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Packers Release WR/KR Jeremy Ross

Wide receiver/return specialist Jeremy Ross has been released by the Green Bay Packers, general manager Ted Thompson announced on Monday.

Ross's release comes one day after muffing a kickoff that led to a turnover and eventually a Cincinnati Bengals touchdown that put the Packers in a 14-0 hole in the first quarter.

He didn't play much on offense, but Ross did have one catch for eight yards in his brief Packers career, and actually filled in as an emergency running back on Sunday.

The attention now turns to what the Packers will do on returns with Ross out of the picture.

Head coach Mike McCarthy has several times expressed a desire to relieve Randall Cobb's special teams duties because of his value to the offense, but he's also the most experienced and reliable returner on the team.

Even with Ross on the team, Cobb was still asked to return kicks and punts in the most crucial situations through the first three games of the season.

During the preseason, the Packers gave an extended look to cornerback Micah Hyde on punt returns, he did a credible job averaging 12.5 yards on two attempts and making four fair catches.

It's possible the Packers could use Hyde and Cobb in a time share much like they were doing with Ross.

During training camp, the Packers gave a few opportunities to running back Johnathan Franklin, but he had only one return in a preseason game for 14 yards.

Perhaps after an impressive showing on Sunday on offense, the Packers will be more inclined to give Franklin more opportunities with the ball in his hands.

There's always the opportunity the Packers sign a free agent for a return specialist as well. A few weeks ago they had running back Joe McKnight in for a workout. McKnight has third-best all-time kick return average.

It's worth noting that the Packers will be short-handed at wide receiver without Ross, however, down to just four players: Cobb, Jordy Nelson, James Jones and Jarrett Boykin.

Fellow wide receivers Charles Johnson and Myles White could be in line for promotions from the practice squad, as could be running back Michael Hill is injuries linger at his position.

Ross played in eight regular-season games over the past two seasons for the Packers. He averaged 17.9 yards on nine kickoff returns, 20.5 yards on six punt returns

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Wenis's picture

Hate to see anyone lose their job but Ross just wasn't getting it done and really looked lost back there when returning punts or kicks.

Evan's picture

Not terribly surprising.

As far as offense goes, I feel like I saw him a lot more often than Boykin. Where could we find snap counts for each player?

Smith's picture

Snap counts: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

Week 3 not up yet, obviously.

Through 2 weeks, Ross had 6 offensive snaps and Boykin had 1.

Evan's picture

Nice. Thank you.

Really negligible contributions for both, but it is curious that Ross has had more than Boykin, imo.

THEMichaelRose's picture

Ross was playing in a RB type role also. And not just yesterday when all the other backs were hurt.

Derek in CO's picture

let's bring in Joe McKnight. We need experience and reliability.

packeraaron's picture

I heard from someone who would know that McKinght's workout for the Packers was terrible.

mark's picture

Chris. Rainey.

Derek in CO's picture

I guess if McKnight looked good, they would've signed him then, but maybe he's still better than Ross now.

Dave's picture

I heard that McKnight has an arrest warrant out for something, doubt they'd sign him.

Irish_Cheesehead's picture

McKnight has a warrant out for his arrest due to traffic-related offenses. Packers won't touch him.

JakeK's picture

Three games into the season and TT/MM are still making preseason decisions.... Funny how fans had Ross all figured out but the braintrust didn't. ... Look for more 'on the run' corrections this season, especially if GB plays similar to the Cincy game down the road. ... Folks, the Pack is rebuilding, this year & next.

Norman's picture

Yeah but keep in mind many of these same fans had Franklin figured out and wanted him cut in the preseason too.

JakeK's picture

All Franklin needed was more PT. ... Plus, he was a highly successful RB at a major college program. ... No way he was not making the roster. ... That was an easy call. ... Some fans need to return to their roots ...soccer.

Smith's picture

Bingo. Fans sure think highly of their own scouting abilities, when in reality they have no freakin clue.

Ct Sharpe Cheddar's picture

true

markinmontana's picture

Exactly. And some people posting on here have Datone Jones pegged as a certified bust, three weeks into his career.

Barutan Seijin's picture

Yeah, and some of youzguys were saying to be patient with Harrell. (Either the QB or the first rounder. Take your pick.) If there had been Packer blogs back then, there would have been people saying Rich Campbell & Tony Mandarich deserved more time to develop.

Sometimes the fans are right, sometimes not. Sometimes the team is right, sometimes not.

jeremy's picture

There's a little bit of difference between a preseason worth of patience and four years, don't you think?

PackerPete's picture

there is no NFL team now or in history where the roster at the end of the season was the one starting at the beginning of the season. and not just due to injuries. there are players released and added due to performance reasons all the time. Fact is that Cobb is a much better option, but he is very valuable to the offense. Nobody else stepped up during preseason, so now a returner has to be signed or someone who is potentially worse than Ross has to be used. that criticism is bogus. i remember how fans were excited before the first big blunder vs the 49ers that there was a real option to Cobb as a returner. Ok, didn't turn out that way, but can't fault TT or MM for trying...

JakeK's picture

You're just making excuses for both TT and MM. ... Ross should have been waived during the offseason. ... Then as an org you are forced to look for better choices.

PackerPete's picture

had Ross been waived and someone else signed and made the same mistake, then I'm sure you'd post "they should've kept Ross"...

JakeK's picture

You're drawing unfounded conclusions. .. Quit believing you have it all figured out. ... You don't.

PackerPete's picture

glad you have it all figured out. so just to see: who should the Packers sign as PR / KR, or who should they play? Let's see whether you can suggest someone who will be good for the team...

JakeK's picture

The PR is already on the roster (KR doesn't matter) ... His name is R. Cobb. ... RC had all of 5 touches against the Bengals for a measly 54 yards.

Hey ... Here's a good idea... Let's play Sneneca Wallace the rest of the season.... We'll have a healthy AR for sure by playoff time.

PackerPete's picture

if KR doesn't matter then they could've kept Ross... At least he is cheap. So we really don't care about KR, just PR, as KR is just supposed to take a knee in the end zone. I can do that. Sign me up. I'll do it for less than Ross even.

packeraaron's picture

"Folks, the Pack is rebuilding, this year & next"

Please put the crack pipe down.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Apparently they are smoking the same stuff that Cow was...

JakeK's picture

Come on Nags

Use some deeper analysis & try to stay objective... As BD often said ... "The times .... they are a chang'in".

My hope is that TT retires after 2013. (he's 60+). Then a younger, more innovative and bolder GM can determine McCarthy's fate. ... Probably after season 2014. ... Similar to Sherman's fate back in 2005.

jeremy's picture

"My hope is that TT retires after 2013."

Count yourself among the few...

Ct Sharpe Cheddar's picture

Smart teams are always building.The 2010 team was rebuild during the year ,how did that work out?

some guy's picture

Whatever you say, Captain Hindsight.

jim's picture

hogwash... this year is going to be a very successful year.

Irish_Cheesehead's picture

The Pack is rebuilding? LOL

Christian's picture

Trade for Josh Gordon, put Franklin on returns.
*sigh*
Yeah I know, it's just wishful thinking....

Smith's picture

Why would trading for someone we don't need be wishful thinking? It would be unnecessary.

Christian's picture

The Packers currently have 3 receiver they can count on. One goes down, and all the plays with 3 WR go out the window. And you should watch how many 3 WR sets they run.

Pack Morris's picture

"Folks, the Pack is rebuilding, this year & next."

Um, chill.

JakeK's picture

Fans need to do a little research. GB has another 15 or so FAs (mostly UFA) after this season. Many starters. All those late round picks that Thompson loves aren't going to make up the talent gap that is inevitable. ... And AR can't do it all.

Ma Linger's picture

With what more late round picks to develop replacing the late round picks who did not develop.

steven's picture

I would love to have McKnight returning kicks. Can't beloved he is still on the market.

Evan's picture

Yeah, I think he makes a lot of sense with our current needs (KR/RB). But, I really can't see them going with just 4 WRs.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Yeah, I agree...

Does anyone know if there are any WR-KR/PR available?

I would say Joe McKnight, but they are thin at WR right now.

Evan's picture

Of course, if one of these RB injuries proves serio....nevermind...knocking on all the wood.

RC Packer Fan's picture

No doubt...

I wonder if Charles Johnson might be the guy they bring up. They have Hyde who could return punts.

I don't know if Johnson could return kicks but they could put Franklin in there possibly.

Would have been nice if they would have signed Tandon Doss.. He returned a punt 80 yards yesterday.

THEMichaelRose's picture

I was thinking Roell Preston might be willing to take the minimum.

Evan's picture

Damn. Now that's a deep cut.

gbslapshot's picture

I seen Desmond Howard on a pregame show Sunday...apparently he is available

jim's picture

the fact that he is still on the market ought to tell us something... it appears that there is something that is obvious to all 32 teams that we do not know.

Stroh's picture

There usually is, which is why when everyone was clamoring for McKnight I was non-committal. If a guy is on waivers at almost any point there is usually a reason. Next time when you see a guy is available, ask yourself why is he available. And if you don't know, assume there is something.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I agree, but then you do have to look at guys like Dujuan Harris last year. He was a street free agent, and came in and gave life to the Packers running game.

Sometimes players go to a place and it just works.

I agree that there is usually a reason why a player is available, but sometimes you can find players that really can contribute.

Irish_Cheesehead's picture

I can believe he's still on the market. He has a warrant out for his arrest.

NoWayJose's picture

And the year after that, they will have UFAs, and the year after that, and the year after that... Who cares? If anything, that fact supports the opposite conclusion - win NOW while we have Raji/Shields/Jones/Finley, etc.

It sure sucks to start 1-2, but anyone who is quitting on the season has no testicular fortitude. Long way to go and not nearly time for the white flag. Go Pack.

JakeK's picture

No one is throwing in the towel. ... Depending on AR to pull out this season is folly ... Both TT and MM have been riding AR since 2008. .. Holmgren stayed too long. Sherman stayed too long (until he was fired). ... Both TT and MM have been in GB long enough. They both hit their peak a few years back. They're both now stale and need to go home. I hate seeing AR's best years used up by incompetent management.

Even Vince knew when to leave.

NoWayJose's picture

I'm sure as hell depending on AR to pull out the season! He's a 29 year old MVP-caliber, super-bowl-winning quarterback. I like those chances.

No reason to even bother with the fire TT/MM stuff. Even if it was a good idea (it's not), no reason to discuss it after 3 games. Let the season be played first, because it's a non-issue till afterwards.

Norman's picture

Wow, really? Would you have fired Tom Coughlin two years after they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl the first time? Would you fire Coughlin now-- they're 0-3 and just got shellacked by the Panthers of all teams! No one wins the Super Bowl every year. Really, really glad you're not our owner!

some guy's picture

Funny that folks don't recognize that their freaking out over a 1-2 start is a sign of how well the coach and GM have done - they've gotten so spoiled by consistent success that they think 2 losses is the end of the world. I don't know if people think quality coaches/GMs grow on trees or what, but the overwhelming likelihood is that if we fire TT/MM, whoever comes next will be worse.

JakeK's picture

Can you read?

"No one is throwing in the towel."

Try deeper analysis with some objectivity. GMs/HCs come & go all the time.... As with players, I rather see them exit a year early than a year late.

jim's picture

coughlin is the perfect example to show your patience. new york was hounding for his head, then he delivered... the man is a class act.

bigfog's picture

Firing the head coach is a terrible idea. Firing the offensive line coach and defensive coordinator on the other hand...

Stroh's picture

If by stale you mean winning consistently then I'll take that kinda stale any day! Dumbass.

Irish_Cheesehead's picture

The Pack started 1-2 last season and look how that turned out. All they did was win the North and make the playoffs.

showpan's picture

McKnight makes the most sense. Can cut a rookie WR from IR while we are at it and fill that void. There are plenty of exceptional WR's available right now.

Evan's picture

"Can cut a rookie WR from IR while we are at it and fill that void."

...huh?

NoWayJose's picture

Putting aside the fact that the entire league is disinterested in McKnight for some reason(s)... What's the story with McKnight and the Jets?

Do they have a dynamic returner now? I know their RBs are far from world-beating. Any known reason they cut him?

Evan's picture

Apparently he's a bit of a headcase.

PackerPete's picture

yes - arrived late for training camp. Failed his conditioning test, apparently dropping to his knees after 5 sprints and asking for water while cramping up. Was arrested for outstanding traffic violations, twice. once during training camp, once 3 days ago. he said he had a concussion, team doctors said he didn't. he missed multiple practices due to this "concussion". he then clashed with reporters who asked him about the concussion. overall a truly outstanding and upstanding citizen who would do great here in GB.

Adam's picture

This. Not to mention he just had a warrant for his arrest issued.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I really wish we could find a Trindon Holliday. Like the Broncos did last year.

mark's picture

There is a Trindon Holliday and his name is Chris Rainey.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I just saw he worked out for the Chiefs, and reportedly rand a 4.3 40.

Is he a PR?

I know he has a shady background so I don't see the Packers looking at him. But the guy's play on the field is intriguing.

Ma Linger's picture

TT is not spending a dime. What it is with the Pack fans don't they understand this team has no money. There are no deep pocket owners here who can backload contracts, play now pay later.
Why do you think we have all the undrafteds and 5,6,7th rounders? They're cheap!
TT said he will not back load any contract, its a pay as you go system.

Charlie M's picture

Is there a Ma Linger.com? If not could you make that happen please?

RC Packer Fan's picture

What would a free agent cost this time of year? basically minimum. If someone is available that he feels can help the team, he will sign him.

Dujuan Harris last year is a good example...

gbslapshot's picture

Chris Rainey was cut by the Steelers after being charged with beating his girlfriend. Packers will not touch him....no way...now how

Mojo's picture

Not thrilled with the thought of Cobb as the primary returner again. Sure you can get hurt playing receiver, but those punt-returners are in the crosshairs of those maniac special team gunners. We have three good receivers now but almost no depth if Boykins lack of PT is an indication. Can't lose Cobb, he's just too valuable.

jeremy's picture

How many players have the Packers lost on to injury punt returns? I don't remember any of the top of my head. Just curious...

Doug In Sandpoint's picture

No need for a punt returner. Just rush 11 every time and block every punt.

Fi crane's picture

Kick returner? 80% are out of the end zone. A herring can fill that spot. It's best to simply reduce the amount of times your kick off return team is on the field. That wins championships. Punt returner is a trickier thing no doubt.

A Herring's picture

Excuse me, good sir. Where can I submit my application?

flobarge's picture

classic

Stroh's picture

Did you miss the release of Ross over a mishandled Kickoff?! Apparently its quite a bit more than you think it is!

4htand1's picture

Holy MF er. Man how do some people even exist in their doom and gloom worlds. lmfao. Fire everyone! TT is a bum! MM sucks! Packers ARE an elite team. 2010 they were 1-2 and I'm sure you same people were writing them off.

JakeK's picture

2010 was ... well, 2010. ... To expect results to always remain the same are the expectations of a fool.

Besides, NO ONE has mentioned firing anyone except those who are against it. ... Quit making up stuff. ... Sounds like you're the one over-reacting.

Stroh's picture

Jake... And I quote "Both TT and MM have been in GB long enough. They both hit their peak a few years back. They’re both now stale and need to go home."

Sound a lot like you are suggesting they should be fired! Whats wrong can't read what you yourself wrote?!

Go away dumbass!

THEMichaelRose's picture

They started last year 1-2 after losing to two top non-divisional opponents (SF and SEA), the latter of which "should" have been a win, kind of like yesterday (depends on who you ask).

The Pack will be okay.

JakeK's picture

GB is 1-2 versus 3 teams whose combined record is 3-6 with both SF & Wash. looking like bottom dwellars. ... This is 2013. ... Not a continuation of any other year.

jim's picture

the combined records now of those teams might be 3-6, but you cannot tell me that you seriously believe that those three teams are going to continue that trend all season and end up with a combined record of 16-32. Taking a partial season sample is a total joke. you have to consider that the nfl is promoting its biggest contests in the beginning of the year for the publicity sake. both packer losses could have been wins. a few mistakes here and a few there and a win becomes a loss. add in the injury toll and you see a 4th quarter meltdown. this is a good packer team. it needs time to gel. rebuilding is for other teams, not this one.

KennyPayne's picture

Actually, in 2010 the Pack started the year 2-1.

Lou's picture

There is a new structure developing in regards to the roster 1. Cut those coming of serious injuries (Green - Bishop), 2. Cut those with below average size for their positions (D.J. Smith - Datko), 3. Cut those given ample time to improve who did not (D.J. Williams - Terrell Manning - Dezman Moses) and now Ross who was given full opportunity. Too bad, he had the size, toughness, and straight ahead speed but could not catch the ball under pressure, to use a baseball analogy, you can't steal first base.

Evan's picture

Datko is 6'6", 315.

The TKstinator's picture

If he were 6-7 and 316 he would have made the team.

Adam's picture

This brought me to lol's

Norman's picture

Stop bringing in facts to the argument!

Lou's picture

6'6" 315 but plays as "soft" as a marshmellow.

Evan's picture

Maybe...but that's not what you said. You said "below average size for his position."

Lou's picture

I stand corrected Evan.

Jake - State Farm's picture

You hit on one recurring theme. All the people you mentioned were late round picks or undrafteds that no one else wanted due to lack of skill, size and speed. Many were injury prone as well.
TT wants to play cheap ball under the guise 'we like to develop people'. Hey how about trading for some low number one picks, guys that contribute right away: Cahill, AP, Newton.
Our late round first are really mid round seconds at the very best but we took em.

Norman's picture

Vikings had 3 #1 picks this year, how's that working out for them? High draft picks don't guarantee a damn thing except a higher cap number than a lower pick. I'll stick with TT over the panicky, knee-jerk over-reactors who show up after each loss.

The TKstinator's picture

If you go back and look up the first round of each year's draft you'll notice there often seems to be little correlation between how early a player was picked and how successful he went on to be. Seriously! It's weird! Not uncommon at all for guys picked in the 20's to outperform guys picked in the top ten. See for yourselves.

Stroh's picture

Most players from about #20 thru about 50 are all similarly rated. That's the case almost every year. Perry and Sherrod both carried late 1st rd grades and were rated in the mid to late 20s overall in their draft class. Finding the guy that fits your scheme and can help the most is the difference outside the top 15-20 picks. Sherrod and Bulage were good picks, same w/ Perry. You just expect them to do too much early. Perry is making a difficult transition to OLB, but he's getting better at it every week. Sherrod would be starting now if not for his devastating injury. Same w/ Bulaga, but neither had any injury concerns leaving college. Bad luck. Perry btw is essentially a rookie right now in terms of playing experience.

Brooklyn81's picture

Good now activate Charles Johnson

aNEWpackersJERSEY's picture

+1 that sh@t!

Irish_Cheesehead's picture

That's more than likely what will happen. Franklin and Hyde on returns, activate Johnson. TT will not sign a returner. He likes the guys he has - and I'm fine with that.

Barry's picture

Remember when Cobb had the 103 yard kickoff return for a TD? The ST coach said Cobb had violated their return rules. I don't think our ST coach knows what in the heck he is doing. Every week there are ST blunders, every week ST coach "knows" who screwed up, every week he is very loud at practice and every week our ST teams make the fans very very nervous.

Part of the problem may have been Ross, but it also(mostly)is the ST coaching.

KurtMc's picture

legit question. Why do we need a Kickoff & Punt returner? Not sure of the %, but quite a lot of punt returns are penalized anyhow.

My two cents, put someone back who can catch it or get out of the way, Punt returns. Put an extra rusher on the punter make them make the mistake. Most punters when rushed cant focus or coffin corner kick it.

The kickoff has to go into the end zone, or kicking team is penalized by a favorable spot. I'd rather see Aaron start on the 20, than 5 any day.

Barutan Seijin's picture

If you don't try to return kickoffs, the other guys will kick it in front of you and you'll have to pick it up or let them retake possession.

Ma Linger's picture

Oh Please. Ross should have been one of the cuts in pre season. The writing was on that wall but Macarthy decided he needed someone. Funny we didnt draft someone.

Ross was slow, smallish and had poor hands.

Al Fresco's picture

I have that, haven't we heard this before scenario with the dept of the Packers in question?
If we lose a receiver were hurting. If Mathews is out were hurting. If Lacy is out were hurting. If we loose one O lineman were hurting.

Maybe the real problem is our last three drafts have not produced any playmakers. Perry - teams are running right at him. They've seen the game films and determined he is the weak link.
Datone - where is the pressure from his pass rush. Why is he on the bench most of the game? If Jolly has beat him out for playing time, another wasted draft pick.
Worthy - analyst said he was a bust and third rounder at the very best. He had done nada when he was healthy.
You cannot compete when you drafts are as bad as the packers, it catches up with you.
were 1-2 and face two tough opponents and we have a team of walking wounded by game three.

Cow 43's picture

Kinda hard to draft studs when we draft late in rounds. We've been fortunate to be so successful and not had to suffer many losing seasons. Although, we haven't had enough to get us over the hump to get to and win the BIG DANCE.
It's too early to say this season is a loss. There's lots of football left. But keep in mind, regardless of how this season turns out. This team will be drastically different next year. Likely 2 of 3 of the following will be gone to FA: Finley, Raji, Shields. Those will leave pretty big holes. As far as I'm concerned, it's win this year or wait for a few years to reload. Meaning you will be getting your stud draft picks over the next couple years as we slide toward the bottom half of the division. Not being a pessimist, but realist.

Ma Linger's picture

Franklin could have been a return guy since we weren't using him with Starks and Lacy delivering quality running. Apparently he sucked in training camp at it.

4thand1's picture

I think cow is jake, lol. My biggest concern is the same reoccurring injuries. Hamstring hamstring hamstring. When are we going to get a pass rusher opposite CM ?

JakeK's picture

Jamie ... Go - Away.

Breadman's picture

Quick Vikings sign Ross, there's another Packer reject for you.

JMiL's picture

Mcknight has a warrent out for his arrest for failing to appear.. highly unlikely TT signs him

MarkinMadison's picture

Hyde can return punts. He doesn't even need to split time with Cobb in critical situations. His biggest flaw as a punt returner is being conservative - just what you want in critical situations.

Using Hyde there leaves the Pack free to bring up a WR or RB, whichever they think they need more. Personally, I know I'll get killed for this, but Starks is awesome when healthy, but he is never healthy for long. I'd cut Starks if he will not be ready to go after the bye, bring up WR Johnson, and find a RB on the street.

JakeK is not Cow42. I saw Cow42 on the game blog this weekend. His name is weiner.

JakeK's picture

However, I always appreciated Cow. .. He was abit too emotional for me but a solid Packer fan nonetheless....

He has the same fear I have. ... The TT/MM/AR era is turning into another "fart in the wind" period in Packer history. ... Note: AR is not to blame.

Norman's picture

Just like the Manning era in Indy, the Young era in San Francisco, the Marino era in Miami (wait, they didn't win anything!). I guess if you don't win more Super Bowls than Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson, then what's the point huh?

JakeK's picture

Exactly.

Irish_Cheesehead's picture

I love how everyone thinks we can find these stud players out on the streets. LOL

RC Packer Fan's picture

I agree with mostly what you said.

Except you can't cut Starks now. If you were going to cut him, it would have been after training camp.

I like Lacy and Franklin, but you have to have 3 RB's that can play.

Starks on a snap count can be as effective as just about any RB in the league. Problem for him is staying healthy. So after he comes back I think they will use him on maybe 5-8 rushes a game at most...

Bibbon Hazel's picture

The Jake says, "mooooooo"

mudduckcheesehead's picture

Amen, Bibbon. Jake, Cow, Ma, et al. are all the same troll. Why are we feeding it...

#fartsmeller

WKUPackFan's picture

Field position is vitally important. Therefore, the KR and PR are equally important. I assume those calling for all kneel downs and fair catches are engaging in hyperbole. I for do not want to see the Pack starting from the 20 on every drive. That's why Masthay is such great weapon kicking off. Every kickoff should be out of the end zone if possible. However, every team does not have that weapon so the Pack needs an explosive returner.

The return game suffered for years in the post Allen Rossum era. Nightmares of Antonio Chatman linger. Combined with Longwell's inability to kickoff past the 10 yard line, field position both ways was a serious problem. When Cobb was drafted my first thought was "Our return problems are finally over". Now, two short years later, Cobb is deemed too inexpendable for a role where he is clearly the best option to help win games.

It's hard to disagree with not exposing Cobb to those extra hits. He is perhaps the most valuable offensive player besides AR. Hopefully someone else can fill the spot and bring some spark to the return game. However, at some point you have to play to win without the constant thought that injury may occur.

MarkinMadison's picture

"I assume those calling for all kneel downs and fair catches are engaging in hyperbole."

Note to Alanis Morissette: this is ironic.

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