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Packers Daily Links: James Jones Bemoans Lack of Respect

In an article about the abundance of talent at the receiver position for the Green Bay Packers by Paul Imig at Fox Sports Wisconsin, James Jones took the opportunity to bemoan his perceived lack of respect. "I still don't get no respect around here, though," Jones is quoted as saying. "That's why, in all my interviews, I'm just going to start saying ‘Respect.' Get me some shirts made." Jones also talks about the frustration all the receivers and even quarterback Aaron Rodgers feel with such a deep group of pass catchers, and that's understandable. But Jones' comments about not being respected come off as sour grapes. Jones tested the free agent market last year and got little interest. The Packers showed him among the most respect in the NFL, albeit for a modest amount of money in a limited role. If Jones wants more respect, he needs to earn it by catching more passes.

Defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove claimed his innocence regarding "Bountygate" in a speech given outside NFL headquarters in New York on Tuesday. "Former New Orleans Saints and current Green Bay Packers defensive end Anthony Hargrove says it's not his voice saying 'Give me the money' in a video used by the NFL as evidence in its investigation of the Saints' bounty program," reports the Associated Press. As stated here almost every day, this story is far from over. Stay tuned. New developments occur almost daily.

The complete text of Anthony Hargrove's statement to the press is published at CBSSports.com.

Both the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and the Green Bay Press-Gazette asked the NFL for their comment on Anthony Hargrove's statement and both got essentially the same response from spokesman Greg Aiello: "We stand by the findings of our investigation."

In response to news that defensive lineman Johnny Jolly has applied for reinstatement to the NFL after being released from prison on probation, Rob Demovsky of the Press-Gazette asked for comment from the Packers. "A team spokesman said Tuesday the Packers wouldn’t comment on a report that Jolly last week asked Goodell to end his indefinite suspension for violating the league’s substance abuse policy," writes Demovsky. The Packers probably won't comment until Jolly is officially reinstated, and as of this moment, we have no timeline as to when a decision on Jolly's future will be made.

It was only a tweet, but television reporter Lance Allan of WTMJ in Milwaukee paraphrased Packers president Mark Murphy commenting on Johnny Jolly in an unaired interview: "Clearly Murphy defers all personnel matters to Thompson, but Murphy indicates Jolly should get his life straight before any talk of playing."

In an unintentional point/counterpoint, Mike Vandermause of the Press-Gazette says Jolly deserves a second chance with the Packers while Bill Huber of Packer Report says Green Bay should pass.

Former Packers general manager Ron Wolf made what's sure to be a controversial comment in an interview published at PackersNews.com. "When I got here, Don Huston was the greatest player ever to play for the Green Bay Packers," said Wolf. "I think everybody will tell you now, the greatest player ever to play for the Packers is Brett Favre." I acknowledge Favre was great, but I'm not sure I'm willing to name the player who threw the most interceptions in NFL history as the best player in Packers history.

Alex Green talks about his recovery from a knee injury and his future with the Packers in a blog post at JSOnline.

Mark Murphy also shot down any rumors about his interest in the Stanford athletic director job in comments made to WTMJ's Lance Allan.

A column about the Packers using their linebacker-heavy "Psycho" defensive package is written by Chad Toporski at AllGreenBayPackers.com.

The biggest regression and improvement in Green Bay is touched upon by Kevin Seifert of ESPN.com in a blog post.

Video: From ESPN, Anthony Hargrove speaks to reports in New York City...

Brian Carriveau is a writer for Cheesehead TV. To contact Brian, email carriveau@uwalumni.com.

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mark's picture

Time to go James Jones.

I hate these sorts of comments, I really do. We just came off a 15-1 season, and won a Super Bowl the year before. Why complain? Where's the problem? It's a TEAM game and your TEAM is winning more games than anyone else in football.

I don't hear these sorts of complaints from Jennings, Nelson, Driver or Cobb. And of that group, it's Jones who's had the abundance of critical drops in key situations. I'm not saying Jones is a bad WR. In fact, quite the contrary, I think he's good. But I think Diondre Borel might be just as good.

Go get your "respect" somewhere else James Jones. Meanwhile, we'll be in Titletown putting rings on our goddamn thumbs ;)

markinmontana's picture

I think what JJ said was pretty mild on the wide-receiver-ego scale. As far as the other recievers, I definitely have heard mild complaints about getting the ball from Jennings and Driver in the past (and thought it was not big deal). It's just a matter of time before Cobb and Nelson make similar mild complaints- that's just the nature of the position. JJ would be a solid number two on most teams, and I think we're lucky to have him.

Brooklyn81's picture

Finley does too so I agree with you

Rocky70's picture

Here we go again. A fan who thinks a PS WR is as good as a veteran who has caught 17 TDs (with limited opportunities) in the last 3 seasons. (Last I looked, Borel has yet to catch an NFL pass)

Please, this is about 'real football', not a video game.

mark's picture

Here we go again, with you dismissing the potential and ability of practice squad players, while conveniently ignoring the fact that the Packers acquired a back to back 1,200 yard rusher off a practice squad.

PackersRS's picture
mark's picture

I think there's a difference between Jennings' and Jones' comments. Both in terms of the source, the timing, and what's being said.

markinmontana's picture

I'm not sure why the timing of Jones' comments are worse. It seems that some off-the-cuff comments in the middle of June are about as harmless as you can get. As far as the source, I have never seen or heard any indication in the past that Jones is an arrogant or otherwise bad-character guy. I think some fans are still hung up on the fact that he had a string of drops at an inconvenient time a few years ago.

PackersRS's picture

You aware that it wasn't exactly Jennings' comments the problem, it was that he threw temper tantrums in the sidelines during the Was loss.

He was barking at his coaches. I don't see how that's less aggravating than what Jones said.

And I don't see the big deal in either. If 53 players are happy after not winning it all, then there's something really wrong with the team.

EinEC's picture

Gotta Respect the Alphabet song. Respect!

FITZCORE1252's EVO's picture

Why the Hell would #12 be frustrated about the number of receivers he has? Seems to me all those options are a good problem to have, there's probably 28-30 QB's in the league that would like those problems.

And Brian, you were right on with how JJ can "earn" respect, couldn't have said it better.

GBP 4 LIFE

Evan's picture

I'm sure being charged with trying to keep all of those guys happy and satisfied is not an enjoyable position to be in. But, yeah, it's a good problem to have.

Tarynfor12's picture

Since you agreed with Brian and the 'catch the ball more' to earn respect,how do feel about DDs respect.

DD-409 pass plays
54 throws to
37 recs

JJ-375 pass plays
54 throws to
38 recs
I think he feels being in more pass plays is the respect looking for and I agree.
Plus,his drop % was less than Drivers also.

Brian Carriveau's picture

Can you provide a link to where you saw Driver's drop percentage was higher than Jones'? I was looking for that the other day.

Tarynfor12's picture

Actually Brian,the stats posted are from a Jersey AL post of 'DD makes good on promise' on May30 and the drop % was quoted by Oppy on June 4 post of 'Show me the Money.Both are under WR articles at ALs site.
I used these as reference since they are highly regarded to their getting facts.

PackersRS's picture

I posted those numbers on Jersey Al's site.

Here it is: http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/receiving-catch-rate

Brian Carriveau's picture

I'm not sure those stats at teamrankings.com are an accurate measurement of drop rate. I can't find an exact definition anywhere, but it just appears catch rate is the rate of catches among the amount of times a player was targeted. That doesn't take into effect when an incompletion is the quarterback's fault, such as an off-target pass or one that was purposely thrown incomplete.

CSS's picture

Brian, the Pro Football Focus article Taryn is referencing above does parse out 'drop rate':

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/17/drop-rate-2011-which-rec...

Brian Carriveau's picture

Thanks, perfect. That's what I'm looking for.

Tarynfor12's picture

Try this Brian.
Link isn't pasting.
ProFootballFocus,1-17-12
Who's dropping the ball.

FITZCORE1252's EVO's picture

Donald catches the ball when it matters. And that's all that matters to me as every receiver is going to have drops.

JJ dropped a 70ish yard walk-in TD in the SB, QB #1 couldn't have handed it to him in a better place. If he makes that routine catch we're not biting our nails as Ben has the ball in his hands with 2 min to go.

JJ dropped a 70ish yard walk-in TD in the playoffs against Philly, QB #1 couldn't have handed it to him in a better place. If he makes that routine catch... We're not biting our nails as Vick goes to the endzone when Tramon bailed us out.

It's not the # of drops for me, it's the timing of them that pisses me off. I'm rooting for JJ, always have, but when the whole nation is watching, he repeatedly shits his pants... Gets kinda old. Donald doesn't, look at his last two playoff games against the giants... Actually, in the first matchup he "caught" a 70-80 yarder for a TD down the sideline, almost identical to the one JJ "dropped" in philly. And we were lethargic in that game, DD gave us a spark... He knew what time it was. And the last matchup, DD was easily our most clutch offensive player, and I don't care who he was running his routes against, he caught the ball, when the lights were on, because he knew what time it was.

MarkinMadison's picture

Exactly brah. Who showed up last January against the Giants? DD laid it out there, and the rest of the WRs just seemed to lay down. I get that JJ is a talented guy. I get that he could play a larger role on a different team. But nobody wanted him when he hit the FA market. I know it was an unusual year, but the number of quality WRs in the NFL is just staggering. The truth is that JJ needs more cool under fire. Some guys have it, and some guys don't. Can't teach it. He either finds it, or he will be out of the NFL in less than three years.

PackersRS's picture

I really don't get how 3 receptions being covered by a LB is "showing up".

FITZCORE1252's EVO's picture

" and I don’t care who he was running his routes against, he caught the ball"...

He did what he was asked to do. What's so hard to understand about that?

JJ had corners on him when he dropped the ball in the two instances I listed. Wouldn't have mattered if it were Linebackers covering him or Deon... Because he didn't do what he was asked to do, which was... Catch the ball. Pretty simple.

Beep's picture

Hopefully Hargrove gets after QB's better than his public speaking ability.

Jamie's picture

I think some of you are taking Jones' comments as directed toward the organization, when it's fairly evident he's directing them toward the media and fans. I agree with him in that regard.

wgbeethree's picture

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. Reading comprehension..... it's a beautiful thing.

FITZCORE1252's EVO's picture

I totally get that. I respect JJ, I just don't trust him.

CSS's picture

I feel for Jones. He's been peppered by questions and rumors since signing his extension with the Packers. Seems like he prepares as well as anybody else and shows up to play. Can't say I would express myself the way he did, but listening to the rumor and innuendo has to get old for the guy.

wgbeethree's picture

It's sad to see that Ron Wolf has taken to drinking so heavily in his retirement. :-(

FITZCORE1252's EVO's picture

Like.

Mojo's picture

Alright, this post cries out for some Rodney Dangerfield references. So in honor of the late great King of the One-liners (it wasn't really Henny Youngman) here are some remarks I've overheard James Jones spouting:

"I met the surgeon general, he offered me a cigarette!"

"I walked in on my wife and the milkman, the first thing she says is "don't tell the butcher"!"

"I'll tell ya, I don't get no respect... The other day, I got back from a business trip. I got in a cab and said to the driver, "Hey! Take me to where the action is!" So ya know where he took me? He took me to my house!"

"I told my doctor I wanna stop aging, he gave me a gun!"

"Do ya remember the first time you had sex? I do, and boy, was I scared! I was alone!"

Cole's picture

"I tell ya my wife loves to talk to me during sex, she always calls me from the hotel!"

Rip

woodson4president's picture

When JJ has played as many seasons as DD and had as much success then u can compare the two players until then the drop% doesnt matter....

FITZCORE1252's EVO's picture

Yep.
When JJ has played as many 'productive/consistent' seasons as DD, you may use JJ's name in the same sentence...
Totally agree Wood.

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