Comments on: Smoke, Fire, Eggs and Whathaveyou http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou Devoted To Fans of the Green Bay Packers. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: WoodyG http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16225 WoodyG Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:30:30 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16225 As William stated: "Much Ado About Nothing" As William stated:
“Much Ado About Nothing”

]]> By: Oppy http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16220 Oppy Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:43:35 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16220 All it would take to drastically change the tone of the supposed comment from benign to inappropriate would be adding in a few words at the end of it.. like, "For a change" or "unlike last time". Example: . "Hey, Coach, let's get the boys ready to kick some ass this weekend...FOR A CHANGE/UNLIKE LAST TIME". . I have to agree with a few other posters- as a person who has some experience in hiring/firing employees in the past, as well as dealing with poorly behaving persons in the general public, it is alarming how often grown adults will lie through omission in an attempt to make themselves look "clean". People tend to refuse to take responsibility for their own comments anymore. It is also unlikely that a multi-million dollar corporation that deals with the ticky-tacky nature of professional sports athlete contracts would make a huge error in a basic HR firing scenario, but that said, who knows. All it would take to drastically change the tone of the supposed comment from benign to inappropriate would be adding in a few words at the end of it.. like, “For a change” or “unlike last time”. Example:
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“Hey, Coach, let’s get the boys ready to kick some ass this weekend…FOR A CHANGE/UNLIKE LAST TIME”.
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I have to agree with a few other posters- as a person who has some experience in hiring/firing employees in the past, as well as dealing with poorly behaving persons in the general public, it is alarming how often grown adults will lie through omission in an attempt to make themselves look “clean”. People tend to refuse to take responsibility for their own comments anymore. It is also unlikely that a multi-million dollar corporation that deals with the ticky-tacky nature of professional sports athlete contracts would make a huge error in a basic HR firing scenario, but that said, who knows.

]]> By: JerseyPackFan http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16202 JerseyPackFan Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:32:04 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16202 I just sent my resume to the Packers. I read there was a job opening for a janitor. I just sent my resume to the Packers. I read there was a job opening for a janitor.

]]> By: FITZCORE1252 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16193 FITZCORE1252 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:01:47 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16193 Like the guys on Lambeau live/Green and Gold today said... DUDE, STFU and do your job. Loved the analogy "If you were an assembly worker for GM and the CEO came walking through, would you say... hey how's that bailout going"??? NO, know your roll, blend in, and STFU! GBP 4 LIFE Like the guys on Lambeau live/Green and Gold today said… DUDE, STFU and do your job. Loved the analogy “If you were an assembly worker for GM and the CEO came walking through, would you say… hey how’s that bailout going”??? NO, know your roll, blend in, and STFU!

GBP 4 LIFE

]]> By: PACKERS http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16174 PACKERS Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:57:03 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16174 Says a lot about McCarthy. He's got a team that just lost to the Buccanners, he's calling plays that make know sense at all, he's making idiotic comments every time someone points a camera at his stupid face, and, in general, his football team is descending lower and lower every week, and this is how he spends his time? Going out of his way to have a maintenance guy fired for taking to him. From the way things look, this guys given more to our franchise than Mike and his foolishness ever have, by spending more than twenty years of his life at Lambeau because it was the team he loved. He is a true Packer fan, who has been treated very unfairly by the team he has dedicated himself to. If this makes sense to anyone, please explain it to me. I'm really at a loss here. Says a lot about McCarthy. He’s got a team that just lost to the Buccanners, he’s calling plays that make know sense at all, he’s making idiotic comments every time someone points a camera at his stupid face, and, in general, his football team is descending lower and lower every week, and this is how he spends his time? Going out of his way to have a maintenance guy fired for taking to him. From the way things look, this guys given more to our franchise than Mike and his foolishness ever have, by spending more than twenty years of his life at Lambeau because it was the team he loved. He is a true Packer fan, who has been treated very unfairly by the team he has dedicated himself to. If this makes sense to anyone, please explain it to me. I’m really at a loss here.

]]> By: foundinidaho http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16173 foundinidaho Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:23:49 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16173 McCarthy doesn't seem to have balls when it comes to this team, so maybe this is how he took out his frustration. McCarthy doesn’t seem to have balls when it comes to this team, so maybe this is how he took out his frustration.

]]> By: PackersRS http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16172 PackersRS Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:38:07 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16172 Just one thing: - If the guy insulted McCarthy, and it gets out that he insulted him and nobody did nothing. How would that appear? Would it seem like McCarthy doesn't have balls? - It's a no-win situation. You keep the guy, you sound like a pussy. You fire him, you sound like Hitler. - That, given that he insulted him. It's another issue if it was an innocent comment like "go team", which IMHO is ludicrous to think that was all that he said. Just one thing:
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If the guy insulted McCarthy, and it gets out that he insulted him and nobody did nothing. How would that appear? Would it seem like McCarthy doesn’t have balls?
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It’s a no-win situation. You keep the guy, you sound like a pussy. You fire him, you sound like Hitler.
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That, given that he insulted him. It’s another issue if it was an innocent comment like “go team”, which IMHO is ludicrous to think that was all that he said.

]]> By: Ruppert http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16171 Ruppert Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:32:08 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16171 I saw an ad for Vikings tickets on nfl.com. They're giving away $20 in free food coupons with 2 tickets to a home game. So basically, they can't even sell out by giving away free food!! I saw an ad for Vikings tickets on nfl.com. They’re giving away $20 in free food coupons with 2 tickets to a home game. So basically, they can’t even sell out by giving away free food!!

]]> By: PACKERS http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16170 PACKERS Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:08:41 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16170 By the way, why does an ad for Vikings tickets keep popping up on the site. Have you really attracted that many trolls, or is Minnesota trying to corner the Packer fan market for tickets ;) By the way, why does an ad for Vikings tickets keep popping up on the site. Have you really attracted that many trolls, or is Minnesota trying to corner the Packer fan market for tickets ;)

]]> By: greenbaypackerbob http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16169 greenbaypackerbob Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:53 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16169 Ruppert - all good points! Ruppert – all good points!

]]> By: greenbaypackerbob http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16168 greenbaypackerbob Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:46:23 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16168 Aaron, one last comment and I'm off this topic. * I'm glad to exchange ideas with anyone on this blog, both with whom I may agree or disagree without believing I have any privy insight into someone's 'intent' (how could I, I don't know anyone personally on the site). * But all should share in this rule equally and not have to take the abuse of those who would use foul language to try and get a point across because they don't like a particular person's stance on history or a topic under discussion. * e.g. call it the 'goose and gander' fairness law... * Anyhow, enough on that issue...see you after Sunday (e.g. and there's no secret Davinci Favre code in that statement, trust me!). Go Pack. * lol :>) Aaron, one last comment and I’m off this topic.
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I’m glad to exchange ideas with anyone on this blog, both with whom I may agree or disagree without believing I have any privy insight into someone’s ‘intent’ (how could I, I don’t know anyone personally on the site).
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But all should share in this rule equally and not have to take the abuse of those who would use foul language to try and get a point across because they don’t like a particular person’s stance on history or a topic under discussion.
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e.g. call it the ‘goose and gander’ fairness law…
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Anyhow, enough on that issue…see you after Sunday (e.g. and there’s no secret Davinci Favre code in that statement, trust me!). Go Pack.
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lol :>)

]]> By: Ruppert http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16167 Ruppert Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:25:21 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16167 Of course McCarthy got him fired. Whether he personally called for his firing or not, we'll never know. But the guy didn't get canned for what he said--he got canned for whom it said it to...McC. -------- And let's just say these firings happen all the time (even though they don't). It's STILL another black mark on this current Packers administration. Even if this type of firing is standard policy of the team or the league, I cannot believe somebody didn't step up and say "wait a minute....we're going to look like fools yet again if we fire this guy." But no one did, and here we are. Of course McCarthy got him fired. Whether he personally called for his firing or not, we’ll never know. But the guy didn’t get canned for what he said–he got canned for whom it said it to…McC.
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And let’s just say these firings happen all the time (even though they don’t). It’s STILL another black mark on this current Packers administration. Even if this type of firing is standard policy of the team or the league, I cannot believe somebody didn’t step up and say “wait a minute….we’re going to look like fools yet again if we fire this guy.” But no one did, and here we are.

]]> By: PACKERS http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16164 PACKERS Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:08:09 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16164 Okay, I'm not saying that that guy said what he said he didn't say (that's one confusing sentence ;) ), but if he did, why should he be fired. It doesn't sound like he meant anything bad about it, and that he wa just trying to motivate McCarthy, tell a joke, or both. This I'd just stupid. Hey McCarthy, you are an NFL coach, a job only thirty-two people in the whole world get to do. In my opinion, your not doing a very good job right now. Why do you need to take it out on an employee who, from the sound of it, has given more to our great franchise than you have. Sorry if I'm being overcritical and a jerk, but this doesn't sound very fair to me. Okay, I’m not saying that that guy said what he said he didn’t say (that’s one confusing sentence ;) ), but if he did, why should he be fired. It doesn’t sound like he meant anything bad about it, and that he wa just trying to motivate McCarthy, tell a joke, or both. This I’d just stupid.

Hey McCarthy, you are an NFL coach, a job only thirty-two people in the whole world get to do. In my opinion, your not doing a very good job right now. Why do you need to take it out on an employee who, from the sound of it, has given more to our great franchise than you have.

Sorry if I’m being overcritical and a jerk, but this doesn’t sound very fair to me.

]]> By: CSS http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16161 CSS Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:46:07 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16161 @ Aaron - I apologize to you and you alone for not respecting civil discourse on your blog and taking the 'troll' bait so to speak. It really is a shame that some posters come here with no intent of contributing to a conversation. I'll ignore the trolls moving forward, should have done so to begin with. @ Aaron – I apologize to you and you alone for not respecting civil discourse on your blog and taking the ‘troll’ bait so to speak. It really is a shame that some posters come here with no intent of contributing to a conversation. I’ll ignore the trolls moving forward, should have done so to begin with.

]]> By: greenbaypackerbob http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16160 greenbaypackerbob Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:39:01 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16160 touche, but jurors, would sure 'think' it. * I believe from the comments on this blog a lot of your posters are 'thinkers' too and why many would agree with the assesment! * In a civil suite 'evidence beyond a reasonable doubt' is not the standard all you need is sufficient evidence (51+%)--- (just ask OJ where his heisman went .. lol) * -- sorry to get edgy with CSS but his comments were personally directed at me and were offensive (please don't fire him) * lol touche, but jurors, would sure ‘think’ it.
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I believe from the comments on this blog a lot of your posters are ‘thinkers’ too and why many would agree with the assesment!
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In a civil suite ‘evidence beyond a reasonable doubt’ is not the standard all you need is sufficient evidence (51+%)— (just ask OJ where his heisman went .. lol)
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– sorry to get edgy with CSS but his comments were personally directed at me and were offensive (please don’t fire him)
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lol

]]> By: Aaron Nagler http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16158 Aaron Nagler Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:30 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16158 Technically, a jury wouldn't ask anything. It would be a lawyer. ;) Technically, a jury wouldn’t ask anything. It would be a lawyer. ;)

]]> By: greenbaypackerbob http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16157 greenbaypackerbob Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:26:28 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16157 MM admits that he exchanged comments with him which led to his dismissal. On the Packers.com he admits he 'asked what the guys name was"... a jury would ask, "why?" - if it meant "zero" to him as he goes on to say, then what was his interest in the name? And when asked if he would like to see "the man get his job back" he would not comment anymore. * I'm sure he did not do it personally but it was the result of his exchanges (my opinion of course) MM admits that he exchanged comments with him which led to his dismissal. On the Packers.com he admits he ‘asked what the guys name was”… a jury would ask, “why?” – if it meant “zero” to him as he goes on to say, then what was his interest in the name? And when asked if he would like to see “the man get his job back” he would not comment anymore.
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I’m sure he did not do it personally but it was the result of his exchanges (my opinion of course)

]]> By: Aaron Nagler http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16155 Aaron Nagler Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:08:27 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16155 greenbaypackerbob - how do you know McCarthy had him fired? In fact, how do you know McCarthy didn't ask for the guy's name so he could talk to him at a latter point? You don't and neither do I. MM said he was 'taken aback' when he read the story this morning. I believe him. greenbaypackerbob – how do you know McCarthy had him fired? In fact, how do you know McCarthy didn’t ask for the guy’s name so he could talk to him at a latter point? You don’t and neither do I. MM said he was ‘taken aback’ when he read the story this morning. I believe him.

]]> By: greenbaypackerbob http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16154 greenbaypackerbob Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:01:51 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16154 Folks No one on this blog is saying Wood was smart in what he did, but for MM to have him fired over it is crazy. * If MM wants to beat up on somebody, how bout the Vikings or Dallas, not some part time 22 yr. grounds worker. It looks desparate for a guy who is a coach of a professional football team. Folks

No one on this blog is saying Wood was smart in what he did, but for MM to have him fired over it is crazy.
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If MM wants to beat up on somebody, how bout the Vikings or Dallas, not some part time 22 yr. grounds worker. It looks desparate for a guy who is a coach of a professional football team.

]]> By: Aaron Nagler http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/smoke-fire-eggs-and-whathaveyou/comment-page-2#comment-16153 Aaron Nagler Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:57:01 +0000 http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/?p=4224#comment-16153 CSS - greenbaypackerbob - Done. No more personal back and forth, ok? CSS – greenbaypackerbob
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Done. No more personal back and forth, ok?

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