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Peterson Will Get His Yards

While it's true that there's little to no use in fretting about Adrian Peterson this Sunday, (he's going to get his yards) I'm not sure I completely buy this from Greg C. over at the Lounge.

Money quote:

When you play the Vikings now, you must pick your poison. And given a choice between a vial labeled “Peterson” and a vial labeled “Favre, Rice, Harvin, Shianco, et. al” I say it is wiser to choose the vial labeled “Peterson.” Let him get 100 yards. Hell, let him get 150. He may even break off one or two long ones. But the priority should be disrupting the passing game and not allowing Brett Favre and his receivers to get into a rhythm.

Unfortunately, the Packers seemed to have the opposite strategy going into their first meeting with the Vikings. The lack of pressure on Favre in that game was nothing short of a disgrace. Let’s hope they don’t make the same mistake again on Sunday. And if that means that the run defense is a little soft, so be it. Adrian Peterson is not going to win the game single-handedly.

I think it's a bit simplistic to say the Packers chose to stop Peterson at all costs at the expense of defensing the passing game. They actually used a lot less of their Big Okie formation than they did against Stephen Jackson just the week before. I do think they did a great job, as the game went on, of putting the Vikings in 3rd and long, only to fail on those downs. Hence, my post below.

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foundinidaho's picture

Is it just me that wants this game to be over already? With us winning, of course.

NickGBP's picture

Good thing Capers is the one getting paid the big bucks. It's clear (as if it wasn't before) that we would all fail immediately.

Shootz's picture

I'd be a good special teams co-ordinator. There'd be so many surprise onside kicks that they wouldn't be surprises anymore.
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Also, to add to your post, I think one of the things we know about Favre is that he's great at the pre-snap phase of his game, I think part of the reason we didn't come out Big Okie to stop AP as often was because as soon as Favre recognised that he'd likely check out of the run and go against a weak linebacker (say, Chillar for two TD's for example). With our secondary currently in good health (and containing one god-like cornerback) I'd put more faith in them to stop AP than I would in a specialised formation.

WoodyG's picture

How about a compromise.........
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My plan would be to stop both AP & BF...... I don't see why its got to be one or the other ...... Stop AP on 3rd & 3.... stop BF on 3rd & 10........
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Put AR on the field & keep him there.... Win TOP something like 37 min. to 23 min.

WoodyG's picture

Some facts about the Qweenies:
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They are only two plays away from being 4-3 versus their 6-1 record.
The only winning team they have beaten is the Pack.
Their defense is ranked 17th in the NFL in yards/game.
Their offense is ranked 12th in the NFL in yards/game.
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I'm thinking a big margin for the Pack..... say about 34-13.
How sweet it will be!!

Ron La Canne's picture

Absolutely Woody! You don't overplay one or the other. To deal with Favre you must generate pressure and to deal with Peterson you need to control the corners and be stout in the middle. So, you've got a 50% chance oof guessing right. They pay Capers and his staff the big bucks to add knowledge of tendencies to the calculation. that should be worth another 30% or so. So, in the best of circumstances they're guessing 15-20% of the anyhow. That's where the Safeties come in with the 34.
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I'm with Woody, do both!

bomdad's picture

Its not like stopping AP will take a herculean effort. Chilli will do it on his own free will, and I have no doubt that Brent audibles out of run quite frequently. I love how they slowly have abandoned the run. Stop the run early, and prepare to duck hunt.

Just Pete's picture

After seeing Favre play for the Packers for 16yrs. his biggest problem was an early dose of blitzes. Once he's rattled, the rest of the day is shot. They have to come at him early and often.
AP will get his yards, but not like he used to. He's a little banged up and our defense is fresher. GO PACK!

NickGBP's picture

Good point Pete. The Cowboys game of the 13-3 season comes to mind. And I honestly think that that game is what made McCarthy decide he needed to switch to the 3-4.

C.D. Angeli's picture

I disagree.

Peterson didn't exactly "get his yards" in the first matchup, did he? I'm reading 25 carries, 55 yards, 1 TD. He had an equally unimpressive day on the ground last week in the loss to the Steelers: 18 carries, 69 yards, 1 TD.

Why assume one or the other must get their yards? Sure, Peterson is a tank, but there's ways to stymie that. The Packers did it last time on the Vikings home turf.

jon's picture

I believe that the Packers can shut down Peterson again. but they cannot ignore wide receiver Rice ...... On a serious note, condolences go out to the family of Vikings Safety Orlando Thomas.. dead from the terrible condition ALS (Lou gehrigs disease) my aunt died from the same condition two weeks ago.

packeraaron's picture

jon - it seems the report about Thomas was premature. According to Adam Schefter, his family and agent say he's still alive.
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http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/5246751582

4VikeMike4's picture

FROM THE ST PAUL PIONEER PRESS WEBSITE - INTERESTING....EVEN FOR PAKERS FANS:

Brett Favre knows what it's like to be booed at Lambeau Field.

So he's prepared for what could be a largely unpleasant reception Sunday when he makes his return there for the first time.

"I've heard boos in that stadium before," Favre said. "Honestly, numerous times. That was obviously different. As a player there, you don't expect to hear that in your home stadium. But I didn't play every game in that stadium very well. I played a lot, but there were some times where we struggled and that was kind of a kick in the stomach hearing those boos. It wasn't often. There were way more cheers. And I suppose there will be a little bit of both this week."

Before the Oct. 5 kickoff against the Packers, Favre was as nervous as he's ever been before a game, by his account. And that was for the game at home.

This time, it remains to be seen how sick to his stomach he might be.

"I don't think it'll be as bad, but I don't know that," Favre said.

Vikings coach Brad Childress said he would be worried if Favre didn't have some butterflies. He wants his players to feel the competitive nature of football.

No doubt there will be many emotions this time that he didn't even know he would feel, that he couldn't have prepared for, no matter how much advice he's gotten from former Packer Ryan Longwell, the Vikings place-kicker who prepped Favre about what it was like to go back to Green Bay.

Longwell told Favre this offseason that it's an emotional situation
leading up to the game but that kickoff the game takes over, and nothing else interferes.
Longwell said it will help that Favre has a game under his belt against his former teammates.

"I think he'll be fine," Longwell said. "I mean, it will be different just from playing over there from the other sideline and that type of stuff. He's played in big games before in big scenarios, so once the game starts, he'll be fine."

There will be legions of fans who once supported Favre who have turned their backs on him. And that could produce an uncomfortable feeling for a man who spent 16 years trying to please them, winning a Super Bowl for them and taking them to another only to fall short.

He was voted the league's most valuable player three consecutive years while they rooted for him. Now the mayor of Green Bay has been asking fans how to welcome Favre back while poking fun at him, albeit tastefully.

Favre understands that some people would be happy to see him play well while pulling for the Packers to win. He said he has received many letters the past couple of years from people who still want him to succeed.

Others won't wish him any luck.

"The people that have jumped ship or whatever completely, what can I do?" Favre asked. "And I'm not going to concern myself with it. ... There was always Brett Favre haters out there. And that will never change. I really and truly don't think about it that much. Because I know once again what I've done, what I was a part of, and I'm proud of that, and I think that speaks for itself."

Favre is looking forward to a fun game because of its importance in the NFC North Division race. The Vikings are 6-1 and the Packers are 4-2.

"It's exciting because of where both teams are, first of all," Favre said. "But that was the last reason to come back. When it's brought to my attention — family, friends, you guys — that's probably when I think about it the most."

Favre has shown an ability to control his emotions once he steps onto the field. He did that well earlier this month against the Packers, throwing for three touchdowns and 271 yards with no interceptions on 24-of-31 passing. The Vikings won 30-23.

In 2003, the day after his father died, Favre passed for 399 yards and four touchdowns as the Packers romped at Oakland.

Favre said he's not sure how he was able to perform well in those emotional games.

"I wish I had a secret, because in all big games I would have played that way," he said. "To me, being able to focus, being relaxed, kind of seeing things clearly as they're happening, is a much better and more productive way to play. And I think I said it after the first game, that being nervous and having anxiety and things like that, I don't think can be a plus when you're in a decision-making role.

"But in that case (Oct. 5), and in my father's case, I don't know how it was done. And there was other games. The first Super Bowl I played in, I almost forgot all the plays we were running, I was so excited."

Favre said he's always had fun in big games and that's been an important ingredient in his career.

Packers receiver Donald Driver said Wednesday he's looking forward to seeing how his former teammate reacts to stepping back onto the field he once dominated. Driver just doesn't know what to expect, whether it'll be a smile or tears or laughs. It might be a combination.

"But I think that's what everybody wants to see," Driver said. "Not just you guys (the media). I think the world wants to see it."

Fans reach out as Brett Favre leaves the field after the Vikings defeated the Cardinals in St. Louis on Oct. 11. Favre knows he won't get the same reception Sunday from former Favre fans at Lambeau Field.
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Being a life-long Vikings fan, whom at the same time LOVED watching Brett Favre Play for the Packers all those years....
........well, I have mixed emotions....It's wierd. It's almost like the rivalry has reached unchartered territory....I'm confused. . . . . . .
I have on ething to say, "YOU GUYS CAN'T HATE THE MAN BECAUSE HE LOVES THE GAME!" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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MAY THE BEST MAN WIN!!!!! . . . . . . WHOMEVER THAT MAY BE, IS YET TO BE SEEN.
GOD BLESS THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE!!
BECAUSE THIS WILL TRULY BE A GAME TO BE REMEMBERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PACKERS's picture

I haveto agree with Mike. This is why I love football. You just can't get this in Amy other sport.

foundinidaho's picture

Brent wouldn't talk to the Green Bay press corps. What was he afraid of? They might ask him a tough question?

I still wish this was over. It's like watching your parents fight.

nerdmann's picture

The Packers shut down Apete in the previous game, but they had backup Derrick Martin in at safety. The dude was constantly out of position, leaving large areas of the field open for Favre.
That will not happen this time. Bigby is back on the field.
We also seem to have found a stopgap for what REALLY cost us that game: LT.
We lost Finley, but they lost Antoine Winfield. The Queens' backup CBs have looked ok, but so has Spencer Havner.
Clay Mathews has become a starter and Barnett is back to 100%. Raji's ankle is vastly improved.
Oh yeah, plus we signed a HB who can actually catch the ball. Secret weapon?
I think overall, we are more than competitive.
Lee catches that one ball and the game is tied. We had three long drives which we failed to capitalize on.
We can win this game.

Ruppert's picture

I actually think the defensive gameplan in the first meeting wasn't a bad idea. Dom chose to make Favre prove he could still beat a team singlehandedly, basically. That would have been a hell of a lot better idea if the game was in December, but Peterson is was a "known." Favre was "unknown." Up until that point, he hadn't had a stellar game. And with his long layoff, why not make him prove his worth?
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We can't do that again, however. We need to pressure the QB. We need to make Favre make mistakes. If we do, we win. Pressure their QB, and keep ours off his butt, and it's a win.

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