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Re-watching the Saints game late last night (yes, I’m a sucker for punishment) I was shocked at how well Al Harris played. This was a game I thought for sure we would see Sean Payton and Drew Brees expose Harris’ lack of speed. But Brees wanted nothing to do with throwing at Harris, and you could see why. The guy was all over and never gave up. He was still playing his ass off long after the game was decided. And you simply can not say enough about his effort on the 70 yard Lance Moore TD.

Between coming back after the lacerated spleen and the unbeliavable job he’s done in coverage since he’s been back, I do believe I owe Mr. Harris an apology. He is simply a warrior.

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• Sunday Is the Season

So the powers that be in Georgia allowed Michael Vick to plead guilty to State dog fighting charges. He is now slated for release on July 20th 2009 from the federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kansas which should give him more than enough time to find a team to train with (see Oakland Raiders, Dallas Cowboys) in time for the 2009 NFL training camp and subsequent season.

All that will stop Michael Vick from playing in the NFL next year is the Commissioner of the NFL, Roger Goodell, our favorite player meddler and cheating cover-up specialist. Back when this all came out Mr. Goodell wrote a letter to Mr. Vick and I quote:

“Your admitted conduct is not only illegal, but also cruel and reprehensible…Even if you personally did not place bets, as you contend, your actions in funding the betting and your association with illegal gambling both violate the terms of your N.F.L. player contract and expose you to corrupting influences in derogation of one of the most fundamental responsibilities of an N.F.L. player.”

You can download and read the letter here.

So why does this matter to Packer fans? Especially when we have a currently indicted (but not yet convicted) on felony charges player of our own. The answer is it doesn’t, not directly anyway..the Packers would never hire him as it would tarnish irrevocably the image of one the greatest sports franchises this country has ever seen. Which is the very reason it should matter to Roger Goodell. I personally shudder when I think of Vick in an NFL uniform. This was a man who orchestrated, funded and profited from organized crime. A man who killed, mutilated and maimed dozens of innocent animals under his care all while profiting on their misery & suffering.

A 17-page report filed Aug. 28, 2008, by case agent James Knorr of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and released Friday November 21, 2008 under the Freedom of Information Act adds even more unbelievable atrocities and lies to the Vick “Bad Newz Kennels” story. (You can read the entire report at The Smoking Gun)

Here is a summary of some of the most egregious things in the report:

1. Vick killed pit bulls by hanging them from a nylon cord nailed to a tree and drowned others in a five gallon bucket of water.
2. Vick twice placed family pets into the ring with pit bulls because he and his cohorts “thought it was funny to watch the pit bulls…injure or kill the other dogs.”
3. Vick, and a third man had to drown one dog after it did not die when they tried to hang the animal.
4. After Vick agreed last year to plead guilty to a conspiracy charge, he was interviewed by federal agents and claimed that he “never actually killed a dog,” though he admitted watching his friends hang, shoot, and electrocute pit bulls. But after failing an October 2007 FBI polygraph test “as it related to the killings of the dogs,” Vick recanted his denial and “admitted taking part in the actual hanging of the dogs.”
5. Concerned about being seen attending dog fights, Vick observed the action from an upstairs room at the shed in which the fights were staged.
6. In April 2007, only a couple of weeks before the dog yard was first discovered by authorities, Vick and co-defendant Quanis Phillips killed a pit bull by slamming it to the ground several times.

Pro Football Talk makes a good point about the fact that Michael Vick has not been convicted of actually killing dogs, an obvious “miscarriage of justice”.

According to the Sporting News (which also states it’s a question of when and not if the NFL will reinstate Vick) here is a quote from Roger Goodell about whether he intends to reinstate Vick.

“The good news is I don’t have to make that decision right now,” Goodell said in an interview at his New York office. “He hasn’t finished serving his time, and the legal process isn’t completed, and I said he was suspended until that process was completed. And at that point I will make a decision on his ability to play in the NFL.”

For the sake of the National Football League please Mr. Goodell - Just say NO.

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• Mental Makeup and Coaching

McCarthy, when pressed by several reporters on whether Derrick Frost should be cut:

I hear you gentleman. I know where you’re coming from. It’s been heard and well-received.

UPDATE: Here’s the video. Love where McCarthy says:

We didn’t punt very well last night, no doubt about it. That is twice now indoors that we didn’t have a good performance. We need to continue to just try to improve from within.

How? Is he auditioning guys on the practice squad? Perhaps Ryan Pickett has a hidden punting talent? Hilarious.

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• Changes That McCarthy Should Make Today

A popular sentiment among coaches after a blowout loss, like the one the Packers experienced last night, is to “burn the tape” - meaning, don’t even bother watching tape of the game because it won’t teach you anything you don’t already know.

McCarthy should burn the tape.

The Packers sailed into a perfect storm last night (That was for you Steve!) Every conceivable weakness they have was matched by every overwhelming strength the Saints have. It was obvious that Bob Sanders simply could not adjust even slightly to what Drew Brees and company were throwing at him. After Rodgers threw his first pick, it was pretty much over. No way were the Packers going to get one stop, much less the three they would need to get back in the game. McCarthy felt as much, which is why he called for an onside kick with over 12 minutes remaining.

This Packers team has now played the two dome games on their schedule, and it’s readily apparent they are in no way built for playing indoors, especially on defense. The glaring lack of speed across the board was shocking last night, where even guys like Tramon Williams and Nick Collins looked like they were moving in mud when compared to the Saints receivers. Throw in the fact that they’re isn’t a competent pass rush outside of Aaron Kampman and you have a recipe for disaster. The hope for the Packers is that their five remaining games are all outdoors, where this team has looked much, much better. The problem is, even if they do make the playoffs, the probability of another playoff loss at Lambeau is quite high.

But I digress. Burn the tape. Forget the trip down to New Orleans ever happened. Tell Bob Sanders he is coaching for his job over the course of these final five games, starting with Sunday’s showdown against the Panthers. This game is the season. Beat the Panthers (and it says here the Packers will) and the Packers continue their Bataan Death March to an 8-8 Divisional Championship. Lose, and it’s time to start paying attention to college football to see if we can spot any future Packers.

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• Directly after the Bears game I wrote: Rodgers had a good game, but he simply has to stop staring guys down - it’s gonna cost him … Well, tonight was Exhibit A.
• I also wrote: A.J. Hawk played an excellent game in the middle, but let’s hold off on the ‘move him to the middle next year’ calls until the Packers play a more dynamic offense - like next week … Yes, I’m doing this to make myself feel better
• This is the game that makes me start questioning McCarthy as a gameplanner/play-caller - Ryan Grant was woefully underused, long before things got out of hand in the 3rd Quarter. And why does it always take his team being down multiple scores for him to call a vertical route? And could we PLEASE scrap the red-zone screen play which has never, ever worked since McCarthy started calling it? But these are small things - why he didn’t come out in his multiple tight end sets and pound the ball, I’ll never know.
• Bob Sanders tried to do way too much from the get-go. Why all the zone? And why were the corners playing 5 yards off on almost every play?
• The lack of talent on the defensive line is criminal. Ted Thompson needs to get off his ass this offseason and navigate the “dangerous waters” of free agency to get some immediate help. His draft picks are not ready and/or not talented.
• Can someone, for the love of GOD, please tell me why Frost still has a job? There are guys playing Saturday morning in Central Park that can punt better.
• Rodgers is going through all the same things Favre went through with the West Coast Offense and playing away games in domes. It will get better, but wow is it hard to watch.
• Whatever Bigby had at the end of last season - he’s completely lost it.
• It’s really hard to watch a Packers team that has no heart.
• Believe it or not, the season is not over - but this team is not winning a championship, which makes it feel like it is.

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• One Game At A Time

For those of you who that have joined our Packer Fan Forum, you no doubt have read about our rewards program, the one where we give out buttons for posts.

Well now there is another way to get those much coveted Cheesehead TV buttons and help spread the word of CHTV at the same time. Here’s what you need to do.

1. Download the Cheesehead TV Flyer
2. Print it out (as many times as you like)
3. Take it to your favorite Packer Bar, Fan Club, Packer Friends party
4. Post it to the main message board - be sure to ask permission (while your at it hand out copies to your Packer friends as well)
5. Take a picture of the CHTV flyer on the message board, as well as the bar/location it’s at, Packer fans around it etc…
6. Choose your favorite 3 Cheesehead TV buttons
7. E-mail me the pictures, button choices as well as your address.

That’s it. Why not do it tonight? Thanks to Andrew in Atlanta for the idea. Thanks to all of our fans for helping to spread the love.

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