Packers Question of the day - MVP; who is it?

Between Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan and Tom Brady, it's almost impossible to choose who should accept the NFL's prestigious award. Let's narrow it down.

Brady's Patriots went 3-1 without him at the helm, and ultimately helped solidify the notion that Bill Belichick and the New England offense is, for the most part, a system that has helped Brady succeed over the years. At least, that's the popular thought.

Meanwhile, Ryan has helped the Falcons' offense soar high above the clouds at historic levels, but with Julio Jones and a well-oiled running game, how much has Ryan really contributed? Regardless, it would be down-right moronic to ignore how well Ryan has performaned.

Then, there's Rodgers. On paper, the first half of his 2016 campaign was just fine with no signs of deterioration in his performance. On film, Rodgers was missing textbook throws that he would normally make in his sleep. He started the first half of the season completing 63.19% of his passes, throwing for 20 touchdowns and five interceptions. Nothing out of the ordinary, right? His second half, however, defied all doubters as his Packers ran the table en route to what may have been his best performance at the quarterback position of his career.

Who's your vote?

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Zachary Jacobson is a staff writer/reporter for Cheesehead TV. He's the voice of The Leap on iTunes and can be heard on The Scoop KLGR 1490 AM every Saturday morning. He's also a contributor on the Pack-A-Day Podcast. He can be found on Twitter via @ZachAJacobson or contacted through email at [email protected].

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Gforcetrivers's picture

January 05, 2017 at 09:16 am

Would really like to see Arod but Ryan is a good case.
Brady should not be considered just on the whole suspension thing.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

January 05, 2017 at 01:38 pm

If it weren't for the six touchdown drops in the endzone Aaron Rodgers would have won the NFL MVP hands down. He should have had 51 total TD's this year.

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SpudRapids's picture

January 06, 2017 at 09:35 am

Rodgers accounted for over 80% of the Packers scoring whereas Ryan accounted for 60 something. That was the big stat for me

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egbertsouse's picture

January 05, 2017 at 09:27 am

I would have said Derek Carr before he got hurt. I still might, look how the Raiders suck without him.

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SpudRapids's picture

January 06, 2017 at 09:34 am

Then don't post

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SpudRapids's picture

January 06, 2017 at 09:34 am

I'm guilty of trolling you today but you incoherent negativity deserves it

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RocsCave's picture

January 05, 2017 at 09:40 am

The criteria, which includes many things, are seen and rated/valued differently by those who vote and the fans alike.
Where would each players team be without them and could the backup have achieved same or close results?
Did this player carry the team through its short comings and huge impacts of player loss?
Did this player play above his average or above what has already been a constant resetting of a bar dictated by him?
Is it more his team mates rise in play or him simply rising them and himself to achieve better?
Naturally stats come in to play and other questions but whatever they may be or how mine were answered, it's likely the award will go to the new one hit wonder Matt Ryan as Rodgers and Brady, don't share the media love that Manning did to oblige with another. Even if both are more deserving than the new kid to the parade.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 05, 2017 at 09:53 am

IMO, the top 2 players for MVP are Rodgers and Ryan. I hold Brady back simply for the fact that they went 3-1 in the time he was out.

Comparison of rankings for QB's with 200+ passes.

Rodgers finished 4th in passing yards. 9th in completion percentage. 1st in TD's. 4th in Rating.

Ryan finished 2nd in passing yards. 3rd in completion percentage. 2nd in TD's. 1st in Rating.

By those numbers Ryan is better.

But add in Rodgers has 4 rushing TD's, Ryan has 0. They both have 7 interceptions.
Rodgers has 369 rushing yards.
Ryan has 117 rushing yards.

Now compare their TD's to the team's offensive TD's.

Rodgers has 44 total TD's and his team has 51 total.

Ryan has 38 total TD's and his team has 63.

Rodgers makes up for 86% of the teams TD's..
Ryan makes up for 60% of the teams TD's...

Also compare the QB's Rushing yards to the Teams Rushing yards.
Rodgers has 369 rushing yards, and the Packers had 1701 rushing yards.
Ryan has 117 rushing yards, and the Falcons had 1928 rushing yards.

Rodgers rushed for 21% of the Packers rushing yards.
Ryan rushed for 6% of the Falcons rushing yards.

IMO, Rodgers does more for his team then Ryan does for his.

That is why I believe Rodgers deserves the MVP.

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L's picture

January 05, 2017 at 10:15 am

A good statistical look at the two candidates that I also figure are the two prime candidates battling for the league MVP award, but I'll side with M.Ryan as the winner.

- The Falcons offense and his play have been consistently good all year long which was not the case with the Packers.

- The Falcons have a better record and playoff seed.

- The Falcons defense has been consistently bad all year long which required the offense to carry the team where as the Packers defense started the year playing fairly well and helped carry the team thanks to a sputtering offense, but that was before the D torpedoed and become crazy bad; however, they did recover enough to end the season on a better note despite the rash of defensive back injuries.

IMO, the fact that Rodgers is even considered the runner-up and narrowly losing this award to M.Ryan is a credit to his superior level of play the last six games that have greatly bolstered his overall numbers; otherwise, IMO this would have been a run away for M.Ryan.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 05, 2017 at 10:46 am

I appreciate your opinion!

I can see Ryan winning it. I think in the eyes of others, he is the front runner for it.

The part that I disagree with, is about the consistency of the offenses. I agree that the Packers offense haven't been as consistent as the Falcons. But IMO that shouldn't be a negative for Rodgers. It means his team has had more stuff to overcome, and Rodgers had to overcome more.

Ryan has had a consistent running game all season. Falcons ranked 5th in rushing yards per game. Packers 20th. The Falcons 2nd leading rusher (Coleman) has 63 more rushing yards then the Packers leading rusher (Montgomery).
Packers are down to a WR converted to RB, a FB playing RB, and a RB they picked up late in the year as the main options.

And like Zach pointed out in the first half of the season Rodgers still put up really good numbers. 20 TD's and 5 INT's. 2nd half of the season he has 20 TD's and 2 INT's. While the team wasn't as good, Rodgers played better then what most perceive him to have played.

I think Ryan will win it. I just think that the Most Valuable Player is Rodgers.

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NickPerry's picture

January 06, 2017 at 05:34 am

AWESOME breakdown RC... Quick, get this circulated to all the voters because it's all there in black and white.

If you look at the award and what it stands for, at least to me Rodgers should be the winner. There's not another player who does more than Rodgers does for the Packers, there's no one more "Valuable". Take Rodgers off this team and you have what, 4-12..maybe? Rodgers doesn't have a running game or defense to carry the team, it's Rodgers. Throw in Ryan plays 8 games in a Dome without any elements from mother nature plus another in New Orleans and he SHOULD put up numbers. No wind, rain, snow....

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Bearmeat's picture

January 05, 2017 at 10:07 am

I'd be very surprised if it's not Ryan this year. ARod gets OPOY. Similar to 2011 with ARod and Brees.

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al bundy's picture

January 05, 2017 at 11:18 am

Bree's gets a lot of garbage miles. He is throwing every play because his team is behind in almost every game and he is throwing inside, not in 10 degree weather and wind conditions. Rogers would have 6,000 yards in that environment so Bree's is not in the picture at all and neither is Brady.

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Ferrari Driver's picture

January 05, 2017 at 10:33 am

At this point in time, no one is more valuable to their team than Rodgers and at this time, no one is playing to his level of excellence.

Hope it doesn't go to Brady.

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Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

January 05, 2017 at 10:42 am

I always look first at surrounding talent. If you don't, you're just choosing the best stats-stuffer, not the guy Most Valuable to his team's performance.

Compared to Atlanta and New England, Green Bay is a train wreck. Lousy defense. Terrible running game. Injuries everywhere.

Put Rodgers on the Falcons and they're undefeated. Put Ryan on the Packers and they MIGHT win 4 games.

No contest. Ryan will win because most writers just vote on stats, but Rodgers should win by a mile. Honestly, my 2nd-place guy would be David Johnson of the Cardinals.

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al bundy's picture

January 05, 2017 at 11:15 am

I felt the same as you. Matter of fact the year AP won I thought why, he had a ton of yards but took the team nowhere and Rogers had a team of injuries to overcome and went to the playoffs.
However, I read as posted here, that they do not consider what your saying. Its really performance statistics. Otherwise I agree Rogers wins going away.
Rogers did not perform that great in the beginning of the season and Ryan was consistently good, maintained a strong year and actually out performed Rogers his last five games so in fairness, its the entire season we have to consider.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 05, 2017 at 01:56 pm

It's easy for me. Ryan is the only one who had a complete season. Rodgers came in under prepared and complaining about the preseason publicly. Brady is cheater who was suspended for four games (Even if you think Goodell is a ass hat, Brady still looked very guilty.)

I'm relieved Rodger's didn't win. If he brings the same "I above preparation" attitude into next season I'm going to lose it. He's playing well now and deserves credit for it, but it does not change the past.

Go ahead and homer down vote me, IDC...

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al bundy's picture

January 05, 2017 at 11:11 am

Read a very in dept analysis, player by player with stats to boot and in the end the author showed that while Rogers had a very good last five games, Ryan also had a better five games and that Rogers was not that effective in the first few games of the season so his winner going away was Ryan for MVP and Rogers for Best Offensive Player of the Year.
He felt that there should be a diff for the two awards and the MVP did not automatically get both. I agree.

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zeke's picture

January 06, 2017 at 08:01 am

Did the "in dept" analysis spell his name correctly, at least? Idiot.

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Lphill's picture

January 05, 2017 at 02:17 pm

Matt Ryan plays no less than 9 games a year in domes , Rodgers carried the Packers on one good leg and even on 2 bad legs and played in 2 dome games . I of course would go with Rodgers.

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Since'61's picture

January 05, 2017 at 05:55 pm

I think that the voters will go with Ryan because he played well all season. Early in the season Rodgers play was erratic, at least for Rodgers. However he had 5 or 6 TD passes dropped which if caught would make his numbers totally outrageous. I could argue for Rodgers based on his playing nearly his entire schedule outdoors plus he played through at least 2 injuries this season. However, I'm not sure if the voters take those factors into account. IMO Rodgers should be the MVP but it will probably go to Ryan. Thanks, Since '61

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sonomaca's picture

January 05, 2017 at 06:31 pm

It's going to be Ryan. Fact is, Falcons beat the Pack head-to-head, and that's the tiebreaker.

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Bert's picture

January 05, 2017 at 07:36 pm

How about Zeke Elliott? Julio Jones? Not sure why the MVP has to be a QB?

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SpudRapids's picture

January 06, 2017 at 09:33 am

This is a baseless claim... the defense gave up 38 points a game during that streak. I guess it is Rodgers' fault that he doesn't play defense too

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SpudRapids's picture

January 06, 2017 at 12:15 pm

I'll quote the journal sentinel:

"Through Week 10, the Packers have gone three-and-out on 18.9 percent of their possessions, a respectable clip ranked eighth in the NFL and not far removed from their better years with Rodgers."

Try again

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dobber's picture

January 06, 2017 at 10:18 am

This would likely only matter if they lost 4 games at or toward the end of the season and it cost them a playoff berth. The Packers averaged almost 27 ppg during that stretch and Rodgers had a line of 1265 yd, 12 TD and 3 Int over those games, and ran for 163 yd and 1 TD at a 10 ypc clip. When you're scoring 27 points, you should be winning, so how exactly was this HIS fault, again?

The team finished out strong, won a bunch in a row (as they needed to do)...in the long run, it won't matter if those 4 losses were consecutive or split up over those first 10 games. If anything, it adds to the mystique of the finish.

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