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Packers Calendar: Jadeveon Clowny & South Carolina Pro Day on TV

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Packers Calendar: Jadeveon Clowny & South Carolina Pro Day on TV

Wednesday features several interesting pro days, but none more so than South Carolina, which will feature Jadeveon Clowney, who may perhaps become the NFL's No. 1 overall draft choice.

There will be several other players also working out, but it will be Clowney that gets the lion's share of the attention.

NFL Network and ESPN will both provide live coverage starting at 10:00 a.m. CT and will be among 123 credentialed members of the media covering the event, according to Josh Kendall of GoGamecocks.com.

For a player measuring 6' 5" and 266 lbs., Clowney wowed onlookers at the NFL Combine by running the 40-yard dash in 4.53 seconds, as well as having an impressive vertical (37.5 inches) and broad jump (124 inches).

Clowney did not, however, participate in position drills, which is where most of the focus will be on Thursday. NFL scouts, coaches and personnel types may want to see him take part in linebacker drills for those than run a 3-4 scheme.

Even if Clowney drops in the NFL Draft, it's highly unlikely the Green Bay Packers will have either the ammunition or the inclination to trade up and grab him. But they may have interest in several other players from South Carolina.

Also working out on are quarterback Connor Shaw, wide receiver Bruce Ellington, defensive linemen Kelcy Quarles and Chaz Sutton and a few more. The Packers do not publish a list of pro days where they will have representatives, but it's a good bet they'll be in Columbia, S.C. on Tuesday.

Other pro days taking place on Wednesday include those at Tennessee, Washington and North Texas. With several good prospects from those respective universities, it wouldn't be a surprise if the Packers will be there too.

In the evening hours, Packers running back DuJuan Harris will co-host his weekly podcast on BWD Radio's station on the BlogTalkRadio network. The show starts at 8:00 p.m. CT.

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Evan's picture

"Even if Clowney drops in the NFL Draft, it's highly unlikely the Green Bay Packers will have either the ammunition or the inclination to trade up and grab him."

I think they certainly have the ammunition to move up and get him if they wanted (1st and 2nd this year, next year's 1st as a starting point), but it would be a king's ransom - not worth it.

DrealynWilliams's picture

If we had a dominant DL I think it would be worth it. But since we don't,building around him in a 3-4 would make no sense. That's why I feel Houston (my hometown) would be making a huge mistake by passing on the opportunity of having a Watt + Clowney duo. They went from SB favorites to a 2-14 season. Ouch.

Evan's picture

I agree it'd be hard for Houston to pass up on Clowney...but, man, they're not going anywhere without a QB.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Call me crazy,but I kind of like Keenum. He showed a few Drew Brees-like traits. Aye,the Ravens did it that year against the Giants. The Bucs did it against the Raiders.

Birney the baker's picture

I am calling you crazy Dra!! Yo, what up!! It's me Tom Birney!! You crazy man. Drew Brees? No way dude!!

ben's picture

I'm a bit of a Keenum fan too. I saw him compete and do some really good things.

But Drew Brees things? maybe, maybe not

No way I take any QB this year #1. I'd take Khalil Mack, maybe Clowney, or trade out.

DrealynWilliams's picture

I'm not saying he's a franchise QB. I'm not saying he's Drew Brees. I'm saying he has a trait or two that Drew also has. He energized that team. He hates throwing the ball away. His small stature and ability to run around and escape defenders is much like Brees. That defense lost majority of them games.

I think we all agree on not taking a QB #1 this year's draft.

BradHTX's picture

Drealyn, didn't know you were in Houston too. Ever watch games with Cheddarhead Pack at Nick's?

DrealynWilliams's picture

Of course. Lambeau South.

BradHTX's picture

Cool, let's try to have a beer together some time!

RC Packer Fan's picture

You are correct Evan. If the Packers desperately wanted him. They could find a way to go up and get him.

But everything they would have to give up for him wouldn't be worth it.

BubbaOne's picture

What I found surprising was the combine numbers small school prospect Marvin Webster 6'6" 252 had comparable to Jadeveon Clowney's.

Clowney's #'s: 6'5 266, 21 (reps), 4.53(40), 37.5(vert), 124(broad), 7.27(3-cone)

Webster's #'s: 6'6 252, 17(reps), 4.58(40), 36.5(vert), 123(broad), 7.29(3-cone)

I loved when 6' 7" Ted Hendricks (The Mad Stork) played and would like to see a tall OLB and situational DL rusher on the team. Webster's father played 11 yrs in the NFL so he has the pedigree. He's only played two years of football...some at TE...b/c he played 4 yrs on the basketball team. Rumor has it they like him more at TE. Or maybe he's this year's Spencer Havner. Does anyone have any thoughts on him?

ben's picture

yea, Who the hell is Marvin Webster?

Stroh's picture

He got the 1st name wrong. Its Larry Webster. Marvin Webster play in the NBA. Was a 7' Center, most notably w/ the NY Knicks. Easy mistake.

Birney the baker's picture

Of course like the dickhead you are you had to point out he was "wrong" but to save your ass from people really going after you, you then downplay it by saying "easy mistake" giving poor BubbaOne a nice pat on the back for trying to be as good as you but failing to be perfect. Bottom line was there was no need to butt in and correct the guy or even bring up the fact he got the first name wrong. Nobody effin cares but you couldn't help yourself once again could you? Just like with 4th and one and Ben V. He had a great post and you in a few short words had to somehow minimize his great post because of pure jealousy. Nice going Strohkinoff!!

Birney the baker's picture

Bubbaone, excellent post!! Now I think you possibly hit on something. Webster is just the type of guy TT would go after. Someone of similar size but much less known but could be a great value pick. TT will take players like this and roll the dice. Nice info.

Tom Birney "the baker"

BubbaOne's picture

I did have the 1st name wrong.

...and you're right I'm looking for the lesser known players that TT will find in the weeds. 13% of draft picks aren't at the combine; on avg that's four picks each round. Like I could see TT bringing in Beau Allen as a 7th rounder/UDFA.

Here's more re Webster's bloodlines: his father, Larry Webster Jr., played 11 years in the NFL at defensive end. He was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the third round out of Maryland in 1992 and also suited up for the Browns, Ravens and Jets over his career, winning a Super Bowl with Baltimore in 2001.

JimTaylor31's picture

Tough call for Houston. Best case for them would be to trade out of #1 and still end up with a top 8 pick to get a QB. I just don't see Bortles, Bridgewater or Manziel being worth the #1 overall pick. To pass on Clowney for either of those 3 QBs is a huge risk IMHO.

DrealynWilliams's picture

I agree. But there are a nice group of QB they can get late first or even in the 2nd or 3rd.

RC Packer Fan's picture

My question for you is. Are Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel worth a top 5 pick?
I look at it this way. If a QB is worthy of a top 5 pick, then they are worthy of the #1 pick, IMO.
In 2008 the Dolphins passed on Matt Ryan and took Jake Long. Ryan went #3 to the Falcons. Dolphins would have been far and away better drafting Ryan then Long.

QB's for me are different. If there is one worth a top 5 pick I think he is worthy of the 1st pick. Most teams with the 1st pick don't have a solid QB. So they would be better to take the best QB available if he is rated that highly.

Now this year the best player is Clowney. And other teams might really want him, so they could trade back and get the player they want, but if Houston likes a QB well enough to pick him in the 1st 8 picks, they should like him enough for the 1st pick.

If it were me my choice, it would be between Clowney and Bridgewater. I think Bridgewater is the best QB this year. But Clowney is the best player overall.
For me it comes down to how much they like Keenum, and how much they like the 2nd tier of QB's like Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo.

JimTaylor31's picture

I heard that same argument on ESPN this AM. Not saying I disagree in principle. Just saying if you pass on a talent like Clowney then you better be damn sure that the QB you pick isn't just a guy with potential who may develop. I just don't see any of the top 3 QBs this year being anything special or even close to the A. Luck category. But I'm not paid to evaluate talent either so I don't claim to have any expertise in that area.

Stroh's picture

None of the QB's in this draft class are can't miss prospects. To me that makes them all iffy at best to be worthy of a top 5 pick. Problem is Clowney isn't a can't miss player either. He has his own issues and didn't do himself any favors by having an underwhelming season. Physically he is far and away the best size/speed athlete. Houston also runs a 34 base D and Clowney projects best as a 43 DE than a 34 OLB. Which complicates things even more.

If it were me, I would trade back and still get one of the QB's. IMO there is a difference between taking a QB at #5 and at #1. If your taking a player #1 overall I think you should be completely sold on him. And I don't think any player in this draft qualifies.

Bridgewater is the most NFL ready QB, but may not have the highest ceiling of the QB's. I would say Bortles has the highert upside. Bridgewater the highest floor and Manzel the biggest bust potential.

I wouldn't want the #1 pick in this draft and would be looking to move out of the #1 spot, but would want to stay in the top 5 to guarantee I get one of the QB's.

IMO Kalil Mach might be the closest thing to a can't miss in this draft.

JimTaylor31's picture

Good points. Another way of looking at it, assuming there are no clear can't miss QBs, is going with the QB with the biggest revenue potential. Manziel is a boom-bust guy who will put butts in the seats, sell merchandise and create buzz especially in Texas. If you hit on him as a player as well then you really win the daily double.

Stroh's picture

Revenue potential for Manzel is higher than all the others mentioned. Partly due to being a QB, and being from TX certainly could make him the most popular pick for Houston. He would probably sell ALOT of Jerseys and put butts in the seats.

BTW, Like your new handle much better than the old one... lol

BradHTX's picture

Revenue potential is an interesting factor in the Texans' decision, though it's not like they're the Jaguars struggling to put butts in the seats. In 2012 (most recent stats I could find) they were the #5 team in the NFL for income.

Manziel is incredibly popular here, though, no question. A group (presumably Aggie alums) has even bought billboards around Houston saying "Keep Johnny Football in Texas -- www.draftjohnnymanziel.com". Guess that's putting your money where your fandom is!

Stroh's picture

If they're that high in revenue, I don't think it'll be a heavy factor in the decision. But its always a consideration...

Billboards by the fans/alumni is going pretty far for him. Personally I'm not a big fan.

JimTaylor31's picture

Yeah, the old one had to go. I don't think JT31 would've been too impressed being confused with the singer.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I agree there are no can't miss prospects in this draft.
I remember a few years ago (2009 draft) the 'safest' player in the draft was Aaron Curry. He was the safest pick because he was the most guaranteed to be great. Isn't he out of the league now?

In the draft there aren't a lot of guarantees.

I still think Clowney is the best player in the draft. Does that mean he will have the best pro career, no. But his physical talent is higher then anyone else's.

If I was the Texans it would be between Bridgewater and Clowney (or trade down if the right deal was there). Pairing Clowney with Watt might be to tempting to pass. But they do need a QB, and IMO Bridgewater is the best QB in the draft.
My whole argument with drafting a QB, is if they feel comfortable trading down 4 spots or whatever, and feel good about drafting Bridgewater (or whatever QB they like best), then shouldn't they feel comfortable drafting a QB #1 overall? I understand there would be some added value in trading down with acquiring additional picks, but if they can't trade down, and decide they like a specific QB, that is the way they should go.

I agree, I really wouldn't want the #1 pick this year.

I like Mack a lot but he has questions as well...
The player I think would classify as the closest to a can't miss prospect is Sammy Watkins. I would also throw in Jake Mathews in that group.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I didn't hear that, who said that on ESPN?

Yeah, I agree with you on Clowney.

He is the best player in the draft. And none of the top 3 QB's are Andrew Luck. That being said, you have to make sure none of the QB's are worthy of being picked that high if you choose Clowney as well.
Its one thing to miss on a great player, but its another thing to miss on a great QB.

JimTaylor31's picture

It was ESPN radio. The guys after the Cowherd show were talking with Tim Hasselbeck. It's a good argument and I didn't mean to imply that you had heard that idea on ESPN then posted it here. I'm not sure if Clowney is a sure-fire hit either. As Stroh pointed there are red flags with Clowney also. I do think he is the most likely to have the most success in the NFL based on his huge upside. The QBs?? Not so sure.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Ok. That is interesting. No I didn't take it that way. I was just wondering who said it. I didn't hear that.

Yeah, I understand and agree with everyone is saying.

I'm not saying that any of the QB's should go #1 or will, I am just saying that if a QB is good enough to be a top 5 QB, then IMO, they are good enough to be the #1 overall pick.
That's all that I was saying. And honestly, I'm not even really talking about this draft class necessarily. I'm talking more in general.

JimTaylor31's picture

I agree with that. If there is a QB prospect that is rated in the Top 5 overall and you need a QB then using the #1 pick is probably the way to go. No argument from me. I'm just glad we don't have to worry about picking #1. I remember the days when we were regularly picking in the top 10. Pathetic.

4thand1's picture

There's this guy named Aaron Rodgers who no team thought was a top 10 pick. Look how that turned out.

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