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Mike McCarthy Looking for DL Datone Jones, Josh Boyd to Make Second-Year Leap

Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy at the NFL Combine. Photo by Brian Carriveau of CheeseheadTV.com.

INDIANAPOLIS––No, Mike McCarthy doesn't intend to utilize smaller defensive linemen moving forward despite what's been suggested in the media in recent weeks.

But he does have to prepare for the potential losses of two of the most productive veterans on the team in B.J. Raji and Ryan Pickett, a pair of big-bodied "War Daddies" that both tip the scales at over 330 lbs. They'll become free agents in early March and may or may not be back.

With an eye toward the future, McCarthy is looking for a pair of rookies from the 2013 class to step up their play entering their second year in professional football to help the Packers defense become more creative and more effective. Those players are Datone Jones and Josh Boyd.

"We’ve had a situation with our defense where there’s a lot of change, a lot of moving parts and we have to do a better job of planning for that and training that way starting in April," said McCarthy. "At the end of the day, Datone Jones needs to be on the field and being utilized. We have a lot of creativity in our defense and a lot of scheme, but the reality is we didn’t get to a lot of it this past year."

Jones was a first round draft choice this past season, and while he's still young, he probably didn't put up the numbers people expect from a player picked No. 26 overall. Despite playing in all 16 games, Jones had just 10 tackles and 3.5 sacks.

Part of the reason for Jones' lack of production might perhaps be attributed to being undersized at a listed weight of 285 lbs. and an inability to keep on the weight over the course of a long season, one quite a bit longer than college.

But another factor––and one that was not insignificant––was Jones' sprained ankle suffered at the most inopportune time, his first snap of the first preseason game of the year.

“Datone, very talented young man," said McCarthy. "His injury at the end of training camp set him back. There’s a number of packages that he was a big part of, a primary part of, and frankly we really didn’t get to a lot of them just because of the way the season went with our injuries. Getting him back in the offseason, I feel he’s one of those second year players who take a huge jump. That will be my expectations for him.”

If Raji and Pickett depart in free agency, there's little choice but for Jones to play a larger role this upcoming season, even if he doesn't possess the same sheer bulk.

Whereas Jones was utilized primarily as an interior pass-rush specialist in his rookie season, he'll be looked at as someone that needs to become nearly a three-down player like Raji used to be.

Even if Raji and Pickett do depart, Jones is never going to be a nose tackle in the team's 3-4 defense. But there's perhaps another second-year player who could handle such a position.

Boyd was lightly used in his rookie season with the Packers, although his playing time and impact increased late in the year. Entering his sophomore season in the NFL, he's another player that will be looked at to bolster the defensive line.

"I don't want Josh to bulk up. He's a big man," said McCarthy. "Josh did some good things. I think Josh has a flexibility. He's shown he can play the nose and he can play the three-technique. So I really like what Josh gave us as a rookie, but he needs to take a huge step, a big step. And I think he'll be one of those players that does that in his second year."

The Packers certainly haven't ruled out the possibility of Raji and Pickett returning to Green Bay in 2014. As general manager Ted Thompson acknowledged on Friday, he'd like to keep his players all things being equal.

In the NFL, however, not everything is equal. The Packers have to balance a salary cap and how much they want to invest into their free agents and weigh that against any offers another team might make.

Jones and Boyd are part of the team's future plans, no matter what happens in free agency, and they're being looked to be part of the anticipated renaissance on the Packers defense in 2014.

"We will be a little different on defense as far as how we utilize our defensive players, particularly our front players, because we do have a number of players who can play both the rush outside position and maybe make some impact from the inside position," said McCarthy. "But our evaluation as far as what we’re going to do bringing defensive linemen into our program––if anything, you always want to get bigger, stronger and faster and things like that. We’re definitely not going to be smaller.”

Brian Carriveau is the author of the book "It's Just a Game: Big League Drama in Small Town America," and editor of Cheesehead TV's "Pro Football Draft Preview." To contact Brian, email carriveau@uwalumni.com.

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jeremy's picture

I'm glad that they express the expectations to these guys that they need to improve. I just want them to have a solid plan B if it doesn't happen.

Albert Lingerfeld's picture

Mike, the great Jimmy Johnson once said when asked how he was so successful in Miami with his great linebacking core and he said "you can't coach speed". You need to bring in guys with speed because a coach isn't going to make them fast via practice.
Datone is a lot slower and less powerful then the Packers expected and Perry is the same. They just have no quickness to make plays.

Stroh's picture

Quickness and speed are two entirely different things! And if you want the truth the more important of the 2 is quickness! Don't use them interchangeably, it just makes you sound like a fool!

MarkinMadison's picture

You are a smart guy. Can you figure out how to make your points without insulting people?

Nick Perry's picture

Unfortunately he can't MarkinMadison. While he makes some excellent points from time to time, he just can't help himself when it comes to insults and name calling. Do what I do, ignore it. He's got that reputation on just about every Packers site, at least the ones he's still allowed on.

Stroh's picture

There's a difference between sounding a fool and calling him a fool. Recognize it...

MarkinMadison's picture

Your right Nick.

Bert's picture

Just ignore him like most of us do. Sometimes losers like using these forums to belittle others. Makes them feel important as they spend much of their time in real life getting sand kicked in their face. I kinda pity the poor dope. No I don't actually.

Jordan's picture

Stroh clearly has issues. You know it. I know it. We all know it.
I agree with Bert. You just have to ignore him.

ray nichkee's picture

What makes jimmy johnson so great, his hair, his job with the dolphins, or the hershel walker trade?

ray nichkee's picture

Mike sherman tried that speed shit on defense and it cost him his GM job(good). Then it cost him his job when his starters all got injured. You don't draft speed, you draft football players and there are only so many to go around. Anybody can play the game but only so many can define the job with their play.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

ray, 1st, I replied to your post on JJ. GREAT POST!!

I'm beginning to wonder, how good the scouting is, not just by GB. I wonder if more than a few Good Players are not getting looked at.

They put up 4-5 guy's at every position, like they're the only one's that can play? How good can the scouting be when someone like Jamal Renyolds gets picked, or Harrel, or Buckley, or Bubba Franks??
I'm sure I'm missing someone, but McKensi is the last Quality back I can remember us drafting. It doesn't seem to me that GB has too good of a track record at drafting defensive backs, Corners or Safety's. Am I wrong?

Clay's picture

Jamal Reynolds was picked by Ron Wolf.

No GM bats .1000

ray nichkee's picture

It is a game of horseshoes and handgrenades where you got to be close to count. Nobody seems to like aj hawk but if he was a seventh round pick everybody would love him. If the packers were that bad schnieder, mckenzie, and dorsey would not have gotten new jobs. Time will tell on the current staff. Wolf did good enough job and he blew the randy moss pick. That may have been more superbowls.

DB? Collins was a great pick. All harris was given to us by andy reid. Tramon williams blue collered his way here. Shields was a bad WR now CB. Too early for the new guys but that is it for recent guys I think. Sharper sucked after butler left and buckley only played good in other uniforms.There must be more. Any suggestions?

Stroh's picture

Actually Jamal Reynolds was more a Sherman pick than Wolf. Wolf had already announced he was retiring shortly after the draft and would have retired prior to it, but they wanted him to stick around till after the draft to help Sherman handle it. But Sherman had already been announced as Wolf's successor. So Wolf took a back seat and advisory role in the draft. Sherman made the picks tho.

steven's picture

Casey hayward almost won rookie of the year

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

I wasn't trying to single out any GM, past or present. I forgot about Collins. I don't remember us drafting him. He was a great pick.
I mentioned Jamal Renolds because it has to be one of the worst picks ever made. How could draft boards have him rated so high. That was my point about drafting a Safety. How could a scouting team be that wrong about a player. If I remember correctly, he got $10 Mill to sign, & never got a uniform. I believe he played for FS, who didn't play too many quality schools those days. That's why I was wondering if a lot of players get over looked. Scott Tolzein is a good example. You may disagree with me, but I think he's a Damn good QB, & he didn't get drafted. Even during the BF years, other than when we had Reggie & Sean Jones, our Defense always seemed to struggle with the pass. Even with Harris, Woodson & Collins, I often asked why teams didn't throw every down. I don't know how the scouting works, but I've always questioned our Pass Defense.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Steven, You're Correct, I missed Casey Hayward. I'm getting TOO OLD!!

4thand1's picture

Tom,Welcome to the club! I can't believe how much shit I forget these days. lmfao.

Eraserhead's picture

Are you from las vegas or are you bullshitting us?

The TKstinator's picture

Also, recall that when Jamal Reynolds was drafted in the first, GB took Aaron Kampman in the fifth. How did that play out?
Mike Golic on ESPN recently said that the draft is all about projection: predicting how well these guys' games will translate to the NFL, rather than just how successful they were in college.
Who among us hits on 100% of our predictions? (I'm going to get my popcorn ready for the replies to that one!)

Also, look back at ANY team's last several drafts. You will see plenty of "misses" along with the hits. We put GB's picks under a microscope because GB is "our team"; it is often a result of unfamiliarity that results in the "grass is greener on the other side of the league" attitude.

cLowNEY42's picture

Boyd>Jones

steven's picture

You sir are an idoit. I bet you ask that question to any team anf they would pick jones. Maybe boyd is currently but he has a low cieling

cLowNEY42's picture

"Maybe boyd is currently"

steven's picture

saying maybe, they play different positions and we knew jones needed time.

Eraserhead's picture

Boyd is a man!! Jones is not only a girl but a bitch!!

Phatgzus's picture

Boy would I love to watch a video of you saying that to his face.

Eraserhead's picture

What's he gonna do, slap me? I can see the headlines "Packers' Datone Jones is arrested for assaulting a fan." Goodell would be on his bitch
ass!!!!!

Stroh's picture

That may be true, but I SERIOUSLY doubt you would be man enough to say that to Datone's face either!

Bobby D's picture

Guys converted to unfamiliar positions and coached by Dom Capers....how can they fail? Loved Raji in '10 and can't stand him since.
Lazy, not motivated and unproductive. But....watch what happens when he goes to a system and a coaching staff that makes it fun for him again. Our 3-4 sucks because we have one linebacker and no pass rush up front, but let's stick with it forever anyway. And until Lacy came along and started running people over, how anout that zone blocking scheme Jeff J brought with him way back when. This coaching staff is stale, outdated and consistently out maneuvered on the D side of the ball. Mediocre talent and bad coaching = bet the over.

Stroh's picture

Watch what happens when Raji is allowed to play his true position NT, not DE like he's been forced to play the past few years!

Eraserhead's picture

Don't be stupid. Raji SUCKED BIG TIME at NT, so they moved him to DE and put Pickett at NT, and Raji seemed to play better. Now he's back at sucking and people want him back at NT??? WTF?

Stroh's picture

You thought Raji sucked playing NT in '10? Come on man... I think your a little smarter than that! Raji was a beast in '10, the ONLY season he was allowed to play NT by the way. Since he's been forced to play out of position at DE. Problem was both Raji and Pickett are NT and I think they thought Raji could handle DE better than Pickett. That didn't work out and backfired. Make no mistake tho, the one year Raji actually played NT he excelled at it!

Eraserhead's picture

'10 was a great year for Raji, but in 2011 he was also playing NT and he was a wash. '12? That's when they moved him to DE towards the latter half of the season because he was getting shoved like a woman.

Stroh's picture

Raji only played NT in '10. In '11 is when they started playing him at DE most of the time, along w/ DT in nickel/dime. But in base he played DE, not his natural NT spot.

IMO it was a major blunder to move him and has led to his regression.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Clay, I believe he also picked Buckley, & Franks. That wasn't my point. My point was GB, for whatever reason, doesn't have a very good track record on drafting defensive backs. I was wondering why?

Stroh's picture

Hayward is looking pretty good and Collins was outstanding. Jury's out on Burnett. McMillan bust, Pat Lee bust. Huge hits on Tramon and Shields as UDFA they should count. Batting bout .500 or better overall it would seem, if you count Tramon and Sam.

WKUPackFan's picture

Several of those poorer DB decisions occurred starting 15 years ago as a seeming overreaction to the Randy Moss phenomenon. For the four drafts of '99-'02 (following Moss's rookie year) GB drafted a total of five DBs in the first three rounds. McKenzie was the only one to make a significant contribution.

Stroh's picture

If your going Pre-Thomspon, maybe... Sherman sucked at drafted almost every position, and Wolf had plenty of misses. The draft w/ Edwards, Vinson, McKenzie, Buckley...

WKUPackFan's picture

Buckley was earlier, drafted in '92, and was beaten like a rented mule on a regular basis.

Stroh's picture

I know... Buckley was Wolf's 1st draft pick as GM, but he was a big miss considering we could have taken Troy Vincent, who would have become a cult hero in GB

The TKstinator's picture

Yes and I clearly remember Wolf stating at the time that Buckley "is simply a better player" than Vincent. He was "an offensive, defensive player" with his pick six and punt return abilities.

Yes, his play was "offensive"; chuckle chuckle.

His timing could not have been worse as the era of the "big" wide receiver was beginning. I still have nauseating memories of him vs Irvin and Harper in the playoffs. (I also remember my frustration during those games and shouting, "hell, even I could get open if they let me push off like that!",) but I digress.

Stroh's picture

I was wrong about that one too. I liked Buckley coming out of FSU. He was a tremendous offensive defensive player in college. Back in the day I liked the glitz and showmanship, Vincents game wasn't as "exciting" but it was much more effective.

Stroh's picture

WKU.. The Packers and Wolf specifically did over-react to Moss. That was evident when they drafted Edwards, Vinson, McKenzie w/ the 1st 3 picks one year.

Hank Scorpio's picture

That was the best over-reaction in the history of over-reactions. Somehow busting on the first 2 of 3 DBs produced 2 stars.

McKenzie was a starter from day 1 until he was traded. After a year, Vinson was sent to Seattle for a kick returner with fumble problems by the name of Ahman Green.

Clay's picture

I hear you Tom, I just think it is a bit of a stretch when you lump the Wolf, Sherman, and Thompson eras into one. By that logic why not add the Lombardi era. Willie Davis was a great corner.

I would just focus on this administration and judge whether Ted and his people are good at drafting in the secondary...

Stroh's picture

Willie Davis was a DE. Sheesh... Dave Robinson was the LB that played behind him, Addlerly was one of the CB's and Willie Wood was a Safety. Funny thing is Davis and Robinson were basically identical is size. Both being 6'3 240 - 245.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

I just saw the post. Thanks for replying, I didn't know how to reply to that.. I wasn't trying to lump all the administrations together. With a few exceptions, IMO, GB has never had a great pass defense. Yeah, we had some good one's along the way. Chuck Ceicle, Johnny Gray, Willie, Herb, Bucannon, & the recent DB's, Harris, Collins, Woodson, & I'll even say the one's we have now. In my memory, GB was never Solid on Pass Defense. GB has mainly been an Offensive team, & I'm just going back through the BF years. I guess that's what I was trying to say, when I questioned the DB drafting over the yearS.

Clay's picture

I hear you on that....for whatever reason teams seem to trend on one side of the ball. Bears generally have solid defense and special teams whereas the Pack's strength is offense.

Yes my bad I meant Willie Wood and Adderly*

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Clay, You seem like a Decent guy. You reply with respect, & I like that. I'll pose this question to you, for your opinion, & others can chime in if they wish. Some of you are college educated, I am not. I am Union & Proud of it. That means I worked hard for 40 years & took orders from College (management), who did nothing more during the week, but tell me, I wasn't working hard enough.

Here's what I think needs to happen with the NFL in the Near Future. The Packers are Union, but unlike every other Union Shop in the country, they don't have a Pay Scale, other than a minimum. When I retired 6 yr's ago, Class a machinists were making $22 HR.+ benefits Journeymen or Skilled Trades were making $28-$30 + benefits.

I think the NFL is going to have to come up with a pay scale just as all other Unions do. It goes like this. College people (management) probably will not agree. IN a Union shop, everyone gets paid the same.

IMO, Your QB, is your skilled trade. If you want to pay Starting QB's $20 Mill a year, all other starters get paid the same. It doesn't matter if you are a WR, or a Guard. If you're going to pay Cobb or Nelson $7-$10 Mill a year, it's at the expense of a $3 Mill Guard, who is Protecting the Franchise. As a Union Man, I disagree with that. All other players would also have their own equal pay scale. If a starter goes down, the guy who steps in gets starter pay. The starter gets secondary pay, as long as he's injured. That's how it works for all other Union people. Why should it be any different for the NFL players Union.

Management makes all the rules. The Players union negotiates the Best contract & pay scale they can, & then the Players vote on it, & everyone lives with the results. That's how all Unions operate.

I don't expect the college (management) people to agree here, because management believes in individual pay. I think at some point, it will have to come to this. IMO, it's what's fair. Every starter on the team, is equally important to the team, & should be paid as such. In a Union, other than your skilled trades, everyone is paid the same. It doesn't matter what you know, or how good you are. The pay is the same.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw this out, & if nothing else, Some of you guy's can stop calling one another names & start talking like adults, whether you agree with one another or not.

I actually do believe, some sort of Equal Pay Scale is in the future of the NFL.

Stroh's picture

Packers at least for the most part have always been a team that had a great QB who led high scoring offenses. That lends itself to other teams trying to keep up w/ the scoring and ability of the offense led by the great QB. This leads other teams to throw more and thus to poorer ranked pass defenses, at least by yards. May not always have be the case but it does skew the stats a bit.

ray nichkee's picture

Hayward looked good for one year but let's not get to carried away with the new guys. It's no different than the the fairies calling out early busts.

WKUPackFan's picture

I saw enough to believe Hayward is an impact player. Excellent instincts, willing tackler, good on the blitz (with one crucial miss). He was sorely missed last season.

4thand1's picture

You are right on WK, Hayward has instincts you just can't coach. For a rookie to do what he did was amazing.

Stroh's picture

I agree about everything except him being a good blitzer. Hayward didn't have a single sack and whiffed on the one easy chance he had. Maybe he'll get better at it, but right now I don't think he's a good blitzer at all.

Arlo's picture

"I saw enough"

Where? --- On TV?
The same that everyone saw but somehow you have it all figured out. --- Hilarious.

4thand1's picture

F U, if you're down on a kid that was in the running for DROY, nothing will make your miserable ass happy. WTF! You ARE the biggest TROLL ever!
ARTROLL, every troll takes a back seat to you. Congratulations.

Eraserhead's picture

And 4thand1 shows his class once more by resorting to foul language and insults! Stop acting like a Lions fan. You are shaming Packer fans worlwide!!

Stroh's picture

For a troll like arloser... Damn right!

Would like to think higher of you, but your making it difficult.

Eraserhead's picture

C'mon Stroh I'm just voicing my opinion. Not everything is gloom and doom about the Packers, but we do have some holes to fix and you know it. My comments proved to be controversial to some and so I've been the target of insults and trash talk, but that's not why I came here.

4thand1's picture

I remember a particular play Hayward made. He was covering a sideline route, looked at the players on the sidelines and saw them all looking up at the ball. He knew the ball was coming turned around and picked it off.

steven's picture

Yea... thats just incredible

Arlo's picture

The BS gets so deep, I can smell it from here.

(You're "magical television" again, right? ---LOL)

4thand1's picture

When its an actual play it can't be BS. Maybe if were on the radio it would make you happy. I doubt it though, seeing what a miserable bitch you are.

Arlo's picture

We all watch the same game at the same time but yet you & an alter-ID are the only ones who saw it.

Only a troll like you would make something up & think others will believe you. Sad.

4thand1's picture

It came right out of Hayward's mouth after the game. Suck it ARTROLL. We don't need or want fans like you. Glad you're not a Packer fan.

Arlo's picture

Just a link to a quote. Do you have it?

I didn't think so. (only in your head ---again)

4thand1's picture

Nobody has to prove shit to you. Just like the DE to OLB,ZING,ZING,ZING................BOOM. You lose again, ARTROLL.

Eraserhead's picture

Arlo, please disregard 4thand1. He is a known troll.

Stroh's picture

4thand1... Please disregard ArLoser and the pencil known as eraser. They know not what they speak!

Eraserhead's picture

Woah, I think I know why you have a personal hater Mr. Strohman. I've been trying to act classy and I even defended you by calling you "a decent dude." Yet you come around and insult me! Completely uncalled for.

The TKstinator's picture

Stay classy, Cheesehead TV.

GreenBaySavant's picture

http://www.twincities.com/ci_21827474/green-bay-packers-rookie-casey-hay...

Arlo, the quote is in the article if you can read far enough.

4thand1's picture

I read Vic Ketchman's all the time and he was talking about the play. He said he never heard a d-back make that claim before. He was impressed with the rookie.

4thand1's picture

Columns on the Packers.com

Eraserhead's picture

Vic is a man and a pimp!! Love the old sturgeon fisherman.

Arlo's picture

"Mike McCarthy Looking for DL Datone Jones, Josh Boyd to Make Second-Year Leap"

This isn't the first time MM has used this line, --- Ref: Perry, Worthy, Sherrod, Green, Neal.

Is it "cross your fingers" time again at 1265 Lombardi?? --- How about a back-up plan in season 2014. (ref: the QB & safety fiascos of 2013)

Point Packer's picture

I was unbelievably un-impressed with Do-Nothing Jones last year. Guy just disappeared for long stretches of the season. Yeah, Stroh - repeat your 3.5 sacks line. I'll repeat my nine tackles talking point. A the end of the day, the guy was anything but disruptive and got his ass rocked off the LOS on a consistent basis.

That being said, I'll hold out hope.

I liked what I saw from Boyd during the second half of the season. Lower ceiling? Sure. Effort guy? At this point, yes.

Stroh's picture

I never said Jones doesn't have a lot of improving to do. But to write him off cuz he had a sub-par rookie year at a position that takes a couple years is foolish at best. He showed in limited opportunities that he could get some sack production. He needs to get better vs the run no doubt about it. Never said otherwise.

Point Packer's picture

Not writing him off, but re-watched a fair amount of the 2013 games recently and came away less impressed with his play than I was at first glance. Which is saying something.

Packs needs him to step up next season. Hoping he has it in him.

Stroh's picture

Well if you recognized that DL and OLB take a couple years to develop as players you wouldn't be calling him things like " Do-Nothing Jones". Instead of being continually pessimistic and negative, a realistic fan is optimistic while recognizing he needs to improve.

Point Packer's picture

Thanks for the lecture.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Eraserhead, I have homes in both WI & Henderson, NV., which is 9 miles from the strip. I retired 6 yr's ago. My wife doesn't have to work, but she has a very good job, & doesn't wish to give it up yet. We are planning to sell the WI. house next year, & move full time to Vegas. I've been hearing that for the last 4 years.

Eraserhead's picture

Cool. Good luck to you both.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

The TKstinator, I wasn't in any way trying to mock any of GB'S drafts. I was mearly trying to point out that over the years, GB. always has seemed to struggle with the pass, regardless of who we've had in the defensive backfield. That was the point I was trying to make, because now we are talking about probably drafting a safety. I used a few bad examples of drafts, which was a mistake. We've had many more good examples.

Eraserhead's picture

TOM is among the select few in Cheesehead TV who have class!!!

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

THANK YOU!! I've always tried to treat others as I would like to be treated.

Eraserhead's picture

Anytime my friend. Anyone who shows class among a bunch of trolls deserves some praise.

The TKstinator's picture

Hey man, no offense taken.
No worries. We all want to see GB back on top.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

The TKSTINATOR, I'm with you. Last I looked, the Future Bet on GB WAS 20-1 to win next years SB. I'll be there in a couple of weeks again. I won't pass that up.

sum ding wong's picture

aren't we all Mike aren't we all hoping.

Eraserhead's picture

RACIST.

4thand1's picture

There aren't many of us who have lived through the 70's and 80's in here that support the Packers. The last 20 years have been great for the most part and we've come to expect winning season after winning season. Throw in 2 SB titles and a SB loss, which really sucked, we are a pretty lucky fan base. Living through 2 terrible decades sucked big time. With the salary cap era almost any team can win especially if you have "the man". We have Rodgers for a long time. I don't let my expectations get to high, but the rest of the NFCN is chasing us. Stay relatively healthy and a couple of more studs on D and there's no reason why this team can't win at least 2 titles in the Rodgers era. Stay thirsty my friends.

The TKstinator's picture

"Stay thirsty my friends."
LOL

Eraserhead's picture

Get off 4thand1 you troll he's a swell guy and my new bud.

The TKstinator's picture

What, you think I'm a clown? Do i amuse you? What's so funny about me, huh?

(Anyone?)

Hank Scorpio's picture

"Throw in 2 SB titles and a SB loss, which really sucked, we are a pretty lucky fan base."

I still hate the Broncos to this day. What's it been, 15 years?

Seadderal isn't at the top of my non-Packer favorites either.

Sadly, the stadium was not consumed by a sinkhole on SB Sunday. I was rooting for it, tho.

Barry's picture

McCarthy's "versatility" goal for so many positions seems anti productive. It seems like he wants "jack of all trades and masters of none" type of players. He probably gets those dumb ideas from the worst ST coach in the NFL...........Then he applies to the O and D lines too???

Load the team with solid ST players who are below average at everything else. But somehow our STs still underperform? Maybe, they have bad coaching?

Draft an End and play him at LB?

4thand1's picture

Guess you missed the big fiasco we had about college de's playing lb in here. It happens all the time in the NFL.

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