Packers Question of the day - Rough Patch for Nick Perry, or Steady Decline?

It's becoming evident that the source of Nick Perry's production off the edge may have been a result of Clay Matthews being on the opposite end. Matthews has been praised for his ability to elevate the play of those around him, and this may be a prime example.

After a fast start to the season, Perry has fallen off in the last few games without Matthews. Is it time to begin rethinking about Perry's possible new contract in the offseason and instead, think about cutting ties with the fifth-year linebacker?

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Handsback's picture

November 16, 2016 at 09:06 am

Solid but nothing special. Another first round guy that can contribute, but never a going to the pro bowl.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 16, 2016 at 09:11 am

Hello....Hello....Has someone and others come to their senses?

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Razer's picture

November 16, 2016 at 09:24 am

I expected a lot more from Perry. Between availability and inconsistency he has not lived up to his first round selection. Maybe that is what you get at the bottom of the first because Datone Jones is following in the same footsteps.

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Big_Mel_75's picture

November 17, 2016 at 09:31 am

Or cause TT loves his west coast players and over values them....

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Ferrari Driver's picture

November 16, 2016 at 09:30 am

Guys like Perry, Jones, and Clark who are all first round draft choices by the Packers are about what you can expect when you are in the playoffs year after year.

The difference makers are generally found in the top half of the college draft, not the bottom. Just like the games we played in grammar school when the two best players at the school yard took turn picking players for a game of softball.

A few years at the bottom of the barrel and we can draft a Von Miller or Elliott. like the Broncos and Cowboys have done.

I suffered with the Packers during down years and will likely have to do it again...damn it!

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croatpackfan's picture

November 16, 2016 at 09:32 am

Well, it is correctly to say that opponents double team him, and that they are avoid running to his side... But I already said that his production depends on to being left one on one, which is case when Clay is on the field!

Very good, but not excellent player. Surely he should have place in Packers defense, but not for prime money!

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Horse's picture

November 16, 2016 at 09:35 am

Aside from possibly Von Miller, in a highly interdependent team sport that's missing a key cog, other players will be affected. Is anyone absolutely sure they know exactly what Perry's assignment is on every play and that it doesn't ever change no matter which other players are and are not on the field?

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 16, 2016 at 09:35 am

Without Mathews teams are sliding the Protection more towards Perry.

The truth is Mathews draws the attention of offenses. Teams have to try and stop him first. It creates openings for others to make plays.

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dobber's picture

November 16, 2016 at 09:43 am

Does anyone have the blitz % over the last couple weeks? It's been my impression that DC has gone conservative to try to cover up his depleted secondary, but I might be way off base. In that circumstance you would expect the effectiveness of your pass rushers to take a major hit...add the loss of CMIII to that, and it gets worse.

Whatever the case, this defense needs to come out in attack mode this week against Washington. Something's gotta change. You can sit back and be torn apart by big plays, or you can attack like crazy and run the risk of getting torn apart by big plays (but have the opportunity to MAKE some big plays). Turn it loose, DC: it can't get worse, right?

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Tundraboy's picture

November 16, 2016 at 10:19 am

Agree. I have yet to see where sitting back has not led to big plays, especially with us. Cant hurt anymore than last week did. Right?

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Packer_Pete's picture

November 16, 2016 at 10:00 am

He is a solid player. Problem is, most Packers defenders are not. I think McGinn got this right:
"Nick Perry (39), the best player on defense all season, was the best again Sunday. In some ways, the Titans ran away from Perry. Their run game was tilted heavily behind RT Jack Conklin, and when Kyler Fackrell (29) or Datone Jones (39, 28 at OLB) were on the play side they often were shoved up the field, hooked or covered up. Perry set a heavy-handed edge, as usual. When his responsibility is over, he clears his feet, sifts or slams through trash and often assists in the tackle.'

I've said it before, and I say it again: Who do opposing OCs have to plan for? Daniels and Perry, at the moment. Peppers certainly doesn't scare anyone anymore. Jones, Fackrell, Elliott? All inexperienced or simply not that good. Anybody else on the DL? Certainly not. So yes, while Matthews, IMHO, is overrated, he is also the only one who could provide a n additional worry for other teams. That's simply not good enough. And then, just control Perry and Daniels and have your way with the Packers D as teams did the last few games...

The problem is not Perry!

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Bearmeat's picture

November 16, 2016 at 12:25 pm

.... which once again leads us back to the "Is Nick Perry a blue chip player?" question. I think now that he's healthy, and not protected by CM3, the answer is pretty clear.

No. He's not a blue-chip player who is capable of altering games on his own. HOWEVER, I think it's just as clear that he is a very good piece who should be paid well. Perhaps not top 10 money for his position. But maybe top 25, considering both his ability to be a good complementary piece and his injury history.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 16, 2016 at 01:38 pm

Geez....it must be windy on top of the fence in which you perch yourself with this yet again swing of assessment of Perry.
Perhaps you will be so kind as to respond to my questions I pose about Perry.

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packerbackerjim's picture

November 16, 2016 at 10:49 am

I was ecstatic when the Packers drafted Perry and disappointed at his play on the field when he was able to overcome his injuries. A pretty good 2015 season, his contract year. Again, this year and his results are mixed. Bottom line is he never reached his potential. The Packers never seem to get to the develop part of the equation. There have been exceptions, particularly in the UDFAs, but never maximizing their 1st rounders outside of CM3.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 16, 2016 at 12:35 pm

Would you figure the likely missed time of Matthews into the money you give Perry based on his disappearing as a pass rusher when Matthews is out?
How much less would you give Perry basing it on him only for his run defense?
Would you get into a bid war for Perry to keep him based on either of the previous questions?
Do you feel any of Jones, Eliot, Fackrell can offset the loss of Perry?

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 16, 2016 at 03:16 pm

Brave to dislike with anonymity and no guts to actually answer. Bravo....you make my point.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 16, 2016 at 03:30 pm

I get sick of that too...
I wish the dislike button would show who disliked the comments.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 16, 2016 at 10:24 pm

Pressure/snap:
1) Peppers: 1 pressure every 18.36 snaps; (14 in 257 snaps)
2) D. Jones: 1 pressure every 18.42 snaps; (12 in 221 snaps)
3) N. Perry: 1 pressure every 19.38 snaps; (19.5 in 378 snaps)
4) Daniels: 1 pressure every 19.50 snaps; (16 in 312 snaps)
5) Matthews:pressure every 25.47 snaps; (7.5 in 191 snaps)

In attempting to give context to these stats, I would suggest that OLBs are meant to be the stars in most 3-4 defenses, and that it is harder to register pressures from the DL than it is from OLB in this defense. I would thus suggest that Daniels is our best pass rusher, followed by Peppers and Jones, both of whom played a significant amount of snaps as inside pass rushers as well as at OLB. [Perry and Daniels are better against the run than Jones or Peppers, though, IMO.]

GB’s blitz percentage is the lowest ever since Capers became DC in 2009 at 23.6%. Thus, sacks and pressures logically might be understandably lower. GB had 14 sacks in the first 4 games and just 7 in the next 4 games (and 26 TFL in the first 4 games versus just 7 in the next 4 games). The decline in sacks corresponds to CM3’s absence (perhaps some synergy?) and also more or less to the decline in health at CB. One might also take into account the quality of the offensive lines faced in games 1-4 vs. 5-8.

Perry's production has greatly declined. Perry had 14 of his 19.5 pressures in the first 4 games (1 pressure every 13.86 snaps) and 5.5 pressures in the next 4 games (1 pressure every 33.45 snaps). Peppers has a mere 4 tackles so far this season, which is somewhat concerning.

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