers and long route play calling out of the conversation either. I put a third of the sacks on Rodgers and the lack of offensive play calling adjustments.


5. If the NFL locks out the players in 2011, will you still watch the Packers and the NFL when and if the games resume?

Not a chance. If they miss even one game because of this stupidity, I am done. Forever. I know Greg Bedard has called me a liar on this one, but I'm as serious as a heart attack. If a bunch of multi billionaires and a whole lot of millionaires can't get their shit together between now and September 2011, there will be no reason for me to care anymore.

Tallitsch

I'll watch, but only because it will give me plenty of material to bitch about. Will I buy anything, at all? Hell no. But, I will watch as a curious onlooker nonetheless. I'm sick of the way money plays a role in professional sports enough as it is, and I knew it was only a matter of time before it hit the NFL. Will there be a Packers Lounge to talk about it? Probably not, why bother?

Comments (53)

cheese5's picture

This whole Will Blackmon Green Bay is boring is a NON-Controversy

Green Bay IS BORING. I love it I was born there but it's a boring place. Appleton is more exciting than Green Bay- Leave it to Packer's fans to take the truth as an insult.

packeraaron's picture

Amen.

Alex's picture

Amen - Shaymen. He should have kept it to himself. It's not that I'm insulted, it's just a dumb move.

foundinidaho's picture

EXACTLY.

PackersRS's picture

So... What did we learn?

Aaron Nagler hates Kampman. HATES Nick collins. And kittens. And somehow loves Colledge, and Bush.

Well, we didn't lean nothing new...

packeraaron's picture

Riiiiiggghhhhttt

pczrvp's picture

You could have posted this at the top. It would have saved me the time of reading the article.

packeraaron's picture

What article? This is blog post, put up on a Sunday, when there's nothing going on. In MARCH. God forbid...

PackersRS's picture

It was a great idea, nonetheless... Kudos to both of you (but mainly for Alex, A.K.A. the PackerBlogger bully)

pczrvp's picture

Just giving you a hard time. Great idea. As I'm new to this site, I must compliment you. Great, well reasoned posts. I can see why you and Wilde have a bro-mance going. You both have an even handed approach to the team.

BTW, you're absolutely right about Kampman, Jones, White and Aderly.

Oppy's picture

1) I wish I could find the clip, but I have seen with my own peepers a vid clip of Daryn Colledge making some pretty sassy comments about his contract and how he views the Packers' upcomming decision to keep or release him.. It wasn't that long after the end of the season, and I remember distinctly thinking "F* that guy- who does he think he is?!" He came across as though he's an all-pro at the top of his game, guffawed into the camera at the concept of perhaps not being extended/resigned, and in short gave the impression that Green Bay should be so lucky as to retain his services, and if they don't, he doesn't give a rat's ass. For me, it made it very easy to dislike him at that moment. All the rest of this stuff that has followed just reinforced that feeling.

2) Both of your attitudes about giving up on professional football should a lock out occur baffles me. It's PROFESSIONAL sports, so we already know it's all about the money, regardless if it's on public display or not. Every time a player's agent negotiates a deal with a team, it's about money. When you say that people shouldn't harp on Colledge because it's business not personal, it's obviuosly about the money. Those are both situations in which the players/management are making decisions based on the finances, not the game itself. What is different about a lock-out? It's just business, it's just business that affects your viewing enjoyment to a higher level than your accustomed. If you truly have a philosophical issue about the purity of sports competition being tainted by money and business, both of you need to stop watching all professional sports right now and start a Badgers blog... Although Collegiate sports are tainted too.

Watching *Professional* SPorts is the same as buying a movie ticket. It's all about the sale. And you all know that.

PackersRS's picture

I think it was a radio talk, where he said he wouldn't mind playing for another team, and that other teams fans should look out, because he might be going to their cities soon...

Oppy's picture

PackersRS, what I'm talking about was LONG, LONG (Well, relatively speaking) before Colledge's radio appearance (in Iowa, Maybe?) a few weeks ago. It was a video clip, it was shortly after the end of the season. It wasn't him being cute, as he was attempting to be when he told people "I might be coming to a team near you". I'm fully aware of that whole episode, and It is an entirely different occurrence.

packeraaron's picture

Oppy - "*Professional* SPorts is the same as buying a movie ticket." - exactly. And I just won't choose to buy a ticket. Pretty simple.

Oppy's picture

Aaron, yeah, I understand that you won't be buying.. All I'm saying is I don't understand how the act of a lock-out in the future will push you guys over the top. You already know it's all about the money, you already know it's millionaires and billionaires squabbling over dollars and cents..It's just business, just like Daryn Colledge not going into OTA's and such to prove a point, or like any true player hold out, etc and so forth. I don't see how a player lock out (Or, a players strike, as Mark Chumura says every player he talked to at fan fest said was going to happen in 2011) would soil the sport for you any more than these other things that you are already aware of.

It would be one thing if you were blissfully ignorant of the fact that the pro game is a business- but you're not. It sounds like what you're saying is you love to watch football so much, that missing a year of it would make you so mad you'll never watch it again... Which sounds an awful lot like biting off your nose to spite your face.

Cuphound's picture

Hmmm... I dunno Aaron. It's rather hard for me to believe that you can shed being a life-long Packers fan like a snake's skin. Harder still to believe that you'd do it on the principles of a union man who doesn't identify with millionaires. Don't you work in PR?

As Robert Bolt once said, "That idea is rather like the life lines they have on the embankment: comforting but you don't expect to have to use them." You have an awful lot of your personality invested in being a Packers fan. I'll watch this one for sure. For what its worth, I totally hope you fold. Your commentary makes being a Packers fan more fun and I'd miss you.

nerdmann's picture

1: The most improved player will be BRAD JONES. Offseason in the weight room. Year one to year two.
2: Second most improved player: Jarius Wynn. Offseason in the weight room.
3: Third most improved player: Pat Lee. He was stashed last year. This year is make or break for him. We know what we have in Will Blackmon.
4: Bell should also improve, imo.
5: Don't count Harrell out, either.
6: What's wrong with Jones and Nelson? Jones had the dropsies at time this year, but he's historically had great hands. Two years ago he fumbled a time or two. Dude's got huge upside though. Both of these guys would make huge strides with playing time.
7: Oh yeah, what about Giacomini? He could make a huge stride. Maybe they'll throw him in at LT! How long are his arms?
8: Underwood could make significant strides too. And don't forget Quinn Johnson.

FITZCORE1252's picture

I almost thought that was a serious post, until I got to #7.

Oppy's picture

Giacomini is most likely NOT a Left tackle, I agree.
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The thing about all the questions surrounding why he's been on the roster this long without being active or playing in any games is pretty simple.

This kid was a TE in college most of his career. I could be wrong, but I think I read that he played RT for less than a full season to fill in for an injured starter. He was impressive enough based on just his raw physical skills that teams were intrigued with what he could develop into with coaching and time- a real project.

Well, he's had his two years, maybe he's actually ready to step up and play. Remember, Kampman said that by mid-year of Giacommini's rookie year he was vastly improving and was giving him a bit of a challenge in drills. Then the kid had the injury, and I think it showed he wasn't 100% last year during training camp- he looked like he had lead feet.

I'm not saying the kid is going to be all that, but he's coming in this year healthy and with two full years of coaching at the OT position. I'm willing to see what he can do before I jump on the "What the hell is he still with the team" wagon.

FITZCORE1252's picture

O.K.

nerdmann's picture

LOL, I ain't saying MARK IT DOWN or anything.

Brady Augustine's picture

I think Giacommini deserves a chance (last chance perhaps) to prove himself too. I think his feet are actually good and agree that if he was 100% he could improve quite a bit and be serviceable. Sure would like to see more of these guys stay healthy and get a chance to develop. Also, do you think there should be any criticism of the coaching of these young guys?

packeraaron's picture

I go back and forth on that last part Brady. I think Campen has been dealt some serious stiffs up until the last couple of years. The guys who HAVE done well ie Sitton, Lang - were pretty talented when they arrived. Now, have guys like Barbre and Giacommini not developed because they haven't been coached properly or because they just aren't very good? I don't think even the Packers know the answer to that one (though I suspect we've seen the last of Barbre) - I hope you're right on Breno, but I can't say I agree. He's just so stiff and slow off the ball. Here's hoping...

Oppy's picture

I'd love to agree with the Brad Jones thing- it's been the popular theory about him since last year's training camp to say he just needs a year to fill out because he's a tad bit undersized.. But did you see the pictures of him modeling the throwback uni's at Fan Fest?

He certainly hasn't spent any time bulking up so far. I know, I know, it's the off-season, and the Pack is just getting into the voluntary portion of the off-season, and the training and conditioning programs. That being said, If the whole world is telling you to gain some size and strength, I'd like to think the kid would have taken the initiative to start hitting the weights the very next week after his season ended.

I do think he'll be improved, but I personally feel that he already over-performed last season.. So I'm looking for a guy like Raji who under-performed to have a bigger opportunity to flip the switch this season.

nerdmann's picture

9: Crosby will bounce back too. Although I'd still like to see him improve in game winning situations.

hyperRevue's picture

Now that is optimism.

FITZCORE1252's picture

"What’s his biggest crime again? Wanting to stay put at one position? Wanting some public support from his coaches? Wishing he got a better offer from the Pack?"

That's a whole lot of wanting and wishing for a guy making 7 figures. Maybe Coach should bring him in some fresh baked cookies each morning too? We wouldn't want our li'l Darryn to get a tummy ache.

How about he just does what he's told and goes where he's needed... WITH A SMILE ON HIS FACE. My duties change from day to day at work, BUT, do I question it? NO. Do I need my bosses to make everyone aware that there has been a change to my duties? NO.

Darryn College is an EMPLOYEE of the Green Bay Packers. He WILL go where he is needed. He WON'T get a pass because he's asked to be a "TEAM PLAYER" and fill in when needed. And he can "wish" he got a better offer all he wants, maybe if he just showed up with his lunch-pale everyday, he might be a bit more valuable to the franchise.

GBP 4 LIFE

cow42's picture

how is this situation different than kampman's? why do i get crushed anytime i suggest kampy shoulda stopped pouting and done what he was told to do?

FITZCORE1252's picture

I thought 74 handled the situation with the media last year (not talking to them that is)very poorly.

I do however "UNDERSTAND" his frustration. He was very productive at DE for many years. And, unfortunately for him, he was asked to switch to OLB during a contract year . I can at least wrap my head around that and "UNDERSTAND" where the guy was coming from (I'd be pissed too).

What I can't "UNDERSTAND", is how (after his below average play "last season"... 2008's looong gone) Darryn College thinks he has ANY right to bitch, or even bat an eye at a 2nd round tender. And to not participate in team activities as if he's hurting the team, just proves to me the guy is a total Douche-Bag that thinks he's better/more valuable than he is.

Darryn College,

Be careful what you wish for... you'd better hope Spitzy has another setback. 'Cause if you couple your garbage play from last year with your garbage attitude as of now, you and that terribly un-talented wife of yours will be headed to the CFL sooner than you can scream... "Please, Mr. Thompson, NOOOOOOOOOOOO..."

GBP 4 LIFE

(Yep, brought his wife into it, she sucks too.)

retiredgrampa's picture

Great blog, guys...thanks for taking the time to do it for us. I, for one, need a Packer transfusion at LEAST once a week. Whether I always agree or not is not important. Blogs like this shorten the wait for the draft and the camps.

PackersRS's picture

About what Colledge did wrong:

Wanting to stay put at one position: Less than 9% of his reps where out of the LG (some poster that I don't remember at CHTV mentioned the stat).

Wanting some public support from his coaches: How bout being called "the best lineman of the team" after the 08 season?

Wishing he got better offer from the Pack: He got a frikin 2nd rounder. His play simply doesn't deserve anything better.
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And how about publicly saying that he wouldn't mind playing for another team and mentioning with an angered tone that he might be going somewhere else soon???

Pizzadoc's picture

I, for one, have been desperate for any Packers news, so am thankful for this little diversion. It gave me something to read while waiting for the draft and TT's multiple huge free agent signings.

coloradopackerfan's picture

Cool idea for blog post. If B Jones and Finley make jumps we will be awesome!!!

PackersRS's picture

Yeah, Aaron. I think it could be a permanent thing, from time to time, monthly, annually, whaterev, between you two.

OR, between you and some other blogger, or some journalist...

(I'm gonna propose the same thing over at packerslounge...)

Dilligaff's picture

I feel the same way as Aaron about the potential strike in 2011 as I do about the current state of our O-line.

If we do nothing in free agency/trade/draft to improve O-line, it will be hard to finish watching the rest of the season when we start out of the gates 2-4, giving up an average of 5 sacks a game.

If A. Green legs are not good enough and has durability issues, Clifton is in the same boat and O-line will be the one glaring weakness that will hold Packers back .

Ron LC's picture

The only thing Colledge has done wrong is to assume his talent level is higher than it really is. He is a below average LG. Before one becomes vocal, one should be able to back it up. He's had 4 full years to make a statement - Nothing but crickets.
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I believe someone on this blog or maybe over at Jersey Al's looked up some very interesting stats on Colledge. I hope this is accurate, but it is in the ball park. Colledge had 43 sarts in his 4 years. 38 at LG and 5 at other positions. If that is near accurate, so much for the consistency arguement.
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The Oline needs help either through the draft or FA, or both. Clifton and Tauscher are great to start the season, but who will bet that they both play 16 games? Wells played well last year and showed no signs of his back injury holding him back. Let's hope for the best this year. The backups beyond Lang have never impressed to the point they would be viewed as adequate at the positions they play.
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Spitz also has played 4 full years and has not shown a breakthrough. He failed in his experiment at C. At G he was below average then injured and dropped to IR.

Oppy's picture

I have to disagree about Jason Spitz, I think he has looked more than adequate at Guard, and while I do think Scott Wells performed better at C than Spitz did last season, I chalk that up to the fact Wells is a veteran center who has played the position for a couple of years, and Spitz was a guy who played @ Guard his entire life until last year. Making all the calls and adjustments at the line would probably take some time to become masterful at.

FITZCORE1252's picture

Oppy,

I concur regarding Spitz. He looks to be a solid LG from what I have seen (not "THERE" just yet, but I think he can get "THERE" soon). I'm really pulling for him to set DC's whiny ass on the bench (or a plane out of GB).

GBP 4 LIFE

FITZCORE1252's picture

Interesting,

At CHTV it's "Tallitsch Vs. Nagler"

At the Lounge it's "Nagler vs. Tallitsch"

Gamesmanship?

GBP 4 LIFE

Ron LC's picture

RS,

Sorry for kind of stepping on your comment. I remembered the same stat you did. I left my comment on hold while I watched the God Foather, again for the 101st time. I clicked on submitt before checking the comments made while I was away.
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I was rag'n on the Oline last year at this time and I still see the same faces. bad backs and bad knees that were there last year. With the exception of Lang, that is. He will be good someday soon.
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Depth is the problem on the line.

Gilligan's picture

Exactly, same O-line, just one year older. Lang is about the only area where improvement will come from. Tauscher may maintain his performance, Clifton already was showing signs of declining last year.

PackersRS's picture

Didn't see the said "stepping in".

I didn't remember the exatc numbers. I remember calculating and comming up with a 8.something% of his snaps outside of the LG.

I don't agree with you on the depth issue. I think with Lang and a surprising EDS, we could do fine.

I do worry about 2011. By then Lang will be ready to start at RT. But who'll be at LT?? We'll really throw in a rookie in there???

FITZCORE1252's picture

RS,

Hopefully we draft our LT for 2011 next month. Maybe he sits all year, maybe he gets some playing time. Either way, I think it would be highly beneficial for the kid to get a chance to see how to go about his buisiness by watching Chad up close for a season (or 2).

GBP 4 LIFE

Keith's picture

"If a bunch of multi billionaires and a whole lot of millionaires can’t get their shit together between now and September 2011, there will be no reason for me to care anymore."

I don't get this. This isn't even a reason. I watch football because I like the game... why do you watch it? Who cares about this peripheral crap? It doesn't concern us at all. If the NFL has a lock out, I'll just use my time differently. Perhaps I will enjoy whatever it is I will be doing to fill in for the NFL's absence so much that I'll forget about the NFL and keep doing this new activity. Otherwise, when the NFL comes back, I am watching the NFL because I like football. Your self-imposed protest would only be hurting yourself... the NFL won't even notice. (No offense, just stating facts.)

FITZCORE1252's picture

TRUE

GBP 4 LIFE

Ruppert's picture

Not even so much as a mention of Ezra Johnson in the DE discussion? Come on...

jerseypackfan's picture

Yeah whats up with that? Loved Ezra!!!

Andrew In Atlanta's picture

So the scenario developing in my head is that CHTV continues to grow at its current pace and by 2011 you have a nice gig with some ad revenue. And then you walk away if there's a lockout? I don't get it. You religiously argue the business side of football then make this arguement. I guess I admire your stance from a philosophical standpoint but from a business standpoint (CHTV business) I'm not sure where you're at with that one. Would you sell the blog? Does Corey get a new partner? Clearly you have thought about this and I'm curious how you think it plays out

Keith's picture

What Andrew said, except I can't get behind it from a philosophical standpoint either. The only way it makes any sense is if he discovers something that brings him even more enjoyment than football during football's absence. Otherwise, like I said above, he's only hurting himself with a self-imposed separation from football.

packeraaron's picture

Not everything in life has to make sense Keith. You're such a lawyer. ;)

Keith's picture

Haha, not yet sir. Not yet.

David's picture

Thanks for this March distraction. CB depth was our downfall in the playoffs. Any thoughts on whether or not Pat Lee can play?

Andrew In Atlanta's picture

That's it? Not everything in life makes sense? Seriously?

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"The Bears still suck!"
"A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall. "
"I firmly believe that any man’s finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle – victorious."