Ranking the Packers Draft Class of 2020 After Half a Season

The Packers are just past the halfway mark of the 2020 season and that gives us the opportunity to take a first look at the progress of GM Brian Gutekunst’s draft class of 2020. Obviously, a full grade on a draft class will take a minimum of three seasons.

NFL rookies don’t usually contribute a lot in their first season but this year’s class had more obstacles than most. There were no rookie camps, OTAs or preseason games. Training camp was shorter than usual and had less practices with contact which gave rookies fewer reps and less of an opportunity to make an impression on the coaching staff.

As you can imagine, the bulk of this year’s class has not seen the field very much yet. Still, here is a look at the contributions and potential of this year’s rookie class. Grades are based on a combination of expectations and performance.

Round 1: QB Jordan Love

Love has yet to see the field in 2020. In fact, he has been inactive for all nine games the Packers have played so far.

None of this is a surprise, however. When Love was drafted, scouts knew he had all the physical talent necessary to develop into a franchise quarterback, but he would need time to get there.

The only way Love was going to see the field this season would be due to injuries to Aaron Rodgers or Tim Boyle or if he was active for a game that was a blowout either for or against the Packers.

The key for Love right now is practicing well, learning the playbook and gaining the confidence of his teammates and coaches.

The coaching staff would probably want to see him take the field once before the season is over, but that the opportunity may not present itself.

Grade: Incomplete

Round 2: RB A.J. Dillon

Dillon is presently third on the depth chart at running back behind Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams.

The second-round pick has missed some time after being placed on the Covid-19 reserve list and has been active for seven of the team’s first nine games. He has carried the ball 23 times for 97 yards, an average of 4.2-yards per carry. He also has one catch for 16 yards.

The former Boston College star has shown promise as a runner because of his unique combination of size and speed, but still needs to work on his pass blocking and route running before earning the trust of Matt LaFleur and the coaching staff.

There is no doubt Dillon has the potential to be a bruising number one back, but he must improve the non-running aspects of his game.

His role this year is as expected, but with both Jones and Jamaal Williams scheduled to be unrestricted free agents this coming offseason, look for Dillon to assume a bigger role in 2021.

Grade: C+

Round 3: TE Josiah Deguara

Head coach Matt LaFleur was extremely excited about Deguara after the draft because he felt he’d be a great fit in his offensive system. Deguara could play tight end, H-back or fullback and his versatility gave the coaching staff the ability to run different plays out of identical formations, something LaFleur uses to give his offense an edge at the start of a play.

Deguara was injured after playing in two games this season. He caught one pass for 12 yards and proved himself a willing blocker.

No doubt Deguara showed potential and versatility, but we won’t be able to see what he can do until next season. Look for the former University of Cincinnati star to carve out a bigger role in 2021.

Grade: Incomplete

Round 5: LB Kamal Martin

Martin was considered the team’s best ILB during training camp but got hurt before the start of the season and was placed on IR before the season opener.

The Packers reactivated the former University of Minnesota star in time for the Texans game and he had a strong debut, making six tackles including one for loss in his first NFL game. He missed the 49ers game after being placed on the Covid-19 reserve list because he was a close contact with a player who tested positive, but returned for the Jaguars game although he only saw 13 defensive snaps after Christian Kirksey returned to the lineup.

Thus far, Martin has nine total tackles in three games including one tackle for loss.

Martin has showed flashes of why the coaching staff was so high on him in training camp. He has good size and hits hard but still makes his share of rookie mistakes. Martin has shown that he has the potential to become a solid contributor at inside linebacker sooner rather than later.

Grade: Incomplete

Round 6: G Jon Runyan

Runyan was moved from his college position of tackle to guard in the NFL. He has made the transition quite seamlessly.

The former Michigan star has played in all nine games this season, mostly on special teams. In three games, Runyan was pressed into service on offense due to injuries along the offensive line. Each time he has acquitted himself well. Runyan has never looked overmatched or out of place. His run blocking has been stronger than his pass blocking, but overall, he’s played well for a rookie.

Look for Runyan to continue to play the same role for the rest of this season and for him to compete for a starting job along the offensive line next season.

Grade: B-

Round 6: C Jake Hanson

Hanson has spent the entire season on the practice squad injured list. He has not played at all this season and cannot practice with the team until he’s healthy.

If Corey Linsley departs via free agency, the Packers may move Lucas Patrick to center and have he and Hanson battle for that position.

Grade: Incomplete

Round 6: OT Simon Stepaniak

Stepaniak has spent the season on the reserve/non-football injury list and has yet to play a down. The Indiana alum should battle for a backup position along the offensive line next season if he’s healthy.

Grade: Incomplete

Round 7: S Vernon Scott

Scott showed a nose for the ball in college and that caused the Packers to select him in the seventh round. He has played in eight of the team’s first nine games thus far this season, mostly contributing on special teams where he’s done a good job on coverage teams.

He’s appeared on 37 plays on defense and has been credited with six total tackles including one sack. Scott was confused on his assignments on some plays on defense and has made a few rookie mistakes but he has shown promise in his limited snaps.

Grade: C+

Round 7: Edge Jonathan Garvin

Garvin has played in eight games thus far and has been in on five total tackles. Most of his action has been on special teams although he has seen 85 total snaps on defense.

Garvin wasn’t active for the Jaguars game but has played in every other game this season.

He has yet to record a sack, hurry or quarterback pressure.

Grade: C+

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Point-Packer's picture

November 19, 2020 at 12:17 pm

Hell of a draft for a talented team with a HOF QB that is a few glaring holes (defensive line, ILB, WR) away from winning another SB.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 12:23 pm

I know the strategy the team employed in this year's draft was frustrating for a lot of people. It was designed for the long term rather than for immediate help. I think Deguara was the player they expected to play the most this season and he got hurt early in the season. Thanks for the comment, Point-Packer.

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Point-Packer's picture

November 19, 2020 at 12:33 pm

I'll be more than happy to eat my words if Love is a starting caliber QB in this league for many years.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 12:47 pm

Agreed. I think all Packers fans would be pleased if that happens. We've had Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacking for nearly 30 years now. If we can get lightning to strike again, we'd be in great shape. Thanks for the comment.

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splitpea1's picture

November 19, 2020 at 01:41 pm

They need lightning to strike with a lot more of their defensive picks rather than expecting the QB to carry a mediocre team through the playoffs--that is what would please me.

And as a side note, I'll think we'll find out all we need to know about this team when we play the Colts; are we going to flop and fold like we did against Tampa Bay, or are we going to put forth our best effort for four quarters and play like a real contender?

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 04:30 pm

The Packers have played two contenders outside the division thus far: Tampa Bay and New Orleans. They played well in one game and poorly in the other. Let's see what happens vs the Colts. Thanks as always for commenting, splitpea1.

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stockholder's picture

November 19, 2020 at 02:38 pm

And I say Queen.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 04:31 pm

Too late now, but you weren't alone. Thanks, stockholder.

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CoachDino's picture

November 19, 2020 at 05:34 pm

Your going to have to finish swallowing the words about the Packers not have receivers capable of getting the job done first. Sorry, I just remember you going after nags, which there is plenty there to do so, but the rec. part didn't end up being one of them. If I'm mistaken my apologies, all in good fun....

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splitpea1's picture

November 19, 2020 at 01:26 pm

Discounting Love, the production on the field from this year's draft is definitely frustrating for a lot of people. Runyan was a solid pick, though--at least he's played in all of the games. The rest of these picks are nothing more than a bunch of question marks at this point. You see why we rely on UDFAs so much to fill holes. I hope we don't see a repeat of this in the next draft.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 12:50 pm

There isn't much immediate help from this year's draft class. I think this draft was designed to give LaFleur pieces of the puzzle that he wanted to run his system: QB of the future, Derrick Henry style RB, versatile TE/H-back, depth on the o-line. But the immediate impact was minimal. Hope some of these players pan out and contribute by the time the 3 year window that we usually judge a draft by is over. Thanks for the comment, splitpea1

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Archie's picture

November 19, 2020 at 02:13 pm

"........I think this draft was designed to give LaFleur pieces of the puzzle that he wanted to run his system: QB of the future, Derrick Henry style RB, versatile TE/H-back, depth on the o-line."

I agree 100%.

Packer fans must be patient on this draft. Gute did NOT go all-in on a SB with AR. He went all-in on a SB with Jordan Love. The latter will take longer. That's why I'm convinced Pack will trade AR after 2021 season. That will give them the money to pay Bak & KC after 2021. If they can catch lightning in the both with AR this year or next, great, but they have their eyes set on post 2021 and post-Rodgers. Sad but true.

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Razer's picture

November 19, 2020 at 02:36 pm

...That's why I'm convinced Pack will trade AR after 2021 season...

I am getting that sense as well. Of course, Jordan Love will need to show enough 'development' before the leap into the deep-end. I also get a vibe that Rodgers is getting a little tired of being "the man" in little old Green Bay

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Leatherhead's picture

November 19, 2020 at 04:22 pm

If Love is ready...........yeah, you trade Rodgers and use the salary cap space to add talent. If Love is ready.

Regardless of who our QB is, we want him protected. The starting line of Bakhtiari, Turner, Jenkins, Patrick and Wagner will be around for a while and they will play well and that helps ALL the skill position players. IMO, the offense is going to be good for a while, with and without Rodgers

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CoachDino's picture

November 19, 2020 at 05:43 pm

I think you make good points. IMO if Rodgers is balling keep him, so what if your 1st rd pick doesn't work out. Statistically the odds of a bottom half 1st rd pick becoming a start are not favorable. The odds of a 1st rd pick contributing much in the first rd, especially after 15 are also not favorable. I wonder how many of the fans that think rookie draft picks and certainly 1st rd picks grew up with the Packers as I did. Then so often it was a top ten pick, the team stunk and these guys had a real chance to contribute. Otherwise, sure we hear about the rookies on sports center highlights when they do make a play but for the most part rookies don't have much impact overall to a team's success on good teams. Not to say some don't but out of 32 teams how many are stars in year 1?

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splitpea1's picture

November 19, 2020 at 03:06 pm

It seems that Packer fans must be extraordinarily patient with every draft; when does the waiting stop? Or do we keep getting strung along for years and years with the ultimate tease?

All in on a Super Bowl with Jordan Love? Can we just see him play first before we assume he's going to get us there? Offense is only half the battle, anyway; defense is the great challenge for this organization, at least one that is capable of holding its own throughout the playoffs and giving us a shot at the Trophy.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 04:33 pm

That's a heck of a gamble when you're one game away from the Super Bowl but it may very well be what Gute was thinking. This is a long term draft, no doubt. The fact is, most draft picks don't contribute a lot in their first season. We'll see, Archie. I hope Gute is right on this one. Thanks for commenting.

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CoachDino's picture

November 20, 2020 at 04:55 am

Patrick Queen is currently dead last in LB ratings for the entire league and hence 2020 draft class according to PFF - I wouldn't of been upset if the Packers took him and he may end up being a player in this league but both Barnes (11th)and Martin (5th) rank ahead of him in 2020 Draft LB rankings. The best guy was a 6th rd pick. (Min 50 snaps)
Conclusion Zero Net Impact gain drafting High for ILB for 2020 season.

DI - Keke ranks ahead of all 2020 draft picks and if you include 2019 he is 2nd to Jeffery Simmons Keke's rush Defense grade is barely ahead of Simmons. Lancaster isn't far behind.
Conclusion: Limited to no impact gain drafting DI for 2020 season. This somewhat surprised me...

I compared Lazard/MVS to the 2020 draft class and AL ranks in the middle of the class but is 4th in TDs just playing 3 games. Chase Claypool is the most impactful WR so far in the 2020 draft class. MVS grades out low due to drops but ranks high (16th in the entire League) in TDS. Considering the Packers reduced 3 WR sets the Rd 1-3 WR draft pick might not of played as much with the Packers compared to their current team. Injuries at WR for the Packers were not be factored into a draft decision eval (losing 3 -4 of your WR to injuries and 1 to an opt out is not normal or projectable. In hindsight this may have produced impactful opportunities. There were a handful of players that could of made some impact in 2020 most not in the Packers draft slots in the 1st or 3rd rd.
Conclusion: Limited Net Impact Gain

It could also be said the Packers drafted Josiah to impact the Rec game and much more but as it stands its not fair to say the TE's are bringing it in rec. enough to offset WR impact analysis. If Jace and BT were doing better it would greatly reduce the 2020 Draft Impact at WR from where it stands now, even though WR draft impact is low.

IMO a sound conclusion would be that drafting the positions analyzed was not the action required to incrementally improve enough to bridge the gap required to go to the SB. It seldom is and this set of quantitative data and loose analysis of it, clearly illustrates that. That said the data is from just 1 of multiple databases that supply this type of thing (PFF) and just a everyday average joe making the conclusions (moi). IMO this has more credibility than observational opinion only and in the end just something to ponder.

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November 20, 2020 at 07:53 am

Ditto, coach.....every team has struggles with many of their rookies. Fans rarely take the time to review all teams picks and normally it is cherry picking from news reports of the ones who are making waves and they are few and far between. The draft is a crap shoot, especially when you are picking in the bottom half of each round. What many fans don’t rationalize is reports that come out all the time when other teams are frustrated or release their first and second round picks, many who were drafted in the top half of each round.

IMO, from a small Nfl sample size and watching college tape of both Dillon and Deguara are solid picks and will help this team for years to come. They are perfect for Mfl offensive style. What Dillon does is give them great flexibility on whether they sign Jones and Williams and for how much money. Smart move on Gutey’s part. You just can’t over pay on a RB’s second contract. That has been proven to be the wrong move by a large percentage.

Was Love the right move? I say yes because you must protect the future as well as the present. As you stated, a back end first round pick rarely provides immediate help anyways.

I’ll take ten years of winning over one SB and many years of losing. It’s a lot about managing the SC. If you go all in, you greatly risk many years in futility. I know many on this board want the “all-in” and I respect their opinion, I’m just on the other side of that proposition.

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Guam's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:38 am

Great research CoachDino and very helpful information - thank you for doing the work! I am not surprised that most rookies are not rated highly - the transition to the NFL is significant and rookies rarely shine. Having said that, I am not sure I agree with your conclusion that two more rookies (1st and 4th round picks spent on Jordan Love) wouldn't have been enough to bridge the gap to the SB.

The Packers are close to being an excellent team and are currently the best team in the NFC by record at least. How much more help would they really need to be a serious SB contender? Your D-line analysis uses Keke as the baseline for comparison, but what about Lowery as the baseline? I suspect you might get a more favorable comparative result for the rookies if Lowery was the baseline. And IMO it is Lowery that needs to be replaced, not Keke.

Imagine Claypool as our #2 WR and he was available without a trade at the Packers #1.

What's done is done and hopefully Jordan Love is our QB of the future, but I will always wonder what the impact of those two draft choices might have been, because the Packers are close and IMO only needed a small infusion of additional talent to make to the top.

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CoachDino's picture

November 20, 2020 at 05:57 pm

Guam thanks for the kind words and the thoughtful insightful critique.
I used Keke instead of Lowery because Keke wasn't playing and would most resemble bringing in a new player (draft pick) it was also the fact that he was drafted just the previous year. Great comment though, thats a pet peeve of mine that people don't dig in like you did and at least question the analysis for oneself...Not sure but I assume Keke has taken up some of Lowery's snaps (i sure hope so..lol).

No getting around Chase Claypool and even a few others to a lesser extent. I made my case why his talent/impact might not be realized but that said Claypool brings it. I mentioned MVS and AL TD totals. Combined for more than any draft pick or 95% of WRs in the league. This is where methodology comes in and a human (me) decides on whats important and what's not. Hence we know one thing....Its wrong, the question is always with analysis, how far from right. (deviation from the norm or margin of error "type" probability)

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dobber's picture

November 20, 2020 at 09:26 am

"Patrick Queen is currently dead last in LB ratings for the entire league"

Not only does he rate poorly, but he rates poorly on a top-end defense.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 21, 2020 at 11:11 am

He is what he is, a guy rated to the mid-second round, or three. They tried to promote him as the next Devin White,not.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 21, 2020 at 11:06 am

Trade the Fans. The whole dialogue since the trade for Favre has been winning the Big Game. When you have talented , HOF level QBs , you point your resources to that end. You hit on guys in high rounds that can contribute right away and will still be a chess piece going forward. Blue chip players take home the prize.
Gutedkunst should have been more aggressive with rd two move ups the past couple years. The lack of action for DT/DEs in free agency speaks volumes about Packertown's willingness to Win it.

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CoachDino's picture

November 21, 2020 at 07:43 pm

Great debate...
Define Blue chip players becomes the question. Most Analysis (for what that's worth) and quantitative data (Just PFF) has Blue chip draft picks being the top 15 in general even top 5 picks. After the 5th pick you have a drop off in All-Pro/Pro-Bowl but the big drop off is after 15. So drafting in the bottom 1/3 of each rd or lower more often than not gives you very lower probability of landing a blue chip player let alone one that has expectations of year 1 impact. This is my opinion but I only came to it when presented with the facts. The type of position you draft also plays into the odds of "Blue Chip Players" meeting expectations. There are some great articles written based strictly on quantitative analysis using Pro-Bowls/All-Pro and WAR as scales of performance.

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Razer's picture

November 19, 2020 at 12:37 pm

It is unfortunate that the Packers have drafted so poorly these last years because it has forced us to shore the team up with more expensive talent. AJ Dillon is a good example of this given the Packers now need to make a million dollar decision on two backs who have reached the end of their rookie contracts. Dillon needed to demonstrate that Aaron Jones, while nice, can be replaced without worry. Dillon is a big question mark and we need a decision.

Corey Linsley is another gun-to-the-head situation that our draft could have given us options. Without solid draft (and develop) we end-up making Billy Turner decisions - costly and suboptimal.

As for this draft, the latter rounds have proven better for this team. ILB and safety have realized actually depth. The first three rounds should have been instrumental in providing plug-in talent, instead we are throwing around "earning trust", "developmental" and all the other qualifiers that seem to mark our drafts.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 12:52 pm

It's frustrating for a lot of fans the way the team drafted for the future rather than the present this year. We shall see if any of these players pan out. Linsley, Jones, King and Jamaal Williams are all tough decisions but I don't think the Packers can keep more than one of them. Thanks for the comment, Razer, you're far from alone in your frustration.

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November 19, 2020 at 01:27 pm

Of course the 'new' cap number will dictate a lot of these signings. From the 4 that you mention, the only one that fits the wallet is Jamaal Williams. King will be expensive and fragile. Linsley will be expensive enough and there are options on the team. Aaron Jones is a RB who takes some serious punishment. It is not in the Packers DNA to throw top dollar at this high risk position (and I don't blame them). Williams should be a bargain because there are a lot of his level runner in the league. Some FA and future salary banking (Davante Adams) is my prediction.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 04:34 pm

I know they won't keep both Williams and Jones. Williams is cheaper, Jones more dynamic. We'll see which way Gute goes. They both could be elsewhere next season but I hope not. Thanks for the comment, Razer.

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:22 am

Well, in this readers eyes, the majority here wanted Clark and then Bakh resigned. Gute did just that. The reality is that doing so means we are going to lose Linsley and likely Jones.

Linsley may be a great center but it looks like the team has more than adequate depth there, perhaps by design. Jones’ market will be telling, but Bakh’s deal likely forced the choice. One can only backload so many deals.

At this point it looks like we might have a basis for a decent ILB corps going into next season. We should be set up at OLB. We need to add depth at WR and now probably RB. The TEs have been developing. The question is the blocking role for the future. My guess is that the main focus other than that will be defensive. Quite how that shapes up will depend on who is our coordinator. In my view it starts with DL, CB, and a Hybrid S.

Should have plenty of picks to cover those positions. I’d start with DL, WR, CB, S, RB, OLB in that order in an ideal world unless our defensive scheme changes, and then look at revisiting WR and DL.

Based upon what I think we have, next year looks to now make us stronger if we do this. Just need longer to reshape and retool this roster, including more patience letting some of our players develop.

Will we keep M Adams and Jackson? The rest of the season may decide that. I would be releasing Lowry and Burks. At this point I’m writing off EQ. Maybe he will actually show up in the next few games, but to me he looks lost just as much as Burks does.

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November 20, 2020 at 08:47 am

Good overview CW. I might add that resigning King seems unlikely unless his injury history allows a cheap deal. Two other veterans that also might be on the cut list are Kirksey and P. Smith. Neither has displayed much this year and while they still have a half season to show why they should be retained, a second half like the first half might see them gone given the young depth at their positions.

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dobber's picture

November 20, 2020 at 09:37 am

"Linsley may be a great center but it looks like the team has more than adequate depth there, perhaps by design."

Mid-late rounds of the 2020 draft certainly provided bodies to reinforce the interior OL. Packers now have two bodies not named Linsley who could play C right now (Jenkins, Patrick) and one who might develop (Hanson), and two guys who might compete to fill in (Runyan and Stepaniak) to open positions at G. This will test their ability to continue to develop young linemen, but if they hit the jackpot on these younger guys, the coin they save with rookie contract guys playing is huge.

"Should have plenty of picks to cover those positions."

The signing of Bakhtiari goes a long way to opening up that first round pick, where they would all but surely have had to pick an OT.

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November 19, 2020 at 08:21 pm

King is not a tough decision. He's an above average situational CB on the rare occasions that he is healthy. He has been relatively healthy 1 time in the last 6 seasons, counting college. More people falling in love with height/speed/combine stuff than actual tape.
Williams is not a tough choice. He's a mid level number 2 back. If he is priced according, get him back. If someone wants to pay him to start, run the other direction.
Jones is a tough choice, but I think he comes cheaper than some people do. The 2021 potential RB FA class looked ridiculous at the beginning of the year, but everyone except Jones got paid. It could be looked at as he's the undisputed number 1 free agent running back now for next year, but a lot of teams have a lot invested into the position now and I'm not sure he gets a deal like Cook or even Joe Mixon at this point.

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

November 20, 2020 at 05:50 am

I would love for you to expand upon your concept of a "situational CB", as well as a "mid level number 2 back". Are those terms that you picked up while accumulating your vast experience working in NFL front offices? After all, your ability to assess talent is simply uncanny. It must be all of that tape you watch.

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November 20, 2020 at 09:46 am

I agree with you. King is a starting-caliber NFL CB. The Packer defense is markedly better when he plays...GMs just have to decide how much they're willing to spend on a guy who you don't know how many games you're going to get.

I would argue that Williams is a better back than several teams are trotting out as their starter, which will create a market for him. His best trait is that he can do just about anything, but he's not spectacular at any one thing.

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Lare's picture

November 19, 2020 at 01:00 pm

The only thing I can say about the 2020 draft selections is that it looks to me like Ted Thompson made them.

Personally, I think the Packers need to get out of the Ted Thomson decision-making tree and back closer to the Ron Wolf decision -making tree.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 12:57 pm

Ouch, Lare, I know you didn't mean that as a compliment. Thanks for commenting.

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murf7777's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:01 am

Your complaining that TT drafted a QB in round one? Wow, you expectations might be a bit high. Other then drafting a QB in round one, how does Gutey’s draft compare? It certainly isn’t from drafting a FB/TE in round 3.

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:26 am

To me, they look about as far from a TT draft as one can get. They do look very much like a draft to build a team like the 49ers of last year. This draft has LaFleur written all over it. The wild card is Love, which may be labeled insurance.

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dobber's picture

November 20, 2020 at 09:49 am

"To me, they look about as far from a TT draft as one can get."

How many times has Gutey traded back to accumulate 6th and 7th round picks?

"They do look very much like a draft to build a team like the 49ers of last year. "

They should get three decent comp picks in the upcoming draft...which will be a crap shoot on many levels due to some abbreviated schedules and "mid-major" teams not getting to showcase their players against high-end, power conference schools.

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Duneslick's picture

November 19, 2020 at 01:33 pm

You have a very easy grading scales. Garvin done nothing in 85 snaps. Scott got confused on assignments and made mistakes. Dillion 23 carries. All C+ Come on

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 04:37 pm

I graded on a combination of expectations and performance. What was really expected this year from players drafted in the sixth and seventh rounds of the draft. That they make the team and contribute a bit on special teams? Make the practice squad? C+ more or less means they have met those low expectations so far. That's the way I graded it although I understand where you're coming from. Thanks for commenting, Duneslick.

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dobber's picture

November 20, 2020 at 09:52 am

Garvin has played about 16% of the defensive snaps...for a 7th round rookie playing behind the Smiths and Gary, that's not too shabby.

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Lphill's picture

November 19, 2020 at 01:43 pm

The Packers have a linebacker named Burgess I don't think they drafted him but he may be the best inside linebacker on the team.He had multiple double digit tackle games at Louisville , he went un drafted but I think he should have stayed in college one more year, but he can tackle , I would like to see him get a chance inside . James Burgess , his dad played too and may have been on the Packers. Unrelated to the topic Gil but just an FYI considering not much positive reports on the draft class.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2020 at 04:40 pm

I would love to see what James Burgess can do. He's been in the league three years before this, two with Cleveland and one with the Jets. Started for parts of two seasons. We'll see if he can get into the lineup with the Packers this year. Thanks for the comment, Lphill.

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:48 am

He was released by the Jets, which does raise some questions although they seem to think their ILB corps was deep. The Jets were the sixth team he’s played for since being signed as a UDFA Bby the Dolphins in 2016.

Despite that I did like this pick up. He is a willing tackler, but he has also been injured a lot which is a factor in his having moved around a lot. He is a smaller ILB that the Browns used a lot in coverage. I’m guessing that this may be a reason it’s taking time for him to pick up the scheme, because that’s his more obvious source of value.

He is only 26, so room to grow, but I don’t see him having the upside of Martin. He looks to me to be a more experienced Barnes type that I could see getting in on the D at some point.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 21, 2020 at 11:21 am

I like the Martin and Barnes combo. Coach them to be efficient. Do not believe Kirksey has the quicks any longer to shoot gaps or willlingness.

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stockholder's picture

November 19, 2020 at 01:51 pm

IMO. Bg lost all the drafts but his first. He should of finished building the defense. But instead: We have the biggest class of Busts in NFL history. Love was the biggest gamble ever by a GM. So many passed on him. ( He isn't Rodgers.). And there is always that QB in every draft. Next A big RB. Really why? This OL can't pick up a yard. He's No Earl Campbell. Finally a Nobody Te /Fb type in the 3rd. A traded 4th to move up. BG has become a Sucker. His pick of Martin only shows how bad we needed LBs. And instead of drafting a guy @ WR. He takes Runyan. Who now because of Bahk's outrageous contract will never start.( Unless a guy goes down.) Does anybody in the NFL expect any 6th rd. picks to be more then fill-ins? This class got an F grade. And thats on BG. Every year since 2010; the Roster has filled up on Un-drafted FAs. For some reason the door keeps revolving. I Don't expect that to change. And now that were in Cap HELL. It's put up or shut up.

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Razer's picture

November 19, 2020 at 02:57 pm

Your commentary on our first 3 picks match my own sentiment. Jordan Love is pure project. Trading up for Love and Savage and over drafting Dillon and Deguara doesn't give me much confidence in our scouting or front office. I hope that I am wrong because recovering from these misses is not going to be easy.

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:54 am

Describing Deguara and Dillon as misses 8 games into their rookie seasons and worrying about how the team will get past them illustrates that you have sealed your assessment. To do so on any draft pick at this point is risible.

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dobber's picture

November 20, 2020 at 10:02 am

The Deguara and Dillon picks feel like overdrafting based on projections, but if they turn out to be exactly the right guys for the roles planned, then it works out. That remains to be seen, but it could be just as much BG and LaF trying to outsmart the room (to use Bearmeat's phrasing), which doesn't often work well.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 21, 2020 at 11:44 am

Deguara would be their HB type of guy that is no longer on this squad. The lack of a true FB on this team irritates me. Watching the reality of the past four seasons with Jones and Williams injury reports made Dillon a strong candidate for depth. What if Rodgers went out with a Barr Hit or something longterm as in 2017. Do you want to take another waiver on Deshon Kiser? The concept of Edwards-Hillaire over Love, sign a veteran backup QB, and go ILB/WR in rd two would have taken future leverage away from A.Jones and provided an equally dynamic RB for the roster. All a question mark.

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gkarl's picture

November 19, 2020 at 02:53 pm

Gil,

I would rate this class as a "see". We're going to have to wait and see how they turn out in the next couple of years, With what little playing time if any this class has had so far it's impossible to really know what the GBP have at this point.

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:55 am

Simply true of any draft.

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gkarl's picture

November 20, 2020 at 09:36 am

True that

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vppackerfan's picture

November 19, 2020 at 03:15 pm

Oof, a B- for Runyan? Seems like a pretty solid find in the 6th round to me.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 21, 2020 at 11:37 am

I would let him be the RT down the road.

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Cheesey51's picture

November 19, 2020 at 04:16 pm

Ok I get it 1/2 a season evaluation. Most folks doing the scouting have said a 3 year window is needed to assess what a player is worth.
So here goes,
TE Josiah Deguara, was making an impact. He appeared to have had a jump on the playbook and was in the right place at the right time. B for his potential
AJ Dillon. "Mr. Thighs". Strentgh and power and endurance. Like Jonathan Taylor both are having a hard transition to the NFL. Once Dillon gets the blocking,blitz pickup and assignments done,he'll be a beast.Next year
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LB Kamal Martin- Everyone ,myself included want this player to be the next Desmond Bishop. He has spurts of greatness, misses assignments/tackles/out of position. Has a short memory like a DB, gets back up and keeps fighting .B
G-Jon Runyan. Contributes when on the field Does not appear to make mistakes when he fills in at a new position- Guard Consistent on Special teams. C+
C-Jake Hanson & OT who just came off PUP -Not able to assess
Vernon Scott-(see Jon Runyan)Scott fills in well when Richmond is out or Savage-C+
Wishful Thinking: I would like to have 2 speedy ILB or drafted WR:Vikes:.Jefferson and or traded for another DT ( Dalvin Tomlinson,DT, NY Giants)YES.
Sunday is go time against the Colts
Lotta Game Left!!!
Go Pack Go!!!

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CoachDino's picture

November 19, 2020 at 05:53 pm

Interesting, as you make good points but if the Packers drafts were so bad over the years they wouldn't have all these tough decisions. These are Packer draft picks that are so good that it becomes difficult to keep them. To your point though I agree as if Spriggs pans out, we have a LT though Bak is an exception, Dexter Williams, The CBs (to many to name) ILBs Burks, Jake. So I see your point but it cuts both ways.
According to PFF, not the bible but a quantitative analysis, the Packers drafts as a team rank over 10 years I believe, in the top 5 I believe, maybe 10. It was a year ago and very technical. It takes into account where you pick in each round and the expectations for that spot, along with positional value and WAR.

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Since'61's picture

November 19, 2020 at 06:46 pm

After 9 games I would summarize the grade for the 2020
draft class as an incomplete. Given how little they have actually played a withdrawn might be a more accurate description.

However, they are only in the beginning of their second semester at the most. 2021, 2022 and 23 will ultimately provide the final grade for this group. If my memory serves me correctly the entire draft class is still with the team which is a pretty good sign especially since we had 3 6th rounders and 2 7th rounders in 2020.

I hope that we get a chance to see Stepaniak play if the Packers activate him during the next 3 weeks.
Thanks, Since ‘61

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murf7777's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:06 am

Good comments 61’....what can you expect with no OTA’s and pre-season.

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Fire_Gute's picture

November 19, 2020 at 07:50 pm

I'd be a whole lot more excited about Love if he was the first QB Gute was rumored to be interested in. It's pretty well known he was in love with Kizer, and there's a few stories out there stating his interest in Drew Lock. To me it doesn't seem like he saw something special in Love, just seems like he feels the need to find his QB right away. Doesn't take a lot of research to see what reaching for a QB does for your future.
People who see Derrick Henry in AJ Dillon are the same people who said Kevin King was going to be the next Richard Sherman or Jeff Janis was Jordy Nelson 2.0. Lazy comparisons based on body type. Henry looks fast, not just fast for a big guy. The early tape on Dillon looks very unimpressive to me, and looks like the reason why he was projected to be a 4th or 5th by most people. Gute appears to be obsessed with that RAS score garbage, and I feel he reached to high again and it's going to bite him again. Dillon does not appear to have much burst and his feet look slow.

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2020 at 08:58 am

He obviously didn’t need a QB right away since it’s pretty clear Love wasn’t intended to play this year when drafted.

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Fire_Gute's picture

November 20, 2020 at 12:19 pm

He's been searching for his QB of the future since he got the GM job. Nothing wrong with that if you aren't trying to reach for one.

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porupack's picture

November 20, 2020 at 07:46 am

Thanks Gil, we see where you were going with the article (early report card). You made all the appropriate disclaimers, so not sure why so many comments about it being too early to tell. Of course it is, and you said so yourself, but to still have an early glance. Nonetheless, even so, no player stands out from their respective slots and expectations except Runyan and Martin.

Its hard to know how to evaluate JLove particularly due to draft round #1 and the all important QB position and the expectation as backup and future replacement. So the whole draft score card is impacted heavily by this one pick (or actually 1st and 4th round picks). So, seems we have to conclude any early report card is kind of pointless considering JLove.

As for the others....it was a good exercise on a round by round basis.

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CoachDino's picture

November 20, 2020 at 06:05 pm

I see some people have some issues with the analysis in the article but as others have pointed out "you made all the appropriate disclaimers"

IMO, if grading was done in accordance to where taken in the draft and positional value it's another "score" for Mr Martin

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