Man, Jarrett Bush!?!? Just kidding. It looks reasonable to me. If we could get all of those guys to the practice squad without worry, I'd be all for your rankings. I just doubt that there is nobody that would take a chance with Brohm or some of those other guys.

Switch Flynn with Brohm. Every other one I think is good.

Is Harrell on IR or cut in your world?

Looks good to me....I think they keep Brohm on the 53 and I am trying to figure out who gets cuts because of it. Probably have to make a decision between Wynn and Sutton in that scenario unless Jackson's ankle is really bad. If they have to keep 4 RB's per Jackson's injury then maybe they put Havner on the practice squad until Jackson heals up. (no one is going to claim Havner??) You hate to have only two TE's but it might just be for only a week or two.

I think its fair. still dont think they will go with just 2 qbs, but its hard to pick who goes to the ps.

My take, Meridith on the practice squad carry 8 OL and 3 QB. If carrying only 8 Ol sounds crazy, its possible Brad Jones goes even though he hasn't looked awful and might be hard to keep on a practice squad.

Where is Swain in all this, cut?

This is the closest I've seen to an accurate list, and it's not just because it's the closest to cut day. My comments/changes: Brohm stays, Jones get's practice squad if he's not picked up by another team. Montgomery will go eventually for someone on the waiver wire (GB is too low from their record last year not to pick someone up). Then it's a coin flip between Porter and Underwood. I would say Underwood simply because of special teams. All and all, we with all these names, we have to have the best cover team in the league. Thanks Aaron.

Brohm is on the 53. Who to cut you may ask? Brad Jones, (remember Havner can play LB), and I dont know about 4RB's sutton cant block I think he might be gone however I could see them keeping him too. Also I think we can put Quinn J. on the practice squad and keep Kuhn he has played pretty well and is better player than Johnson at this point, I dont think anybody is going to be claiming Johnson sice he is the packers 3rd string FB.

Good list Aaron. My two cents: Underwood and Meredith are two on the fringe that will NOT clear waivers if the team attempts to deviate from this type of list. Potential left tackles and cornerbacks are premium positions in the NFL. Brad Jones, as a tweener, would have a much better shot to clear waivers IF they went that route.

What about Pat Lee's injury? I guess you'd have to wait to hear what the doctor says, but there have to be doubts about whether he could stay on the field.

So, Aaron...where do you expect the Packers to deviate from your projections? Is that the subject of a future blog entry? I would probably keep Underwood up and send Porter down...yes, I know by all accounts Porter has had a good camp. And I'd keep Kuhn over Hall. Kuhn is 15 pounds heavier, and can rush the ball now and then. Hall has never even had a rushing attempt, and in my opinion they're equal as receivers. I just pray that there's a better option than Mike Montgomery "out there" somewhere. And they cannot and will not subject Meredith to waivers. They looked at him as a multi-year project anyway, and I don't see where he has done anything to make them think differently now.

Unless Jackson is seriously hurt, I just don't see the Packers keeping Wynn. If the only thing he brings to the table is his "blocking skills"---keep an extra full back. Run more full back dive. But for the love oblong balls don't keep a running back that can't you know...run.

BTW, I am a Wynn hater. I don't know what it is about the guy. I think it is the cult that has somehow grown up around him that see him as some sort of superstar in the making that just drives be batty.

They can't put Brohm on the practice squad. It's keep him or cut him.
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What happens to Swain?

I forgot about Swain. He's still PS eligible, right? I'd put that two-way threat Swain (ha!) on the PS and let Allen or Heckendorf go.

Nine LB's? Not a chance, especially with Havner playing multiple roles. My guess is Jones is gone and Thompson may end up on the line or cut.
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They'll keep 3 QB's

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I'd like to see them keep Meridith too. I think he might develop to a good tackle with more ZB experience. Breno will be cut. Moll and Breno did nothing to improve their status last night.

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If a real 34 tackle shows up Montgomery is gone

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I still have nightmares about Porter's cover ability
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And please, please let BJ's injury be minor. Heard rumblings last night that Jacksons' ankle is more "complicated" than has been reported.
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Last night was strictly man to man evaluations the stats are meaningless in a game like this. What it did show was there is a need for help with Oline depth, Dline depth, Safety depth, Cornerback depth and getting Crosby more practice. Of course, these problems are probably the same problems for all the teams right now. Still, it is fun speculating.

Brohm on PS would not shock me, even after TN game.

Keeping 3 FB would not shock me but I don't think Wynn and Lumpkin are worth keeping at HB. Go with 3 HB, including Sutton, and 3 FB.

I'd definitely keep Meredith on 53.

Go with Matthews/Thompson on that side and Kampman/Jones on the other side.

Poppinga = ???

I'd rather keep Lansanah.

Secondary - Lee and Underwood on IR. Keep 4 SBs and 4 S and let Bush count as 4th S and 5th CB. This opens up an extra roster spot for front 7. Maybe Toribio or Talley or Malone or another LB.

What, no Trevor Ford? Or Tony Moll?

I'm with DDD on Wynn. I don't understand the love for him from so many people. Of course, others say the same thing of my appreciation for Tyrell Sutton. one key difference, in my opinion, is that Wynn has had several years to demonstrate that he's more than just a guy, a test he continually fails. Sutton we simply haven't seen enough of. I should note that I feel similarly about Jackson as I do about Wynn, though I feel that the Packers should keep one of the two, and that (injuries notwithstanding), Jackson is the one of the two I'd choose.

I haven't seen a whole lot of Pat Lee, but what little I have seen does not impress. Don't see the love for him either. Maybe there's stuff others have seen that I haven't that justifies a roster spot for him.

Finally, am I the only guy who thinks that Desmond Bishop had a pretty good game last night for playing with the scrubs? I really want to see this guy on the field more often.

I just don't see Brohm making it through waivers to be placed on the practice squad. Some team, somewhere, has a bad 3rd string QB and would be willing to replace him with a 2nd round pick two years ago who's started slow but is improving and has a ton of potential.
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Whether you believe that this is an accurate description doesn't matter. My guess is that there is someone who does.
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Also, Quinn Johnson will not be put through waivers for a similar reason. Taking a fullback in the 5th round is like taking most other positions in the 2nd. Because of where he was drafted and his position (and the fact that the other two guys are, for all intents and purposes, the same guy), Quinn Johnson will make the Packers' 53 man roster or he'll be on another team.

I think Stryker Sulak was cut early so they could get him on the PS w/o other teams having any more game tape of him.

Okay, number one, I really think they'll bring in another cast-offs. I doubt the final 53 will be composed solely of current packer players. My bet? They're monitoring DL, OL and CBs.
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I think Underwood has a better chance than Porter. Porter is fast, but can't cover anyone (we are te last team in pass D, and the main reason is the backups covering ability), and Underwood can play Safety.
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I doubt they'll keep 4 rbs either, because Grant will get the majority of the load, so the 3rd Rb will not play much, let alone the 4th.
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I also think, after last two games' play, that Martin is in serious danger of losing his job.
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I believe they'll keep the first 5 DLs, and all 9 LBs.
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And Brohm showed enough to be kept. This kind of play won't grant him a roster spot next year, but this year will. He improved in every single preseason game, and last night showed that, at least, he can not compromise. As I said, that kind of play won't grant him a roster spot next year, because Flynn showed he can do more than not compromise, but because of the college play, he'll be kept. (Remember when TT discussed the Woodson pickup? He mentioned they took into account what he did in college. It IS an important aspect in keeping a player, what he did in college, to Ted Thompson.)

And about other teams having interest in Brohm, if I recall correctly, Bill Parcells wanted to draft him, but after we took him, had to content himself with Chad Henne.

It seems every year there's great debate over which 3rd/4th string RB to keep, that if we let the wrong one go we just cut the next Walter Payton. They're the 3rd stringer for a reason.
Not seeing any of the games I don't know which one to keep but we should only keep three. He would be the one who the coaches feel serves the best purpose i.e. do we need a change of pace guy, a great ST'er, etc.
And yes, I've taken into account Jackson's ankle. It seems to be a week or two issue.

How can anybody hate Pat Lee? This is only the guy's 2nd year. He was hurt for basically the 2nd half of last year. We have Woodson, Harris, Tramon Williams, and Blackmon ahead of him. Give me a break. So he sucks because he couldn't pass Will Blackmon on the depth chart in the 1st 6 weeks of his career? I don't get it. I'm not saying he's great....but it's really hard to have an opinion either way. You want to knock him for being injury-prone, fine. I'll tell you right now, I'm about ready to stick him on KR permanently after seeing all ONE of his returns. Dude showed me more in that one return than any of our other kick returners ever have. When was the last time you saw any of our KRs successfully bounce outside? It's been years.

Demovsky has his 53 up at the PG. He likes Havner and Rouse to stick around, and Lee, Underwood, Peprah and Harrell as "strong IR candidates," so he took them out of it. Aaron, I hope you're more correct than him.

I must say, that is a really nice list Aaron. The only player I could see being on the PS is Brad Jones, but that is meaningless in the long run. I just think with Matthews and Barnett playing last night they can afford one less LB. As for Brohm, I agree he should be on the PS, but I have a feeling someone would pick him up before that happens. His 'upside' is too good to pass up. But you already knows my feelings about Brohm from earlier this year.

You don't have the traditional 3 Qb depth. That is not how you manage an NFL roster. :)

"Why can’t Brohm go on the PS? Do you think someone would claim him?"
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I remember someone saying Brohm and Flynn weren't PS eligible. Come out of hiding whoever you are and back me up! But I agree with Jayme and others that he would be snatched up like a sack lunch-num, num, num, num, num. I'm sure TT and crew are aware of the concept of sunk costs but I don't think they're quite ready to let go of a second round pick just yet (and I know this list isn't what you think will happen, just should).
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Swain was on PS last year so I am assuming he would be eligible this year. It makes sense that they'll only keep two WRs for PS. I just remember you saying something in the chats about Balt potentially picking up one of our PS WRs. I hope Harris, Simmons, and whoever the 3rd cut is can find a there or elsewhere they're needed. So long as they don't play us. Hopefully someone in our division doesn't sign our waived players simply to gain intelligence. Then again, that may be a complete waste of time and resources. Only so much a Undrafted Rookie will learn.

Flynn is ineligible for the PS because he was active for all 16 games last season. Brohm on the other hand wasn't, so he's eligible. But you have to clear waivers and I doubt Brohm would.

As for division rivals picking up one of our waived players, that is the dicey scenario with our RB's. If we try to sneak Sutton or Wynn on the PS, it won't happen. There has been talk that another NFC North would jump on the chance to get either player, especially Sutton.

How can a guy go from "he's just in his second year, and was a 2nd round pick, let's give him a chance" to "kick that miserable SoB's ass out of town immediately" in one day, after a preseason game that his pass protection was null and he actually improved from the previous game?

Lee, Underwood and Harrell could be stashed on IR. Jackson could go to the PUP and be activated after 6 weeks.
Keep Brohm and Meredith.

@packersrs:

"He mentioned they took into account what he did in college. It IS an important aspect in keeping a player, what he did in college, to Ted Thompson.)"
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Ted Thompson's qoute:
"Well, this goes back to Ron Wolf's teachings that you always kind of value, you factor in your college opinions of players as you go forward, whether it be in free agency or trades or somebody gets released from some other place. The first thing we go back and look at is our college reports, and we obviously had very high ratings of him."
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I might be splitting hairs here, but, the way I took Thompson's statement was not so much they take into account what a player achieved or did in college, but how they had him SCOUTED coming out of college. the scouting reports aren't about what a player achieved in college, it's about what the scouts saw in their abilities and how they project future developement. It could be that Thompson likes to look at what they projected the player to be capable of back then, and then they compare it to what the player has actually been capable of since then.

Is Leonard Pope better the Spencer Havner? Pope was released by the Cards today.

if you guys want hall that bad you better prey to vince himself in football heaven that hall can play a 16 game season he has yet to prove that yet.

But, Aaron, IT'S JUST PRESEASON.

Exactly Oppy, and they scouted Brohm highly, comproved by the position they selected him... I just find it laughable that people think that just beacuse of 2 years of preseason this team is going to cut a guy that was scouted very highly...

I would HOPE the Pack is looking for OL. I got tired of our 2 yd gains last night---and the watching us fail on 3rd and one. We lack a real running attack and our fight over RBs does not address the real problem.

"We lack a real running attack and our fight over RBs does not address the real problem."
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As a team, the Packers are averaging 4.2 YPC during the preseason.
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Averages:
Brandon Jackson 4.9
Tyrell Sutton 4.8
Ryan Grant 4.4
Kregg Lumpkin 3.5
DeShawn Wynn 2.9
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With exception to Wynn, these are solid numbers as a group.
in terms of the starting Oline, they have, for the most part, had very good push at the point of attack.
I agree more depth would be nice, specifically at Tackle, but I don't think things are as bleak as you may think, retiredgrampa. We do have a real running attack and I don't know there's a problem at this point.

Does GB even have a 2nd RB ?? After Grant, GB is in trouble. ... Out of Wynn, Jackson, Sutton.... who's the 3rd down back ? Who's the short yardage back ? Who can catch a pass out of the backfield ? Who can stay healthy ?..... I just don't have much trust in any of these guys............ I have a funny feeling that sometime during 2009 a new name will appear on GB's roster at RB..... If Grant goes down it may be even earlier than expected.....

I was not anxious to get a gotcha moment. I'm just so surprised with the change of opinion based on one not so good not bad preseason game. And giving him a chance to be on PS isn't valid, because he won't be on PS, he'll be claimed. It's either he's o the team or he's not. And it's a lot of saliva (fingers?) wasted on something that'll not happen. You agree on that, right?

Since Kevin Jones is now out for the year in Chicago, I wonder if duh Bums would claim Sutton if we tried to stash him on the PS. I think they might. Just one more reason why we'll see Sutton on the 53.

Brohm would likely get picked up as some team's third string quarterback. Look who the Bears or the Lions have back there, for example.

Underwood goes on IR. Can Harrell be put on PUP for the first chunk of the season?

Wynn over Lumpkin, yes. Four running backs with Jackson hurt. When he comes back, maybe they pare down there and pick up a DL or a guy in the secondary.

I see former 1st round pick Joey Harrington got cut today. Is he any more or less attractive than 2nd round pick Brohm?

If he's indeed released, it's a dumb move. He'll be claimed. I don't think he can help any team anytime soon, but I can't say he won't live up to his college rep someday. Well, MM knows more about qbs than I do, so I gotta go with his decision.

The ONLY one I'm truly shocked by is Anthony Smith. I thought he was pushing Bigby and really showing some flashes.