Jordy Nelson deserves to be in the bad tonight.

I'm impressed with the positive responses I've read. There's so much to be proud of. However...

-another close loss with another haunting array of what ifs and, again, a game shifting special teams gaff.

Upshot: trust your team and do what you practice and you might have success. Get fancy out-thinking (squibkick) out of fear, and you probably lose.

Next loss will do it.

Up next: Giants, Bears, and if then, the good news, most likely the Saints.

I'll be there rooting, cringing and getting older with each down.

As usual, Capers gets more from his players than their talent level would indicate. Guys like Bush have gone from the most hated and mistake riddled players, to effective members of the team, albeit in a backup capacity. Peprah, Shields, Bishop, they all play above their ability as part of a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts.
Not so with McCarthy's and Slocum's units. And it's a grotesquerie, given the talent with which TT has stocked this team.
Oh yeah, why was Starks inactive? Because he's not as good as Kuhn?

it was a typical james jones game- he can be great on one play and then look like someone who has never played football on the next. i don't get him. flynn was excellent today. i'll give him a break on the pick since it's his first start in the nfl. the game plan overall was very good too. kuhn really stepped it up big time as did bj raji. man- he had a lights out game! hopefully we can kick the shit out of the NYG next week and knock em out of contention.

John Kuhn was a beast tonight and i thought quinn johnson had a good game too. That attempt at a tackle peprah made was dissmall and james jones is just so soft he has to go. that dropped intercept from woodson was a shame. I think matt flynn shut alot of people up tonight and may get us a good draft pick in a year or two. All in all was a good game, i was on the edge of my seat the whole 60 minutes.

James Jones is our Roy Williams,
Does not take that extra stride, push to get some more.

Regarding Kickoff coverage, Slocum will be fired after this season.

Nick Collins loss is huge!!!

NFL-record---72 yard KO return?

Where's PackersRS or whatever and all the haters? Figures. Heart is the definition of our season with all the setbacks we've had. Unless I'm mistaken, win out from now and we're in. What a great effort from almost the entire team. BUT, since we're a team and sink or swim together, as a team we came close. I'm so proud of those boys. It's games like this, when so many count us out before we start, that make me proud to be a Packer fan. Very proud. At full health, we can take on ANYBODY. At half strenght, I'll STILL put us against anybody. At THIS point? And we fought New England to the last minute? man...GO PACK, GO!

im too drunk to taste this chicken so ill just say this...GO PACK GO!!!!!!!!!

woodson in bad please...that dropped interception in the 1st quarter was terrible and wouldve took off 7 points for them...his coverage was lackluster also

Dom Capers needs to be put in the "Good" category. I counted 2 drives, maybe a 3rd where Tom Brady dictated to the Packers defense. Otherwise, the defense dictated that game. Great game plan by Capers pressuring Brady to move him off the spot. Sadly, once again, special teams and McCarthy's play calling in critical situations hurt this team.

Can we put the goal line series in the bad category. 2 straight FB dives with Kuhn ridiculous.
Can we please not put Shields on kickoff returns anymore. He is just awful. Afraid to get a hit and just runs out of bounds on every return. Shields for UGLY

I'm so happy with the overall effort. Matt Flynn was extrememly impressive. I mean, man...it was his first NFL start. Very proud of everybody.

The only disappointing thing is that, once again, my personal bad highlights are a crappy special teams play and McCarthy's goal line play calling.

I can't rip Charles Woodson. Where was Wes Welker last night? Nobody in the league EVER contains that guy. But we did. I vote for Dom to be in the good. He did come up with an awesome defensive gameplan. I mean, the D didn't give up that INT return, and the D didn't let a kickoff come back to our own 4.

I don't understand why MM doesn't run off tackle at the goal line. Jackson had a great game and was finding holes. Running Kuhn right into Wilfork's gullet is not the way to go.

I'd put the Refs in the Good category for this game too. From the right non-call on the punt return interference (Bush was blocked into the guy) to the correct illegals hands to the face ca

BJ Raji is so freaking awesome. His "cereal-eating" sack/big play "dance" is probably the best in the league.

Keep eating big man!!

I will say this, though.

For as proud as I am in the effort the Packers showed last night, it's beyond infuriating to know that they're capable of playing like that yet we still get efforts like last week in Detroit. This team really needs to stop playing down to the level of its competition.

I'd like to add HBO's Lombardi documentary to the Good.
Jordy Nelson hurt the Packers in many ways. Quite a disappointment, he's the white version of James Jones. That's too many James Joneses.

Changes/upgrades for 2011-
Special Teams Coach
Offensive linemen
Woodson to Safety
Trade Nick Collins while he has value. (He rarely finishes a game. It's always something but rarely serious.)
Learn how to win close games.
Hope for some playoff experience this year!

I am a MM supporter...but he needs some help at the end of games. His brain doesn't work quickly- all people are different with different strengths.
If you watch the last 20 seconds- someone MM? was telling Flynn to spike it! FOURTH DOWN Flynn flashes back. Now all this is happening after a timeout before the previous play.

KEEP MM- but he needs to be open to some support by committee on the sidelines- there is just too much going on in the NFL today-for one man to make all the decisions, plans, replay challenges..play calling, time outs,....keep track of downs/distance...on and on..

The fact that we, from a town of 100,000 people, can knock New York and potentially Chicago out of the playoffs in consecutive weeks makes me absolutely giddy.

Tough loss but we needed to win these last two anyway. Go Pack!

So, answer me this: What exactly must Kuhn do to be on the good? Because getting impossible first downs and touchdowns isn't good enough...

Kuhn for President 2012.

Mike McCarthy and Ted Thomson need to go. McCarthy is in over his head as a HC and it constatntly shows.

Mike McCarthy and Ted Thomson need to go. McCarthy is in over his head as a HC and it constantly shows.

Again, the special teams failed us. The Flynn interception hurt. However, despite these two errors, the Packers had a chance to win and again, the play calling of Mike McCarthy continues to plague this team. While the lumbering kick return of one Dan Connelly was an embarrassment and clearly a result of poor coaching (no lane discipline, no “press and fold” by Peprah and others…..this isn’t being repped well enough. Heck, my 10 year old son’s team knows this basic of football fundamentals…pursuit with regard to the ball….PRESS and FOLD…….why isn’t Slocum gone yet?), there were two critical situations in which Mike McCarthy, once again, failed to rise to the challenge. The first occasion was the goal line situation in which we got only 3 points. First, let’s look at the personnel and play call. On 1st down, McCarthy goes with 23 Personnel (Crabtree, Quarless, Lee, Kuhn, Jackson). From the 2 yd. line, McCarthy calls a FB Belly with Kuhn. Kuhn gets it to the half yd. line. The Pats were line up in a 6 man front playing head up across the board. Good call for the situation and to come off the ball. I had no problem with that call. However, McCarthy chose to run the same play with the same personnel only this time he had Lee lined up at a wing or “hip” position off of Crabtree on the right side. The previous play he had Lee flexed out a little. The Patriots went to a “gap” front, covering gaps A thru C on both sides of the ball. On the front side of the play Crab tree washed down the C gap player. Lee got a seal on the player aligned outside of him. The problem was that the FB Belly call in this situation was never going to work. The situation ended up being a 2 on 1 advantage for the Pats. McCourty came untouched between Lee and the block of Crabtree. If Kuhn would have managed to get by McCourty, Mayo was scraping over the top and would’ve made the tackle as well. From a simple numbers game, the Packers were outmatched. If he wanted to run the ball, McCarthy would have been better served giving it to Jackson and using Kuhn as a lead blocker on McCourty. This would have given a 1 on 1 situation between Mayo scrapping and Jackson either hitting the seam between a leading Kuhn and Lee or an opportunity to bounce the play wide. Either way, with this scenario, the Packers would have had a better chance getting in to the end zone. I suggest that the ideal call using the same personnel would have been a playaction pass using Crabtree on a “bang arrow to the flat, Lee to the corner and Jackson to the intermediate flat or curl area to give Flynn a triangle read as he rolled out. Very similar to what McCarthy tried to do on 3rd down when he tried to run rubs and picks against a zone coverage. Rubs and picks don’t work against zones. Additionally, not going for it on 4th down in that situation was a mistake. In the event they would’ve turned the ball over on downs, you’ve set your defense with good field position. That’s the strength of this team. I would’ve liked that situation. Again, I think this highlights the lack of a killer instinct in McCarthy when he has an advantage in field position at critical moments of the game.
The second critical situation was at the 10:59 mark of the 4th quarter. The Packers were up 27-24 after having just traded field goals with the Patriots. Starting on their own 21, McCarthy came out in 11 personnel (Driver, Jennings, Nelson, Quarles and Jackson). On 1st and 10, ball on the right hash, McCarthy decides to go play action and use a 7 man protection, keeping Quarless and Jackson in to block. The Patriots send McCourty from the boundary. Jackson initially picks him up but he stops his movement upfield and comes back under to get the sack of Flynn as he stepped up in the pocket. Here is the big problem. Nelson, who was at the Z, ran a go up the sideline. Jennings, who was at the opposite flanker position in a 2 x 2 set, ran a 15 yard dig route. Driver, who was at the X in a compressed alignment on the same side of Jennings, left side of the formation, ran a deep crossing route that broke at 12 yards and climbed to 15. The Patriots had the right call on for the route concept. A boundary corner 5 man pressure with a roll coverage to the boundary. It appeared to be a fire zone without a dropping defensive lineman. There was a 3 under 3 over shell. The problem I have with this call is the call itself. Prior to this, Flynn was able to get in to a rhythm with the mix of runs and high percentage WCO type concept passing structure. This completely went against all that they had accomplished through the first 3 quarters of play. Again, another critical situation in which McCarthy went with a low percentage success, high risk play. Back to his old vertical game….once again. I would have preferred a run or pass that moved the pocket or was part of the quick game or screen game. As it was, the play resulted in a 4 yard loss and put us in 2nd and 14. The 2nd down play to Jackson was a good decision by Flynn. Jennings ran a shallow under from the same formation and Driver ran a 15 yd. dig. Nelson ran a 10 yd. stop. Quarless ran a go in the vertical seam. Jackson snuck out to the voided hole area. If he could’ve caught the ball in stride he could have picked up half of the yardage to put us at 3rd and 7 rather than 3rd and 14. On 3rd and 14, from a 2 x 2 formation, Jennings ran a sluggo seam from the left side of the formation in compressed alignment. The two flankers ran pivot outs/comebacks at 15. Jordy Nelson ran a check release route from the right slot position, just off of Bulaga’s hip. He ran a shallow under and stopped. Jennings had cleared the seam area. Had Nelson kept running laterally and Flynn hit him, we would have had a shot to pick it up. Nelson had a 7 yd. cushion from Mayo who was the closest defender. This series broke down from the first play call. A nice high percentage play would have been nice.
These two series were critical in the outcome of this game. I’ve said for quite sometime that McCarthy is not a good play caller. I believe he uses some good personnel groupings BUT I don’t believe he uses them correctly for the given situation. As a head coach you need to manage the game. That is your biggest job. Understanding the people you have on the field, the success you are having with a certain approach, and the critical nature of field position, quarter and the clock are paramount to having team success. If it hasn’t been clear by now, hopefully these two situations give some perspective to his abilities to manage the entire game. He understood his team’s own abilities and strengths for 3 quarters but at the beginning of the 4th and 10:59 in the 4th, he lost sight of that. That is where, I argue, this game was lost. Yes, Slocum should’ve been gone eons ago. Yes, Campen is too inconsistent. Heck, I’d argue that we need to get rid of Jimmy Robinson as well. Sit down in the window vs. zone unless you are running a guy off. Run away from man coverage. Things our receivers seem to be inconsistent at. There are lots of issues here folks but they all point to one man and that man is McCarthy. Whether it’s game management, play-calling, system, staffing decisions etc. etc, etc……”the buck stops” with McCarthy.

Chris Collinsworth can go on the Ugly. It took him three times before he saw the clear as day helmet to helmet on Quarless. When Flynn stood in the pocket and delivered a pass he was "poised." When he took a sack he was "taking too long to get rid of the ball."

On one sequence, he talked about how the game isn't too big for Flynn since he played in the National Championship game - "Heck bring on the Patriots, that's fine." LITERALLY two plays later when he threw the ball out of bounds on third and goal..."The game is giving him happy feet. IT's a little too big for him here in the 1st quarter." Seriously? Are you listening to yourself?

According to McCarthy "we came to win." Also, "we're nobody's underdog." Well, here it is folks. With the playoffs on the doorstep and everything in our control, McCarthy has a chance to save his job. Now we'll get to see just how good of a coach he is. Demeanor of the team, game plans going in, etc. etc. etc. all on display in this next game. Believe me folks, this ain't going to be a cake walk. New York is going to be ready. They're fighting for their playoff lives as well. Is McCarthy the guy to lead this organization to a Super Bowl someday. Well, if you need any evidence, this Sunday will be the litmus test. It doesn't get any bigger than this game. Judging by past events, I'm not too confident....but we'll see.

The Giants are an unpredictable beast, coming off that disaster yesterday. I could see them coming out like gangbusters, and I could also see them falling apart if we can get an early score or turnover or two.

Personally, I'm rooting for them to fall apart a la Dallas so Coughlin can be the third coach we get fired this year. Then, as I'm dreaming, the Bears lose out and Lovie becomes #4 after crush them on January 2nd. It's all so easy...

JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PACKERS AND THERE USE OF PERSONNEL. IF YOU WATCH THE GAMES AND SEE WHO IS ON THE FIELD WHEN THEY HAVE OFFENSIVE SUCCESS, YOU WILL FIND KUHN IN THE MIX ALOT. YET, THEY CONTINUE TO SUBSTITUTE AT THAT POSITION. SEEMS LIKE HE IS IN SHAPE, NOT INJURED, YET ONLY PLAYS MINIMAL DOWNS. JUST DON;T GET IT

Johnson was borderline bad for me yet again.

JSOnline Headline: "Jennings out 4 to 6 Weeks With Broken Left Foot"

I nearly started crying. Literally.

Then I read the article and they're talking about Brandon Jennings of the Bucks. There is a God!

(not dissing Brandon Jennings, just not a Bucks fan)

For a game that was called right for most of the night...horrible call to use your 2nd timeout after getting the first down. Runs on 1st down had been productive most of the night, and if I'm correct, it was against a 3-front when they used it. Had they not, outcome at the end would have been much different.

But shame on Bulaga to block worng right after a timeout.

5 losses by 4 or fewer points.

I've never had more fun yelling "KUUUUHHHHNNN" at the TV than yesterday. He was really amazing. Matt, too, exceeded expectations.

VERY displeased with MM at the end of the game, until then I thought he outdid himself.

Shawn Slocum....augh.

You need a "Butt Ugly" category. Just copy-paste Slocum's name in there after each game.