Packers Week 15 Snap Counts Versus The Carolina Panthers
Once again, let's take a look at the snap counts. The Packers had 51 players on the 53-man roster and elevated OG Zach Johnson from the practice squad.
| Inactive Players | Love, Garvin, Stepaniak, Sternberger and Josh Jackson. |
| Active - DNP | Love, Zach Johnson |
Sternberger and Stepaniak were inactive due to injury. Although Stepaniak was listed as a full participant in all three practices, the Packers are giving him time to fully recover from his knee injuries. Love, Garvin and Jackson were all healthy scratches.
| Name | Snaps | % | ST |
| Jenkins | 62 | 100 | 4 - 14% |
| Turner | 62 | 100 | |
| Bakhtiari | 62 | 100 | |
| Patrick | 62 | 100 | 4 - 14% |
| Wagner | 62 | 100 | 4 - 14% |
| Nijman | 4 - 14% | ||
| Runyan | 1 | 2 | 4 - 14% |
| Rodgers | 62 | 100 | |
| Boyle | DNP | ||
| Adams | 60 | 97 | 1 - 4% |
| Lazard | 48 | 77 | 7 - 25% |
| MVS | 40 | 65 | |
| St. Brown | 11 | 18 | 5 - 18% |
| Austin | 4 | 6 | 5 - 18% |
| Taylor | 1 | 2 | 8 - 29% |
| Tonyan | 39 | 63 | 7 - 25% |
| Lewis | 30 | 48 | |
| Daffney | 11 | 18 | 9 - 32% |
| A. Jones | 56 | 90 | |
| Dillon | 5 | 8 | 6 - 21% |
| Williams | 4 | 6 | 1 - 4% |
| 20 played Off. |
The offensive line opened huge holes in the first half. Aaron Jones ran 12 times for 114 yards, a 9.5-yard average. Williams added one rush for 6 yards and Dillon added a carry for 18 yards. Many of those rushing yards were gained prior to contact with defenders. The line did allow two sacks and some pressure. Rodgers threw for 99 yards and a touchdown in the first half and rushed for another touchdown.
The second half was different. Aaron Jones rushed 8 times for 31 yards, a 3.85-yard average. He was the only running back to carry the ball in the second half. Jones earned quite a few of those yards. Rodgers was sacked three more times in the second half. He only threw for 44 yards in the half.
All of the offensive linemen threw some beautiful run blocks in the first half, as did tight end Marcedes Lewis. Lucas Patrick allowed three sacks by my count and Turner allowed one. Bakhtiari allowed some pressures. Tonyan was fairly quiet with 3 receptions for 18 yards, but one was for a touchdown. Tonyan missed a block or two: indeed, Rodgers was barking at him on a bubble screen to the right side. The Packers had excused Tonyan from special teams duties but against the Packers he played 25% of possible ST snaps.
| Name | Snaps | % | STs |
| Savage | 69 | 100 | 3 - 11% |
| Amos | 69 | 100 | 8 - 29% |
| Alexander | 69 | 100 | 2 - 7% |
| King | 69 | 100 | 2 - 7% |
| Sullivan | 58 | 84 | 11 - 39% |
| Redmond | 22 | 32 | 19 - 68% |
| Scott | 10 | 14 | 13 - 46% |
| Black | 16 - 57% | ||
| Hollman | 13 - 46% | ||
| Z. Smith | 60 | 87 | 1 - 4% |
| P. Smith | 52 | 75 | |
| Kirksey | 49 | 71 | 5 - 18% |
| Gary | 35 | 51 | 5 - 18% |
| Barnes | 31 | 45 | 7 - 25% |
| Martin | 22 | 32 | 15 - 54% |
| Ramsey | 4 | 6 | 20 - 71% |
| Burks | 22 - 79% | ||
| Summers | 22 - 79% | ||
| Clark | 59 | 72 | 1 - 4% |
| Lowry | 44 | 64 | 8 - 29% |
| Keke | 24 | 35 | 9 - 32% |
| Lancaster | 21 | 30 | 7 - 25% |
| Rush | 1 | 2 | |
| 23 played Def. |
Barnes started out playing seemingly every snap with Martin and Kirksey rotating in at times. Barnes had a huge forced fumble at the goal line and 3 solo tackles in the first half. On the first drive in the second half, Barnes added three more solo tackles including a tackle for loss before exiting the game with an injury. Kirksey finished with 9 tackles (5 solo) and Martin added 4 tackles (2 solo). The Packers played 1.48 ILBs per play on average.
The distribution of snaps for the OLBs was normal. Gary left the game with 2:44 left in the fourth quarter. Zadarius Smith also left the game shortly thereafter. The Packers played 2.19 OLBs per play on average, which is normal. Lowry played more snaps than Keke in a surprise to me. Keke had no tackles but recorded two quarterback hits. Arden Rush played one snap. The Packers played 2.03 true defensive linemen per play on average.
Amos had a great game with 3 passes defensed, a sack, and 7 tackles (6 solo). He came up and made sure short gains remained short gains, unlike some of Green Bay's previous safeties. Savage also had a fine game with 6 solo tackles, a tackle for loss and a pass defensed. Alexander was very solid. Sullivan was up and down, and King was down more than up. The Packers played 5.63 defensive backs per play on average.
| Name | Snaps | % | ST |
| Scott | 10 - 36% | ||
| Bradley | 10 - 36% | ||
| Crosby | 9 - 32% |
J.K. Scott punted six times for a 45.8 average and a 42.5 net. He landed two punts inside the twenter. Crosby made an important 51-yard field goal. He kicked off 5 times. 3 reached the end zone and two were touchbacks. The Panthers returned three kickoffs for a 24-yard average with a long of 28. The Panthers' kicker kicked off 5 times and had 5 touchbacks, meaing there were no kick off returns by the Packers. Ty Summers had 3 tackles on special teams.
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Comments (28)
ShooterMcGee
December 20, 2020 at 08:07 am
It seemed like Barnes and Martin were given the opportunity to take over the ILB spot from Kirksey. The offensive performance in the 2nd half probably lost Rodgers the MVP. There is no way to watch it and think he is the best in the league, although much of the blame must go to the O-line. And what happened to the running game in the 2nd half?
Thegreatreynoldo
December 20, 2020 at 08:45 am
IDK! Many will remember the five consecutive runs for 31 yards on the last TD drive of the first half, all of which were by Aaron Jones. The first run was at the Carolina 31 yard line and GB just ran until Jones scored a TD. But the Packers' offense was pretty balanced overall on those first three touchdown drives. They passed 12 or 13 times and ran 12 times, plus 2 or 3 scrambles by AR, one for a TD. This isn't the first time where the game was a tale of two halves. The doldrums is a concern: I had to laugh when someone wondered if LaFleur was the worst half-time motivational speaker on the planet.
I couldn't determine just when Jamaal left the game from the stats or play-by-play. I am sure his absence did not help the pass pro.
Coldworld
December 20, 2020 at 09:09 am
Before half time, just before Dillon had his one carry I believe.
I can not understand the unwillingness to use Dillon. Up and your line is having trouble protecting your QB? Bring in Dillon and Daffney interspersed with Jones as variety and hit them hard and often, interspersed with play action. They were sitting on those bubbles and flats by the 4th, yet we couldn’t come up with a call to get behind them?
It’s not like this is the first time we have seen this scenario this season, yet we seem to have no plan. LaFleur may a great game planner, but he also seems to find it impossible to adapt and adjust if that plan doesn’t work or ceases to. Think 49ers last year, Tampa, Indianapolis, second Vikings. In fact he seems to go into a shell, go conservative and simply repeat the same calls. Really good coaches on good teams are going to skewer him if he has that weakness.
CoachDino
December 21, 2020 at 06:01 pm
I hear ya on Dillon, I just don't get it. Jones has not done a good job on Pass Pro. He is a weapon as a recc but seems to have become a liability as a pass blocker.
I have a tough time putting all the blame on LeFleur. Who knows what he's calling, Arod has the final say and Arod hasn't looked sharp coming out after halftime and when there is quick pressure. He is a master at eluding pressure when it develops but when it comes in quickly he just refuses (to my eyes) to recognize and immediately check down to the hot rec.
Arron likes to let it be known how he is the man and makes all these calls, that said he should take the brunt of the blame IMO.
murf7777
December 20, 2020 at 09:07 am
“The offensive performance in the 2nd half probably lost Rodgers the MVP.“
one half and you’ve thrown Rodgers out of the MVP race is just nonsense. He was smart enough not to throw into tight coverage and possibly give the Panthers more momentum in the second half. He is the best I’ve seen him play in years and it is a very tight race between him and mahommes.
In addition, the Panthers have given a tough game to a number of top teams in the NFL this year.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 20, 2020 at 09:22 am
IDK, I tend to agree that he isn't out of it but this performance didn't help. 50 sportwriters (no one in Detroit!) votes for the MVP. They should be savvy guys but at least some of them watched this game and haven't seen AR's other games.
Coldworld
December 20, 2020 at 09:28 am
I think it spoke more to LaFleur than Rodgers. I think it will hurt LaFleur and Adams’ chances. Bad day to have uncharacteristic drops and get squeezed out by a not highly rated D for Adams. Harsh but it was in the national spotlight. Conversely, Jones probably earned more money. LaFleur looked out coached in second half.
PeteK
December 20, 2020 at 09:51 am
At least wait until the end of the Chiefs/Aints game. LETS GO KC!!!!
Thegreatreynoldo
December 20, 2020 at 08:57 am
I used a photo of Krys Barnes. It sure looked like Barnes was given the opportunity to be the ILB who never comes off the field, at least until his eye injury. Hope he is okay. The other movement on snap counts was Lowry reclaiming #2 status. Keke had 2 QB hits but no tackles whereas Lowry had just one tackle.
Other things are fairly clear:
Hollman > Josh Jackson.
Ramsey > Garvin.
Scott > Black.
P & Z are #1 and 2, with Gary #3.
It was interesting that GB elevated OG Zach Johnson over Braden and wtih Runyan active.
Also interesting wasn't just Tonyan who had been completely off STs playing 25% of snaps, but a lot of starters played at least a handful of snaps when they hadn't played STs at all in the past.
Having trouble seeing Amos or Wagner as a cap casualties next year. Amos is solid and Wagner is cheap and is a pretty good tackle.
Coldworld
December 20, 2020 at 09:23 am
Braden has used up his 2 call ups. Garvin is undersized. He needs to add strength and mass to be more than a speed rusher. Higher upside than Ramsey. I think it’s the upside that got him on the roster.
Tonyan probably took Sternberger’s snaps. Daffney was already playing ST last week and is more in the Lovett role.
Wagner is great value and I hope he stays. Wisconsin kid too. The thing about Amos is that he is not just a good tackler but the kind of player who enables others to play better around him because he gets his job done.
Looks like Barnes took over the ILB 1 role, with Kirksey in the ILB 2 role. Not sure if that changed after Barnes went out.
If you take out QB runs, we really didn’t give up much on the ground, due in part to getting a lead early. Im wondering if the runs were a function of inexperience at ILB.
dobber
December 20, 2020 at 10:26 am
I think that's an important catch on Bridgewater: he had a couple scrambles for 1st downs that kept drives going (and a couple that were thankfully nullified by pentalty).
I'm not going to say this a great defense, but the energy has been better the last few weeks. Amos and P. Smith have both been significantly better.
packer132
December 20, 2020 at 09:46 am
Zach Johnson was elevated since Braden was out of options having been called up twice. He would have to be activated to the 53 if they wanted him active for the game, which costs the team more money than practice squad player.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 20, 2020 at 09:54 pm
It is true Braden is out of elevations. The cost of elevating Braden is the same as elevating Zack Johnson though. GB actually signed Braden to the 53 earlier this season and then released him immediately after the game, and after he cleared waivers re-signed him to the practice squad. Since he played STs and not much else, I thought GB would do that again.
Not sure why GB wanted two OGs activated. Since they have activated Braden multiple times I assumed they thought he was better than Johnson. So maybe that has changed or it was just easier to use an elevation on Johnson. The latter sounds like just checking off a list.
CoachDino
December 21, 2020 at 06:32 pm
They need Amos and totally agree on Wagner as well. He is a very cheap hometown contract and is over playing his contract. Turner would be the cap casualty but with his flexibility, lack of a OT, Is nijman even an option? I think the OL has done a great job this year but I don't see an above average player other than Bachk and jenkins. To me Turner, Patrick or on the lower end of avg and Wagner avg. Sure Runyan has done a nice job as a Rookie Back-up Role, answering the bell when needed but he doesn't seem special. If Tyler lindstrom (center out of Iowa) is available in the late 3rd rd I'd be very tempted to take him and move Jenkins back to guard. I'd even use the 1st and 2nd rd picks on OT and CB if Hollman and Nijman aren't starter Caliber. hydrid Safeties and Run stuffing IDL are available in later rds,
jeremyjjbrown
December 20, 2020 at 09:33 am
Kirksey looked pretty bad again. I think it was him and Sullivan who failed to wrap up that tackle in the 4th that allowed a huge YAC.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 20, 2020 at 09:58 am
Yup. Kirksey and Sullivan hit DJ Moore about 7 yards downfield and Moore bounced off them and ran for another 30+ yards if I remember correctly. I watched the youtube highlights but wasn't sure just how many YAC happened.
I put that in the article the first time but when I went to publish it the first time at about 6:45 AM (that means I was completely done after about 2 and half hours of effort) nothing saved on the publishing software and I was looking at a wonderful blank screen. Mea culpa, I hadn't copies and pasted the article to word or google docs like I usually do. So I had 50 minutes to re-do the whole thing, which meant the analysis got shortened to just what I remembered writing but with fewer references to stats. Always save!
dobber
December 20, 2020 at 10:28 am
Is it just me or have the Packers been drifting back toward 11 personnel more as the season has progressed?
flackcatcher
December 20, 2020 at 11:35 am
It's not you...
Thegreatreynoldo
December 20, 2020 at 09:58 pm
2.65 WRs on the field per play on average against Carolina. I will take a look and see what they do against Tenn.
flackcatcher
December 20, 2020 at 12:08 pm
In many respects this was a pretty strange game. (need to look at the all-22) Panthers is a good young defense. Once they got a look at Green Bay's offense, their adjustments in the second half were impressive. I get the impression that MLF recycled most of Lions game plan for this short week. Either way, the Panthers had a counter for whatever MLF pulled out of his game package this week. To be fair, the Packers defense did the same to the Panthers for most of the game. Short comments: Both SS were very good. Amos was special, he played three positions and pretty much shut down the weak side in place of Raven Greene. The lost of J. Williams cost the Packers in both pass pro and the tough inside game. There was no way the Packers were going to play Dillion in pass pro. I wonder how many packages the Packers had for Williams and had to scrapped when he was injured. Lot of folks raking King over for nothing in this game. This is a case where the context matters. For the past four games few offensives have thrown at Alexander. Most of the traffic has been in the mid seam or sideline at King in their pass game. The Packers moved King in the third and Bridgewater threw right at him. King was good in this game. There was something weird about the game flow last night. It seemed that all parties (including the game officials) was a step slow. That's all.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 20, 2020 at 10:09 pm
King: 538 snaps, 38 targets = 1 target every 14.15 snaps.
Jaire: 774 snaps, 66 targets = 1 target every 11.72 snaps.
Sully: 633 snaps, 41 targets = 1 target every 15.43 snaps.
I just see zero evidence that King or Sullivan for that matter has been targeted more often than Jaire. The evidence is otherwise. Teams like to throw to their #1 WR.
*stats per PFR.
flackcatcher
December 21, 2020 at 01:27 pm
Notice what I said TGR. 'Last four games'. Alexander has played at or above a pro bowl level. It's natural to throw at the weaker back. Packers had Alexander moving with the other teams No. 1 when King went down (again). Alexander is seeing mostly hooks, outs, and delay drag patterns to push him off the WR or TE. Teams do not throw directly at Alexander. He's a shut down CB in a pass happy league. Let me put it this way. Teams scheme to get Alexander out of position. They throw directly at King. I'll say it again. King was fine Saturday night. It's no accident that Bridgewater broke the Pocket when his first option and second option were gone. Combo of King and Savage shut down the Panthers speedy wide outs for most of the game, It should be pointed out that the Packers had Alexander in the slot covering their No.2, another sub 4.3 guy. Packer secondary was damn good in that game.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 22, 2020 at 07:02 am
Fair enough. I certainly don't know the breakdown.
Lphill
December 20, 2020 at 04:29 pm
Way too many snaps for Kirksey hopefully because Barnes was poked in the eye , also Barnes had the green dot so hopefully this means he's the starter over Kirksey the defense was definitely better up front when both Barnes and Martin were in they seem to feed off each other , Dillon became a ghost after 1 nice carry , not much motion or use of Austin , are these weapons being saved for the playoffs ?
canadapacker
December 20, 2020 at 04:30 pm
Anybody else see Dafney totally wiff on his block on the last punt - we are so lucky it wasnt blocked. It seems kind of funny both times this year with a whole bunch of AR hype - he has come out and been flat after starting well. Tampa Bay game and this game started well and then it seem to shut down. In the Tampa game the hype was between Tommy B and AR - this time it was about MVP awards. I just hate going 3 and out to start the second half - why defer then???? We seem to have stopped the presnap motion - just use Taylor or MVS or somebody if our new guys is not up to speed. I love when we get the 3 tight ends and the naked bootlegs going as well.
JerseyAl
December 20, 2020 at 08:43 pm
That was Oren Burks, #42.
canadapacker
December 21, 2020 at 09:06 am
Thanks - I just got the number quickly and didnt want to rewind my PVR to look closely - new it was 40 something - Still no excuse not to make double sure near the end of the game. Make the gut go outside and around you the real long way.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 21, 2020 at 04:47 am
PFF gave a great grade to Sullivan. Oops, still think he was up and down.
King's grade went down significantly.
Kirksey's grade improved a bit but still only 39.9.
Barnes' grade improved a lot, still at 41.9 but it was in the thirties.
Jones went up by a lot.
Jamaal up some points over the last 2 games: pff saw those blitz pickups?
Kenny Clark's grade a steady rise. Now 73 and had been 63 for a while.
Amos continued his steady rise in grade and now is at 80.1 for the year.
Wagner still good, turner increasing, Bakh steady, Patrick roughly steady.