May 21st, 2009

PackerChatters: The Not-So-New Awful

Aaron Nagler in Packer Blogs

I’ve remained silent for long enough.

Many of you are aware of a site called PackerChatters, who like to call themselves “The #1 Green Bay Packers Fan Site”. Nothing could be further from the truth.

For me, it started with the snooze-fest they call a podcast, Packers Therapy. Long time listeners of Packer Transplants know how Corey and I (and long-time listener Keith) feel about it, but for those of you just tuning in, Packers Therapy is the aural equivalent of watching paint dry, but without all of the inherent thrill of that activity. They constantly misidentify players, they drone on and on for over an HOUR about who threw for how much yardage, as if NFL.com didn’t exist. (I mean, thank GOD some yahoo with a thick Wisconsin accent is here to TELL me these things, ya know?) On top of all of this, they have all the showmanship of a dead seal. This, from the “#1 Green Bay Packers Fan Site” Really? It’s an insult. Period.

Next, there’s what can only be described as some of the worst opinion writing on the Green Bay Packers this side of Firetedthompsonnow.com. Seriously. For a recent example of said phenomenon, look no further than this recent column from Bruce Smith, a regular Packer Chatters contributor, entitled ‘The Other Great Defensive Coach Hired…Mike Tgrovac.’ Great idea for a piece, right? That’s where the ‘greatness’ ends and the disappointment begins. Read it. The whole thing consists of Smith doing two things – a) saying he’s excited by the hire and then b) recounting Tgrovac’s bio. And just for fun, Smith throws in a bunch of quotes from Tgrovac’s media sessions when he was hired. That’s it! Column complete! What a waste. If you handed this in in grade school you’d get an ‘F’, and this is “The #1 Green Bay Packers Fan Site”? Now, to be fair, there are some decent writers over at the ol’ Chatters, such as CHTV favorite C.D. Angeli, our friends Jersey Al and F. Gordon Union, but the mediocrity those gentlemen find themselves surrounded by is a shame.

Finally, there’s the draconian, fascist PackerChatters Forums. A collection of pretty knowledgeable Packer fans, being lorded over by what can only be described as some absolute pricks. Did you know that if you put up a link to another Packer blog, they IMMEDIATLY take it down? Not only that, THEY edit your post to make it seem as though you never mentioned it to begin with? I know what you’re thinking “Come on Aaron, stop going over there an pimping your site” Not so my friends! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten messages from people saying they linked to CHTV only to have the links taken out of their posts. These are their OWN READERS they are doing this to! Wait, wait, WHAT do they call themseleves again? Oh that’s right - The #1 Green Bay Packers Fan Site.

Just today, a long time PackerChatter reader sent me the following:

Whattttt???!!! These guys have removed the link? Already?! Never mind ‘Already’ – I mean, AT ALL??!!
I don’t get it. I just don’t get it. Twice before, recently, I’ve seen links removed in situations in which it made absolutely no sense to me. One time in particular, where a site specifically requests that their material not be copied – but removing a link to the material made no sense. Both times, especially the latter, I came very close to arguing it, but decided to let it go because it was a losing battle and there was no point.

I see it’s about time to get myself thrown off the forum. This shit is too much. It’s just a forum and there are others, equally good, in spite of all the self praising breast beating that goes on here. And besides, f*** it, I can read all I want as a guest anyway.

No wonder this place keeps losing so many of its better posters.

And this is from someone who’s been going to PackerChatters for years.

Don’t get me wrong, I understand keeping flame wars under control, I understand that it’s their site, their rules, etc. But to blatantly remove links to other sites that offer ideas and insights on the very team who’s fans you supposedly are there to serve isn’t just stupid, it’s sub-moronic. And do you really want to laugh? This is taken directly from their ‘About Us’ section:

Originally, when the internet was in its infancy, this was the only on-line source for accurate Packers info. Larry and other members would type in Press-Gazette articles so that fans outside Brown County could stay in touch. Today things are blissfully a lot more open.

I mean, that’s comedy gold right there.

I could go on and on, from the ridiculous rumors that Patty and Joe Arrigo spit out with regularity at draft time (none of which ever come to fruition) to the horrible layout of the site and how they have completely ignored all advances in Internet connectivity since about, um, 1999. But I won’t bore you the way they bore their readers and listeners. I just find it absurd that a site this behind the times, this horrible, this BACKWARD, could call itself, that’s right, say it with me: The #1 Green Bay Packers Fan Site. What complete and utter bullshit.

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brilliance…I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Packer Corey said in May 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm

There’s alot of cool Packer fans sites, but that’s one I’ve never even bothered to post on. Hell, I don’t even read it.
There’s a strange perversity about Packer fans at times, basically when they become moderators of a forum, it’s like they suddenly develop this extreme sense of moral indignation against peope for odd reasons. Some sites much more so than others.

nerdmann said in May 21st, 2009 at 3:47 pm

Aaron,

The timing of this article was perfect, because PackerChatters actually just posted an article of their own, bashing CheeseheadTV. Check it out here:

(Wait, nevermind, they’ve already taken the link down).

Jeremy said in May 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm

I’d rather listen to the Packers Therapy guys drone on for over an hour than the bite sized podcast you offer. Seriously, 20 minutes is all you guys can manage after a game?? And half of that is Packers “Blogosphere” nonsense that I could care less about. I want a real podcast to discuss Green Bay Packers when I’m slacking off at work and so far Therapy is the better alternative. I don’t care about which blogger said what. I mean it’s fine and all in blogs and I know you guys get into it but I don’t think it makes for enjoyable listening. Sounds like gossip and is almost completely irrelevant to me. At least they talk about the game.
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By the way this is coming from someone who has never visited the Packer Chatters website… I was looking for a Packers podcast on iTunes. I enjoy your site immensely but your podcast is woefully short especially considering the production values you guys have; it’s almost a waste of that nice “studio” to only have you guys discuss the game for 7 or 8 minutes and spend another 5 gossiping about bloggers. I mean I guess that’s half of what you do here on Cheesehead TV (as evidenced by posts like these) but personally, this fan enjoys the football aspect more ;) , especially after games.
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Just my two cents ;) .

Nick said in May 21st, 2009 at 3:54 pm

Ahh, the off season. It sure is fun!

Kevin Purcell said in May 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm

Nick – your complaints about the Podcast have been well documented here at CHTV headquarters, and trust me when I say – you will be pleasantly surprised starting next week :)

packeraaron said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:02 pm

I can’t believe you’re shocked they took your link down. You guys do rail on them pretty hard (they even mentioned it on a podcast). I don’t think there’s a lot of love lose between you guys.

BTW, their draft podcasts were pretty terrible. But at least they did a draft podcast…

dustybricks6 said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm

That’s what I like to hear! :D

Can’t wait. I’m a podcast junkie.

Nick said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:05 pm

dusty – Trust me, if they just took down links to CHTV, I wouldn’t be so indignant. I wouldn’t mind at all, actually. I’d GET that. But they take down EVERYTHING, CHTV or no. That’s absurd.

packeraaron said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:11 pm

A PodCast? Isn’t that what they call a group of Killer Whales?

Ron La Canne said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:11 pm

haha, that is pretty silly. Glad I come here instead of there.

dustybricks6 said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pm

You know how I feel about those d-bags. “Draconian Fascists” has a nice ring to it. Joe Arrigo, marklawrence, and the rest of those old, toolboxes are a pathetic excuse for “the #1 Packers fan site.” Good grief..

Bobby.O.Shea said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pm

That was the first time I have visited the PackerChatters webpage. Wow, does that page need work. They should really be looking into finding a web developer for their site. They may even be able to find one that is a Packer fan that will do it cheap or possibly for free!! I would be embarrassed to put my name on that site for sure…

But if you think that is bad, you should see the webpage for a COMPUTER STORE in my town. I sure hope no one has ever asked them to do any webpage work for them…. Check out the link here

Aaron Rogders said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm

AR – you just made my afternoon. That link was hilarious. Thanks :)

packeraaron said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm

Packer Chatters goes against everything that being a Packer fan stands for. This is precisely why I will never go, listen, or absorb anything there.

For god sakes even Purple Pride is more Packer friendly.

PackersLounge said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pm

Nick, while I agree with your critiques for Packer Transplants (it needs to be longer and Corey and Aaron need to flex their football chops a bit more… because they’re both really knowledgeable fans,) however, what good is talking about the game for an hour when you get players’ names wrong and your game analysis, of even the most basic football concepts, is shaky (and that’s being nice.)

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What I love about CHTV is that the writing is engaging and, at times, cantankerous. In short, it’s effing interesting. Whether you agree or disagree with their opinions, at least they’re well thought out and thought provoking rather than something that was regurgitated the Hashmarks NFC North blog.

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And in case it wasn’t obvious, I think Packers Therapy is awful. They have a great opportunity, as locals, to provide unique insight into the team for someone like me who lives miles and miles away. But they completely fail at this. And this isn’t to say that CHTV’s podcast offering is perfect (ask Aaron and Corey to send you some of my voicemails/emails with my suggestions), but like I said, at least it is interesting and thought provoking.

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One last thing, re: blog gossip. I think what Aaron is doing here and in past posts is a great thing. I believe his goal is for CHTV to be the lynchpin of the Packer Online Community. There is plenty of room out there on the internets for multiple Packer blogs/sites, but what’s the point of running a site if it’s going to be a piece of crap? Further, if you’re going to advertise yourself as Packer Chatters does, you’re leaving yourself open to criticism if you act in complete contradiction to your mission statement. Finally, since Packer Chatters censors any kind of discordant opinions, CHTV is providing a valuable service as a sounding board for those who take issue with PC’s draconian and fascist behavior.

Keith said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm

packeraaron, place image here lol

Aaron Rogders said in May 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pm

Keith, nice write up. My point was Transplants is superior only re: quantity, not quality. Simply put, is if you’re dying of hunger, which would you prefer, an ounce of the most select and exquisite caviar or 2 pounds of (cooked) rice? I’M STARVING for Packers content. I don’t care if my podcast is laced with subliminal messages telling me to kill my cat as long as it’s Packers related.
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. My comments were harsher than my actual feelings on the subject. Pretty much everything is superior in the CH podcast. I mentioned the production values, and the video supplement is nice as well (although again way too skimpy and is essentially 90% of the same content as the podcast). I just think they need to flesh it out a LOT more…that’s pretty much my only complaint.
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Regarding the “gossip” I do enjoy it sparingly, and it doesn’t bother me in blog posts. I personally don’t think it makes for good listening…that was my only point. Again though, perhaps the issue is that it was always disappointing to hear when that section of the podcast came up because it always came too quickly and meant the football discussion was over. So that put a damper on it.
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And don’t take my criticisms of the podcast the wrong way. I love the site and when Aaron has time for a full post there’s no better source for Packers discussion (most recently the Kampman post). As I said it came off a little harsher than I intended. I support the site often and hope it grows constantly. The improvement of the podcasts will help. :D

Nick said in May 21st, 2009 at 5:20 pm

Yeah, a longer podcast would be cool. I think the PC people are from a certain yahoo group which has pretty much a similar character as PC.
They get real personal against new members and then real tense when you disagree with the group opinion.
Discussing Packers with knowledgeable fans is cool, but some people actually manage to make it a buzzkill. And that’s not easy.

nerdmann said in May 21st, 2009 at 5:27 pm

Don’t you guys dare change the format of your podcast…

BeerKid said in May 21st, 2009 at 7:14 pm

Shouldn’t this argument be taking place on Twitter?

packerwatch said in May 21st, 2009 at 7:44 pm

Whoa whoa whoa – lets let PackerChatters catch up to, say, 2001 before we ask them to plunge into 2009. ;)

packeraaron said in May 21st, 2009 at 8:17 pm

Why was it that we had to kill usenet? I still prefer its text-based UI & the anarchy.

Mr. Optimistic said in May 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pm

@packerwatch classic! ;)

Keith said in May 21st, 2009 at 9:16 pm

Well Aaron, Its hard to tell how you really feel about them, stop mincing words….
Seriously, I feel the same way about Zbuds as I do about Ladies Packer Chatterly….they suck.
Now, about those podcasts…what I do for a living is build media brands. So I know a little about what I am going to say here. Its one thing to have a site devoted to your opinion…that’s what blogs are about and yours has a really savvy brand identity, so good job. The problem about your opinion about pod casts is that your opinion doesn’t actually matter in terms of format. You see you are beholden to your audience with regards to that. If we like how (not what) you present information we tune in and build your brand, if not, alas you go the way of the buffalo. So what I am trying to say here is that you have seriously misjudged podcasts. If you were really intent on building a huge brand loved by all things packer you would do some authentic and accurate research. what that research would tell you is that if you did a podcast a day, or at least one a week and if it was just you and your boy taking phone calls and you archived it in the offseason, you would be enjoying twice the traffic twice as long. You have seriously under estimated the appetite of your audience to listen to you two speak about all things packer…now that may be due to modesty, but its wrong none the less. Is this a hobby or an obsession, do you want to win it all, or just compete?
We want multiple podcasts. we want to call or email in questions, and we want them long and frequent and I dare you to run a poll on this to prove it.

still love you though

Buckslayernyc

buckslayernyc said in May 21st, 2009 at 9:22 pm

Aaron and Corey may recall that when I discovered Packers Therapy last year, I sent them a number of mistakes (names wrong, saying Harrell didn’t contribute when he didn’t even play, etc) that just drove me crazy. I don’t like to take shots at anyone who is trying to do a decent job but that podcast is woeful. Anyway, I listened about 3 times and have never gone back. It’s just too painful

Andrew in Atlanta said in May 21st, 2009 at 9:26 pm

Staying clear of PackerChatters is a wise move. I really don’t see any redeeming value in the term papers they seem to puke out the night before posting.
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Watch out for the ‘infamous’ Patty. Her husband is a low-level player’s agent who has had issues with TT. As a result, of course, she has nothing but malice towards TT as often as possible. What she is rhymes with itch.
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The real problem with this site, IMO, is that they pass themselves off as knowing something when it’s obvious that they are just bouncing around the web & then writing kinda like a paper due the next day. -Hell, I can do that.

WoodyG said in May 21st, 2009 at 9:49 pm

I’m not a big fan of packerchatters op-ed but their forum even with its ”rules” at least has a lot of traffic and plenty of very good posters. many on there actually use logic, reason, and facts to back up their opinions which is rare on most of the boards I’ve visited. i’d be very appreciative if anyone could point me in the direction of a packer forum that has traffic and knowledgeable posts that don’t just deteriorate into childish pissing contests or the same tired argument no matter the topic.

wgbeethree said in May 21st, 2009 at 11:53 pm

I think they blew out the speakers in my car with that podcast.

bomdad said in May 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 am

wow. there is some fascinating stuff here.

I guess I knew some people’s opinion but not everyone. thanks for the comments on the podcast. I guess Aaron and I come from the school of “less is more”. We always felt that giving the fans a 20 minute audio Show was better in the long run for our audience.

Maybe if we made it longer I would reveal the same weaknesses that Chatter’s Therapy has….

Only time will tell. I hope everyone on that has commented shows up next week for our 3rd Season of Packer Transplants- hopefully u will be pleasantly surprised…

Also- everyone should be as cool as Nick and Buy us a case of Beer. :)

Packer Corey said in May 22nd, 2009 at 7:45 am

Corey, never mind the beer, Keith’s use of draconian and fascist in the same sentence should get him some CHTV toys for sure :)

Also, I have not been shy with my love for this blog, but I do think Nick is right that the video contains essentially the same thing as the pod. It would be great to see something unique in the video (or the pod for that matter) that is not in the blog. Either way, I’ll be tuned in tho.

Andrew in Atlanta said in May 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 am

Though Packerchatters has it’s flaws – especially in the OP-ed departemnt – the posters are very knowledgeable and can actually hold a discussion. I’ve visited a multitude of other sites and their forums are mostly subject to childish arguments and uneducated guesses. I agree that ‘Patty’ is bitter and overrated and ‘Arrigo’ has never had a rumour come to fruition, but the posts are why I visit the site, not the ‘experts’.

Piet said in May 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 am

Piet and wgbeethree – I agree with the quality of the posters over at PC. That’s what makes it all the more depressing that it’s run the way it is.
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On a side note, we have some pretty insightful posters of our own here at CHTV. I hope you’ll stick around and check out the discussions here on the blog and in our own CHTV forums.

packeraaron said in May 22nd, 2009 at 8:58 am

Why such a long diatribe? They’re there, doing what they’re doing and probably enjoying it. I used to peruse their stuff but not anymore. Your blog is more interesting, no need to lash out at those who aren’t.

manolito said in May 22nd, 2009 at 9:09 am

Just listened to your fan fest podcast again. This is much more natural than the rest of the podcasts, however the problem for me is evident in this one as well. You guys have a great conversation going and then you seem to just cut it off just as it gets going and move to the “Packers Blogosphere” section. And it’s very abrupt. That’s what my “frustration” is I guess. Perhaps you felt the level of discussion dropped after that point but again for me I think you should just let it run and see what sort of discussion comes from it. You guys obviously have a great dynamic and I think “letting the tape run” a bit could get some very interesting discussion between you two.
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I know from speaking to you about the forum setup (Corey) that you like to have things organized and structured, but here again I think your podcast could benefit from a little more free roam. I think because of the improvised “studio” for the fan fest podcast you were able to get a more spontaneous show. Perhaps that’s just a difference in viewpoint though. Personally I think you guys are too interesting to just stick to the script ;) . Simply put, the format is great but just allow it to flesh out a bit and you’re golden.
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Perhaps try to reach for 30 minutes? I agree over an hour is stretching it for one topic no matter how interesting you are. Ideally though you should just let the conversation dictate the length of the podcast rather than going into it with a strict “time limit” in mind. Again… if you have a good conversation going with a lot to talk about there’s no reason to cut it off (within reason obviously), but if you are struggling for conversation there’s no reason to keep it going. Podcasts benefit from not having to follow a strict time budget…there are advantages to that. Just Another .02 from me ;) .
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And yes, everyone should support the site if they can. You don’t want these guys drinking the watered down stuff, do you?

Nick said in May 22nd, 2009 at 9:11 am

Nick- thanks. points taken :)

Andrew- I think what we have in mind for the video u will like- different from the podcast- i will be interested to hear what peeps think about our upcoming 3rd Season.

Packer Corey said in May 22nd, 2009 at 9:37 am

I do have to agree, on the overall complaint(?)…. is that the right word?
Anyway…..
I used to climb onto the Forum(s) at FrozenTundra, PackerChatters, Zbuds, etc.,etc. a long time ago, but then stepped back to (at least attempt) write up some of our own Sportz Desk Articles for the Club. Mind you, I don’t say I’m anything of a Journalist-type expert. And, my blogging still needs work. No one is more aware than I.
I would ask everyone – if Aaron will allow (?) – which websites, out of all there are, do you check in at besides CHTV? The “aware” packerfan never goes to just one source for their info. And, there was a ranking on NFL.com for the most visited Team(s) online, where the Cowboys were way up there, but I think the Pack were something like 13th. And, they discussed WHO had the most web traffic along with how they tracked it.
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For my take – I think Packerfans ARE the most prolific there are “online” when it comes to discussing their fandom and for the most part they do it with a higher level of intelligence – at least the truly diehard fans do. Sure, as Aaron can attest to, it does take time to research what you’re trying to point out. And, not all of us have the same amount of FREE TIME that Aaron seems to have.
Yet, CHTV did start out taking small steps and now they’re up to running sprints. As many of you have seen, this web site seemed to start out as a Video website, and has now taken on a more robust personality (sorry Bill Gates, I know that’s a MS word). I like it.
I haven’t been to those other websites in several seasons, although I’m fairly sure my login still works. I’m mystified why C.D. still bothers to be over there, unless it’s just to drop off his latest rant and then leave before the traffic gets so bad it becomes an hour drive home. TundraVision (can I say that here?) is also becoming the more beneficial across the WWW.
From this chair, I would ask Aaron to check on a couple of things –
1. Why can’t we edit our posts, at least within the first 30 minutes, like what Multiply.com allows? Many of us would like to possibly broaden some of our comments or edit out the stoopid typos. Notice I point out a time limit “is” somehow possible in the coding.
2. Why is it we can’t put a space between our paragraphs? Seriously. I’ve used lines between my opinion points almost from the beginning as a Member. Now, it’s becoming the norm it seems. I think we would all like to be able to add that spacing.
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I also agree – contributing to the Site, so things can get better would be a plus. Not many deserve the donation – but if any Site leaves my hard opinion on, without reprisals…. then, I figure that’s a good thing.
Thanks PA.

IPBprez said in May 22nd, 2009 at 9:40 am

Not only does Aaron “allow” discussion of other sites, Cheesehead TV has an awesome Packer World section where you can see a huge list of Packers sites, both official sources AND blogs. It’s an awesome database of all the best Pack sites (I feel like I’m advertising)!
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http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packer-world

Nick said in May 22nd, 2009 at 9:45 am

Lots of love going around. Cool
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On a completely unrelated note, I just found out Atlanta has a Lingerie Football League team. How did I miss that? Ironman, I count on you for these things dude!

Andrew in Atlanta said in May 22nd, 2009 at 11:55 am

IPBPrez-

we i mean I (corey) am working on the issues of the spacing in the comments. one day I will fix that. Somebody buy me a case of Beer and I will devote serious dedication :) It seems like an easy CSS fix no? oh no my friend…

as far as editing comments.. I’ve added another 5 minutes to editing comments. Hope that helps peeps get what they wanna say together without feeling rushed.

corey said in May 22nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm

Old dude says: Farm Out, Out-of-State, Right on, right, right on!
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Thanks, Corey ….
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Did you have a preference of Leinenkugel, or ???? – LOL

IPBprez said in May 22nd, 2009 at 12:29 pm

I checked out that link. Not bad.
Obviously things have changed since we did our listing. Some have fallen by the wayside.
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However, I do think it prudent to have a section for Official PackerFan Club(s) around the Nation and potentially the World. We used to have a link for a Group of German Packerfans. I searched and found a Bar where they exclusively show Packer games in Thailand, too. That’s why a website for WorldWidePackerFandom has merit … if a cheesehead had the time.
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So, please forward my request for a Club Section. From my searches, I found (if I remember correctly) there were 23 bonafide clubs – there could be more – w/ websites. As opposed to PackerBars.

IPBprez said in May 22nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm

Other blogs are listed in Packer world but not any other fan podcasts (?). Easy enough to get that from iTunes though. To be honest, I listen to them all. Quantity over quality, I have a long commute. I would say shorter is OK from the standpoint of being easier to navigate on an iPod, I cant hold my finger on the button for a whole Therapy session to get back to a certain segment. More content, packaged smaller…ideal.

bomdad said in May 22nd, 2009 at 1:24 pm

First off, I’m not a big fan of Packerchatters myself.

That said, Aaron, how about you stop sucking at blogging before you start criticizing other Packer sites?

Phoenix138 said in May 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm

What a zinger! Will do :)

packeraaron said in May 22nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm

IPBPrez- We have a Fan Club section- It’s a Map-

and you guys are on it. :)

http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/maps/packer-world-map

We also have a section for Packer Fan Clubs in our Packer Fan Forum. Which would be awesome if I was any good at Forum Moderating.

http://cheeseheadtv.com/forum/.....ars-b21.0/

corey said in May 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm

Hey nerdmann, Hot Girlfriend didn’t win Miss x4. She made a hell of a run in the PVC category though.

Henry said in May 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm

BTW, did anyone catch the thread when marklawrence, “Lead Moderator”, decided to drop into x4 and spew his ridiculously vapid yet incredibly arrogant style of posting to defend the honor of PackerYappers? Ah memories.

Henry said in May 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm

Can’t we all get along ?

Packerhq.net said in May 24th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

this is what you take your time to write about? thats just sad. I’m going to hang out with some adults now. Right after I take this site off my saved sites.

dabeene1 said in May 24th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

dabeene1 – I don’t know if you read our tag but it says “devoted to Green Bay Packer fans” – calling out the #1 trafficked Packer fan site for bad behavior to Packer Fans is at the core of the mission of our website. If you notice we are choosing to fight this battle during the off-season downtime.

I don’t know about you- but not allowing Packer Fans to join the “#1 Packer Fan site” is pretty bad behavior. Even for adults.

corey said in May 25th, 2009 at 8:13 am

Seems Joe Arrigo has bought Packerrats but won’t tell anyone who he is until a little mouse let it slip this weekend.
Hmmm wonder if the chatters know about Joe’s new endeavor ? Better yet if those poor folks at Packerrats know who bought the place…ouch !

guess what ? said in May 25th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

Aaron,

I know I’m in here late, but thanks for the kind mention. Personally, I follow the mantra of the great philosopher, Rodney King. Can’t we all just get along?

JerseyAl said in May 26th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

Personally I’ve only listened to one packers chatters pod cast and that was a few weeks ago the draft one. After listening to CHTV podcast for the last year or so, I was very disappointed.

I think you guys do a great job. I love the LM game highlights, I love the banter about the good the bad and the ugly. Ugly mostly being Justin Harrell. Nothing better. You guys have a format and have stuck too it. It works for me. I love it. 20 minutes a week what more do you need. What can you talk about for an hour?? They game itself is only 3 hours.

The chatters guys chatter, as advertised I guess, not very cool if you ask me. They just sound like old people and are not very in depth. IMO!!

grhombe said in May 28th, 2009 at 9:50 am

My only complaint is can you make my paragraphs look like paragraphs. I put a space between them but they dont look like that when I submit. Very annoying..

grhombe said in May 28th, 2009 at 9:51 am

FYI I wont click on the ping’s here from the catters fellow because the only reason they can claim their #1 status is by clicks. Sorry I wont participate in giving them more.

grhombe said in May 28th, 2009 at 10:11 am

Those spaces that everyone is whining about look just fine in RSS. Use RSS in Outlook or some other application, and it will look just fine.

Aaron Rogders said in May 28th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

I can’t stand Packer chatters.

Their resident “insider” Joe tends to toss a millions things out in hopes one of his RUMORS sticks.

Then we have the people that post articles on their front page like the example from Bruce (although Bruce tends to write very well normally)

Over on Brett’s official message board,they will post articles from one of the PC writers and act like its gold.

And your right when you say of course they should be big, they been around for 13+ years.that is ALL they have, being around for a while.

Give me this site, Packerslounge, packershome, or packerforum any day of the week

longtimefan said in May 28th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
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