yesssss! was hoping he'd be the next extended

This will hopefully end up being a jordy nelso type deal where the packers lock him up long term and then he breaks out

I'm happy they're doing this.
Hopefully get him at a discount to what he would have made next offseason.

Sam Shields and BJ Raji just got more motivated.

Other than where they were drafted, how is Burnett any different than Raji?

Both guys who play well once in awhile but disappear for long stretches.

Judging by his play to this point, I think I would have preferred that the Packers had waited out the year... I don't think Burnett's going to improve so much that he's going to price himself off the team.

Hopefully this gamble pays off and the Packer's don't get locked into a contract that exceeds Burnett's actual contributions on the field.

I like it. IMO its also showing Shields where he could be sitting if he would have extended.

I like it the kid can play.

Burnett is underrated. He doesn't have quite the freakish measureables as collins but is a little bit more of a ball hawk and maybe a little more consistant reading the o. He is probowl bound this year so it would be wise to sign him now. It would also be wise not to sign raji or shields to long term deals. They both have a hard time staying motivated.

Neal is next and maybe last in line for an extension.

I'd like to see a sign and trade with shields while letting raji walk. Hopefully there's a good nose tackle class in next years draft or even free agency. I'd give pickett a 2 year extension before I'd give raji big money.

Zach just tweeted: "Spotrac predicts #Packers S Morgan Burnett will receive a four-year, $32.1M extension with $16.6M guaranteed"

4 years, $32 mil...that strikes me as awfully high.

Burnett's progress has been off schedule because of an ACL, having to move from strong to free safety, and playing with below average and inexperienced safety partners. His overall athletic ability is unquestioned because he started day one in the NFL on a very good defensive unit. It remains to be seen if he can get to Collin's level of play but Collin's was a late bloomer who was questioned for a couple years about not being able to make the big play in the secondary. The numbers discussed on the contract do seem high but he has so much leverage as the only proven starter in the group of safeties. Rajii has the same kind of leverage like Burnett because of his age, lots of starting time, and in a defensive line group that is below average.

I had to stop reading, too much to respond to.

First off I personally will never compare the guys as a first response when thinking of Burnett; as this article and many suggest. They were a tandum. A tandum that would have really come together had the great Nick Collins stayed healthy. It's not like they competed for a spot. Burnetts a good FS but he would have been a great SS with Collins behind him.

As far as how good Nick was without looking it up I distinctly remember Nick having a lot of 'Ahmad Carroll' problems. Either making young player mental errors like blowing a coverage or gambling due to his speed. Nick was one of my favorite players ever, but to my memory he had quite a few in game disappointments early on. Either rookie or sophmore. F the stats, most of us have watched every game intensively for years, anyone recall the same plays?

It's hard to believe most of what's posted here. No one supplies any facts or links. You remember things a certain way? So what. Most people can't remember the exact things in a game after only a few days. But many of you think you can remember from many years ago. I call that BS.

How about a little evidence? A few links to video and articles would help. It's just hard to believe without some kind of support.

How about you shove it. It not fault you lack long term memory. F your facts. Although I do understand statistical people as it is numerical evidence. However, poor play is barely recorded. So let me get this straight; you want me to pull data on bad decision making especially if its away from the ball. Go watch some old school game film bandwagon.

Apologies if I offended anyone else besides him.

What I consider interesting is that it is Burnett that's being discussed here rather than Raji. I had expected Raji to be the next one "up" but I'm glad it's Burnett instead.

If Raji is "only" a run stuffer, is it necessary to spend a high draft pick/lots of money on that? His pass rush has been very inconsistent, IMHO, and I also understand that sacks alone are not the only way to measure this (hurries, pressures, or even tying up blockers while another player makes the sack, etc)

I keep coming back to the same point: you either trust that Ted and the coaches know what they are doing in these matters (more often than not) or you don't.

Anybody can say "this is a bad move" and be right some of the time. Hell, TT will admit no GM gets it right every time. It's a projection, like the stock market or interest rates. Educated guessing, if you will, although coaches etc have more input and "control", rather than just blind luck.

Discussing this stuff is fun. Disagreeing and then immediately getting personal is getting a little old, once again, IMHO.

Its always a guessing game no matter what player it is, but I'm assuming TT sees Burnett as a long-term anchor at safety and is gambling that the economics of tying him up right now are a whole lot less than they will be in the future.

Only time will tell, but I'm optimistic.

Burnett
Shields
Raji

All will be Packers beyond their rookie contracts. The order means little except who pays for dinner.

All you did was point out a typo and then ramble. Moron.

I agree with the last two opinions and "expressing an opinion based on pretty much nothing," aka using my short term memory, I would assess Rajis last year as a solid, dirty job season. He ate up blockers and got good penetration. I'm sure someone has stats on it so feel free to check :)

Honestly if we get a solid pass rush from someone along with Clay then that would be enough to have us talking about how good Rahi is and put us in a 'must sign' situation. Agree?

Collins would've had ten picks a season if he had better hands. He dropped so many int's. Even when he was a pro-bowler he dropped tons of them. He was going to the hall of fame.

Losing a hall of famer and someone who was goign to be a pro-bowler (bishop)to injury is huge. Injuries have crippled the Pack the last two years.

Praying for a healthy season. So pumped!

It's usually only after a guy has left that you hear all the details about how focused and motivated a guy was. While a guy is still on the team, the coaches and GM are always very complimentary. Even as a guy is leaving, everything you hear is very positive. And, there is no reason not to be positive. I've finished projects where a co-worker or project manager was mostly incompetent, but all I said at the end was "thanks, this was a really good project". It meant nothing, but there was no reason to burn bridges. I loved Bishop, but it doesn't seem like the coaches and GM were ever as excited about him as I was. In that case an most others, the coaches were always positive, and deflected any issues to themselves, but in the end, they didn't show a lot of love to Desmond. I'd put Corey Williams in the same boat. They do the same with most of the other players, including Shields and Raji. Only at some point in the future will you hear things about the player from a coach or former teammate that lets you say "oh, that's why". More often, it's the player himself who says in an interview that they weren't very focused or professional early in their career. Lang and Dietrich-Smith are good examples of that. What the coaches say right now may or may not be true. Money talks. In this case it's saying that Burnett is a professional who has improved. He has upside that is worth a lot of money, and that he'll keep working hard even after he's paid.

I'll get excited when I see the numbers. $6mm/year is what I think he's worth. Less than that and I'll be ecstatic. More than that and I'll be pretty upset.