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Report: New York Giants Reach Out to QB Matt Flynn

With Eli Manning sidelined for much of the NFL's offseason program after undergoing ankle surgery, the New York Giants are in the market for a veteran quarterback.

According to Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News:

The first stop on their search may be with Josh Freeman and Matt Flynn, two well-travelled veteran quarterbacks who are currently the cream of what is a very thin free agent quarterback crop. Freeman, the former Bucs starting quarterback who was traded to the Vikings last year, may work out for the Giants early next week, a source confirmed, though nothing official has been set up yet. And the Daily News has learned the Giants have also reached out to Flynn and may schedule a workout with him as well.

Flynn could be drawn to New York by his former quarterbacks coach in Green Bay, new Giants offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo.

Previously this offseason, there were reports that the Giants may be interested in other Packers that reached free agency like tight ends Jermichael Finley and Andrew Quarless and offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith.

The Packers would seem to still have interest in Flynn but likely don't want to pay much more than a minimal contract for a quarterback with precious few other options.

What Flynn will have to decide is whether he wants the opportunity to compete for the Packers No. 2 job with Scott Tolzien and any other rookies the Packers might bring in, or head out to New York where he'd be going up againt Ryan Nassib in Curtis Painter to back up Manning.

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L's picture

He already knows his best spot is here, but it's the guaranteed money that'll make the decision for him.

Thedon's picture

No player plays just for the love of the game. They have a finite time to make money as a professional and will seek to maximize their earnings. Matt Flynn will do whatever will make him the most money.

4thand1's picture

When he gets cut by the Giants he can come back to GB for the minimum.

MarkinMadison's picture

You're joking, right? No? Then I have to call "b.s." on that one. Apparently you don't remember the famous talk that Holmgren had with Farve, telling him to settle down and that his contract would come soon. And that last year in Minnesota wasn't about money? Please. Don't make the mistake of thinking that he didn't care about money just because he wore an old hat and did commercials for blue jeans. There are plenty of people in this world who have more money than you would ever guess because flashing it is not their style. It doesn't make them Mother Teresa.

Clay Zombo's picture

Mr. Birney, what you've just wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read that. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Thedon's picture

7/10 as a troll. You had me at first, but after this post it's obvious you're trolling.

calabasa's picture

Sounds like the Giants are trying to get us to spend more money this offseason!

JimTaylor31's picture

I doubt if Flynn has a "guarenteed 5 year job" here or anywhere else. Bottom line is that he is only guarenteed a job until somebody better comes along. That is especially true for a backup QB. Once a younger QB with a higher ceiling comes along Flynn is on the street.

TommyG's picture

You are correct, and I believe this is what has happened in Green Bay with Tolzien coming in.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

I personally wouldn't mind if Flynn signed somewhere else. I'd much rather keep Tolzein. If their both here, I have No Doubt Tolzein will win the job. I can't wait for the off season. LVT

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

I know Wolf thought Favre was a Great QB. I never said he didn't, of course he did. My point is, that Wolf (lucked out) on Favre's longevity, & becoming the Face of The Franchise. I'm sure he hoped that Favre would become that, but I don't believe he ever saw it. The longer Favre played, the better of a GM Wolf became. I don't know what QB'S went before BF, but he didn't go as high as he did, because he wasn't good. I think BF made Ron Wolf, not the other way around. He obviously deserves a Great deal of Credit for making that trade. I just don't believe he had a Crystal Ball to see the Future. You have to factor in the fact, that GB had a Perfectly Capable QB in Don Majakowski. Who by the way, I feel deserves a lot more credit than he is given. Majakowski made that trade for BF a lot easier to make at the time. Ty Dentmer also, if I'm not mistaken. JMO

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

That's pretty much what I was trying to say. The only thing I would add is, most New Coach's want their own QB. There really was nothing wrong with GB having Don Majakowski as their QB. In my opinion he was better than most. Holmgren was probably pushing for his own QB. I don't believe it was because Majakowski wasn't good enough. I'm not a fan of Ron Wolf or Mike Holmgren. When you mention Bart Star, Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers, the next name ought to be Don Majakowski as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I've still got a small ax to grind. In the scheme of things, it's all a matter of opinion, & really doesn't mean a hell of a lot.

4thand1's picture

Its the offseason. To bad we didn't have a Suh to talk about. The new Lolions HC is already disappointed with him.

zac5's picture

If Flynn does sign with the Giants, GB will be inline for another comp pick next season. Has that ever happened before?

Nick Perry's picture

This one irks me a bit, after last year you'd think the Packers would quit playing around with the back-up QB spot. Tolzien threw a few nice passes between the 20 yard lines last year, but was generally pretty bad. You may as well call the Philly game a start considering Wallace was hurt on the Packers 1st series (a 3 and out) so he was 0-2 and needed Flynn to bail him out against the Vikings. Flynn may have a noodle for a arm, but he looked pretty damn good in relief of Tolzien against the Vikings. He won in Dallas and against Atlanta, and got SCREWED against Pittsburgh by the refs. If the Packers want to draft someone fine, but quit screwing around and sign Flynn.

Mike McCarthy has said he wants Flynn back. Every game he started he's given the Packers a chance to win, except the Lions game last year which was a group effort of sucking.

Jordan's picture

I think you have to factor in Tolzien was new and Flynn was a veteran in the offense. Add in the fact that Vikings had 31st ranked D, Dallas had 32nd ranked D, Atlanta had 27th ranked D......and Flynn is a veteran turnover machine. Tolzien has more upside than Flynn. I'd be fine if they didn't sign Flynn and went with Tolzien as backup.

Nick Perry's picture

7 of 17 41.18% and 98 yards 0 TD 0 Int (For once)....... That was Tolziens stat line against the Vikings before being replaced by Flynn. Flynn was 21 or 36 for 218 and a TD. If Tolzien was only able to put up numbers like that against the 31st ranked defense, which is what you said the Vikings were ranked, what does say for Tolzien?. I know everybody has a bad day but except for a few passes here and there, I saw nothing from Tolzien that would suggest if Rodgers went down for say 4 weeks the Packers could go 2-2 which is what you'd want in the very least from a backup QB. Hey maybe the guy comes through this off season and after a off season with his head in the playbook and working out, Tolzien becomes the new Matt Hasselback of the preseason. I just have never been impressed with Tolzien and last year reminded me why again.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Jordan, I agree with you here on Scott Tolzein. There's no question, he had a Terrible game against the Vikings. Things did not go his way. In one game he through for more than 300 yards & lost. He played well & like any new QB, was the victim of a few mistakes, & some bad breaks. With all the problems we had at left tackle last year, I'm not surprised & ready to give up on Scott yet. I believe he'll win the job this year. I think he felt a lot of pressure, & was handling it well, when the wheels started to come off. Had he won that 1st game, I don't think Flynn would have seen the field. Tolzein has more mobility, & a stronger arm than Flynn, + he is younger. I'll be surprised if GB lets him go.

Nick Perry's picture

Tom in the game he threw for 339 yards I believe it was he threw 0 TD's and 3 Interceptions. In a previous comment to Jordan I acknowledged he had some nice throws between the 20's. Most of what Tolzien faced was 8 man fronts to stop Lacy, he SHOULD throw for 300 yards.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Nick, I can't argue with what you've said. I've said a number of times, that Tolzein is a confidence type of QB, only the Great ones handle adversity well. Maybe that's not a good rap for him, but I saw that at WI.
When he's on, he's Great. Yes, he threw some int's that killed his good play. Flynn beat ATL, DALLAS, & I don't remember who. He had everything his way. He didn't have anyone breathing down his neck. Yes, Scott had a chance, & rightly so was benched. He thrilled us too many times at WI, to give up on him yet. I like both QB's, but I Honestly think Tolzein when both are on, is the better of the 2. JMO

Nick Perry's picture

Well it's looking more and more that either Tolzien will be the number 2 guy or Ted T is just one cool customer who has a figure in his head, has offered it to Flynn. Kinda a take it or leave it. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong gain, maybe Tolzien CAN be a good back-up. I guess we'll see in a while but hopefully, the backup doesn't see the field this season unless it's mop up time.

JimTaylor31's picture

I would agree with that. At this point, with what we have seen, I'd rather go into camp with Flynn than Tolzien as the BU to Rodgers. I haven't seen anything from Tolzien that would lead me to believe he will develop into anything better than a BU anyway. May as well stick with the BU that has already developed.

Jordan's picture

Flynn has developed in to a turnover machine with a weaker arm than ever....and no mobility.

JimTaylor31's picture

And Tolzien showed what exactly???? At least Flynn can manage the game and we did win a couple with him. Tolzien just sorta sucked.

Jordan's picture

Yeah, I have a higher standard for Flynn since he should know the offense like the back of his hand.....

After reading all the posts, I think everyone's in agreement that the Packers would be better off with a backup that's better than both Tolzien and Flynn.

Tolzien throwing picks and struggling in red zone doesn't bother me as much as Flynn making his dumb turnovers. Matt Flynn showed why he is a career backup IMO. Flynns career may be over. I didn't have a problem with flynn's boneheaded mistakes in 2010 vs patriots. But in 2013 season, I had a problem with it.

JimTaylor31's picture

Tom. Look at the facts. We are a 0.500 team with Flynn and a 0.000 team with Tolzien. I don't see that changing much. At best Tolzien may develop into a sevicable backup which is about as far as his talent will take him. Flynn is a fairly good backup now. Unless Tolzien makes a huge leap this off season I don't see the Packers saving a roster spot for him. Let him and Flynn compete in TC and the better man win. Right now that would probably be Flynn.

4thand1's picture

Stroh, the facts don't tell all. S T was thrown into the fire with not having a chance to learn the Packers system. Flynn was there for 3 years and cut by 3 teams, including the lowly Raiders and Bills. IMO Tolzein has more upside unless Flynn's suspect arm gets better. With a full camp and OTAs Tolzien should improve a lot. The record breaking Lions game means nothing to me, the game on turkey day last year said a lot.

4thand1's picture

I was at the Lion game when Flynn lit em up. I've never seen a worse secondary ever. Packer receivers were running by em all day. Nothing on the line???? Detroit had the division gift rapped and lost 5 out of the last 6. They had plenty to play for. -1 for you there.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, I respect your opinion on Scott Tozein, but at this point I disagree with it. When you said Tolzein could never be the leader Flynn is, that's just your opinion. You haven't given the guy a fair chance. Flynn had every advantage there was last year. Flynn was able to sit back & watch a patched up offense, & a terrible defense lose a couple of games. He had the experience of being in control of that huddle before. Of course he looked like a better leader. Scott had all the pressure on him, & was handling it pretty well, if he could have gotten a little help from his OL &
his Defense, especially up the middle. AR played a Decent game when he came in against Dallas, but he had a lot of practice time with the players. It certainly hurt Scott for not being one of the group yet. Personally, I am not sure Flynn will be here this summer, & if he is, I think Tolzein, once he gets in with the rest of the team, & gets some of the pressure off, will beat out Flynn for the job. Let's wait and see what happens in the preseason, before you go writing off Scott Tolzein. He's a better QB than you are giving him credit for. I like both QB's. I've seen enough QB'S in my day. If I had my choice, I'd keep Tolzein over Flynn. He's capable of being just as much of a leader as Flynn. Let's wait and see how it plays out. You haven't given him a fair chance to compete for the job. Remember, AR didn't fair too well at the helm his 1st year, & that was with how many years in the system?? Nothing wrong with having an opinion, but Flynn isn't here yet. LVT

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, For what it's worth, AR made the statement last year to Scott Tolzein, that he thought GB would be a Good Fit for him. That might carry some weight that we don't know about?? LVT

JimTaylor31's picture

"I see the same traits in Tolzien as I do in Troy Aikmen". Hahahaha!! Surely you don't mean Troy Aikmen the football player?

MarkinMadison's picture

Tolzien had no off-season in the system. He basically was thrown into the fire after, what, a couple of weeks of practice as the 3rd/2nd string QB. Not good when you are talking about an NFL offense that runs on timing. Tolzien has a good arm. I'm not saying the Packers should keep him, pass on Flynn or draft a QB in the fourth round. All I'm saying is you cannot judge much about Tolzien based on what happened last fall, other than the fact that he showed he has the arm strength to make the throws he needs to make in this system.

Jordan's picture

Exactly.

HankScorpio's picture

I pretty much agree with you Mark. Once the Packers brought in 2 new backups after TC, the die was cast that if Rodgers went down, the replacement QB was going to be unprepared and look lousy. Whether that was Seneca Wallace or Scott Tolzein. And Tolzein did look lousy. He was a turnover machine and QBs simply MUST be careful with the ball. Above all else.

I'm very curious to see what Tolzein can do with last year + this offseason under his belt. I don't believe we've seen all he can be. He does have a better arm than Flynn, no doubt. A better understanding of the system could work wonders for him.

Having said that, I'd still love to see Flynn brought back @ or near the vet minimum. If not Flynn, then another veteran. And a day 3 draft choice. Keep the 2 best behind Rodgers. The Packers got spoiled by 20 years where they needed a grand total of 1 start from their backup QB. Last year showed how amazing that streak was, and how important it is to remain vigilant about the backup position behind Ironman starting QBs like Favre and Rodgers had been.

Clay Zombo's picture

I don't about all of you but I think Josh Freeman could make one hell of a reclaimation project for this team. I have seen him play some pretty damn good football in this league so I know he has the ability, they just need to rebuild the guys confidence..

If he looks good in his appearances for GB there could be a draft pick to be gained from him either through trade or they could get a comp pick for him if he leaves after 1 yr as a UFA.

Freeman still has the potential to be a starter in this league, Flynn not so much. I would still re-sign Flynn because he has value to GB with his knowledge of the system but if he signs elsewhere, Freeman would be my first call right after the news breaks of Flynn signing.

4thand1's picture

Another personal war?

4thand1's picture

AW wtf, it makes it interesting, lol. Were spoiled fans. Losing sucks and we all want more. These MFing injuries can't keep happening and if the Pack stays healthy, look out.

Nick Perry's picture

4thand1, Someone actually gave you a dislike on that comment. It must be a terrible thing to be a Bears, Lions, or Vikings fan when your Saturdays are spent on a Packers website dishing out dislikes because their teams suck and they know already by seasons end it will be the Green Bay Packers winning the NFC North....AGAIN!!!

4thand1's picture

Good morning you vile , nasty , homophobic, posting maniacs. What's the hot button pushing topic of the day? How many days till the draft? Off season blues after a long winter have got a lot of peoples panties in a bunch. Well maybe I'll watch the Masters this afternoon and then????

Jordan's picture

Here's a look at Flynn's 2013 stats:

He's a turnover machine. He's a veteran. A veteran INT throwing......fumbling machine......with a soggy noodle arm and zero mobility.

The only good thing I can say about Flynn is he's not afraid to stand in the pocket....he doesn't get spooked. But he really doesn't have any choice but to stand in the pocket because he has no mobility.

http://www.nfl.com/player/mattflynn/367/gamelogs

Ideally, the packers will find somebody better than Tolzien and Flynn.

4thand1's picture

All's quiet on the chtv front. C'mon guys give us something juicy to rip on. Where is that pessimistic arloser when you need him? I think he's here under a new handle.

4thand1's picture

The 49ers seem to be imploding. Aldon Smith got arrested again. Said he had a bomb while at the LAX airport. Bowman got a nasty injury, Kaepernick has some questions and Justin Smith isn't getting any younger.

4thand1's picture

Water cooler sports does it. People talk anything and everything. Pertains to the NFCN & NFCS. Have fun in there. Try it you'll like it. The NFCW is our biggest rival. Seems they have trouble handling success. Seachickens with adderall and 9ers with the law.

HankScorpio's picture

On the SF implosion front: Don't forgot that nobody in SF can seem to stand Jim Harbaugh.

Point Packer's picture

Birney the baker = Longshanks

Hopefully the good folks at CHTV will ban him (again).

Glad this is my first post in the new format. I'm Point Packer dammit..

Point Packer

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