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Michael Sam Reportedly Meets with Packers at Missouri Pro Day

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Michael Sam Reportedly Meets with Packers at Missouri Pro Day

Citing a report from ESPN's Shelly Smith, Nate Ulrich of Akron Beacon Journal says the Green Bay Packers met with openly gay outside linebacker/defensive end Michael Sam at Missouri's pro day on Thursday:

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PackersPlanet's picture

Not sure how PC we are around here but let me be the first to ask, if you're a gay dude, in the dudes locker room, that's probably pretty awesome. I mean, if I could dress and shower in the womens locker room I'd be at the gym everyday.

Ibleedgreenmore's picture

I saw some reports they said he is a 5th rounder and has fallen fast.

Clay Zombo's picture

I tell you what, if GB gets a 4th round comp pick for Greg Jennings instead of a 3rd, I would like to see them take Michael Sam with that pick. He might fall to the 5th but I doubt he lasts 21 picks into the 5th round.

He looks like a pretty good football player to me, that's all that matters. If his presence makes people feel uncomfortable in the lockerroom, that's no concern of mine.

Clay Zombo's picture

I appreciate your opinion but I think your wrong. Not about the lack of agility, he is a little stiff but he looks plenty explosive to me, very compact body, long arms for his height, non stop motor, . He would be another hybrid type DE/Rush LB, definitely more leverage and strength than speed and agility though, similar to MIke Neal.(1st yr OLB 5 sacks)

So what if he can't turn the corner as a speed rusher, don't ask him to. Make him set the edge in the run game and bull rush him when he's allowed to pass rush. We need guys that can stop the run too, we do have a good amount of pass rushers on the team, not a lot of good run stuffers .

Were talking 4th or 5th round here, not looking for an all pro at that point just a good football player, anything more than that is just a bonus.

Clay Zombo's picture

If we were still talking about a straight 3-4 defense before MM decided we needed to be more multiple I would agree with you but I see us going with more even fronts 4-3 or 4-4 so we can get the most out of guys like Neal, Perry, Daniels, Worthy and even guys like Mulumba who are more 4-3 DEs and DTs than base 3-4 DEs or OLBs.

The most important thing to me McCarthy said about the changes on defense was about playing more to the strengths of his players and if that really proves to be true than we will see a lot more D line guys on the field playing different roles than were used to with the 3-4.

Clay Zombo's picture

Nice interpretation of the expected changes. Frankly I don't see why they can't use both 3-4 and 4-3 concepts with the types of players we have on the Dline.

Technically a 4-3 or not its still 4 defensive lineman on the field at times and that's all that matters to me. I see the defense being more athletic, more explosive and I hope more aggressive in the front 7.

In the old defense Capers would never allow guys like Nick Perry to put his hand in the dirt as an OLB but then you would see Dom stand a guy up like Worthy who had no business rushing from a 2 pt stance at all. It just all seemed so backwards to me.

Was Capers just being stubborn and not wanting to change his defense or is he incapable of recognizing a players stengths and weaknesses?

Evan's picture

Seriously, dude, this bullshit again?

Evan's picture

You are completely incapable of talking about this without sounding like a total idiot. Whether or not that's your intention, I don't know, but you should know that.

Clay Zombo's picture

At least Stroh kept it about football.

What the hell do you care if a bunch of overpaid kids playing a game for a living have to endure showering with a gay man. Its none of your concern. It may be a big deal for a little bit in the media but it will pass.

You make it sound like Sam is gonna be sitting there naked drooling at the sight of all the shlongs in the room. I think maybe that says more about you than anything. Homophobic much?

4thand1's picture

If Clowney was gay I'd sure wish he'd fall to 21. I heard Sam sucks, oops, I meant as a football player. Lmfao, So will fans have to stop yelling ,"YOU SUCK", if a lot more players come out as being gay?

4thand1's picture

Ha, some of you missed the point. If a super star player was a serial killer you'd be happy to have him on your team, if he got 20+ sacks and was a dominant force on the field. Or a QB throwing 50 td's and only 2 picks. But if its an average Joe who is gay it'll be , "we don't want him, to many distractions".

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

I probably shouldn't comment here, because I admit to being ignorant on this issue. I do have a comment & a question. I'm not sure all the above comments are accurate. they may be, but I'm not sure they are.

My comment would be that the NFL will more likely than not have to deal with this more & more as the years go on. I'm sure more & more players will admit to being gay. That's the way it seems to be going in the country, so why should the NFL be any different. Both players & fans will have to accept it.

My question is this, & I posed this question to a friend, & he couldn't answer it, but said it was a good question. I don't know anyone who is Gay. This is why I questioned the above posters comments. "Are Gay men attracted to all men, or just other Gay men? I hope it's an Honest Question. I mean No Bashing of any kind. Just asking a question? , Not knowing the lifestyle.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Wow. I didn't find anything remotely homophobic in Stroh's posts. Tom B's accusation of bigotry seems unjust and without any foundation. Tom Hoffman is probably right to write that there is likely to be more openly gay players in the future. I don't know what the dynamics are in a NFL locker room, but the NFL is just going to have to find ways to deal with this issue.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Tom B., I try to stay neutral on this post whatever the subject. I agree with some of everyone's opinions, & I disagree with some of everyone's opinions. I don't necessarily disagree with what you are trying to say here, but you shouldn't, IMO try to speak for everyone. Maybe someone should ask Sam how he feels about it. I'm sure it can't be a comfortable situation for him either. This is a subject that is best left up to the NFL & the players. The time could very well have come when maybe 20%, 10 players on a team might be Gay. At this point no one knows, but I have to believe, that at some point in the future, it will be known. As I've said, I'm ignorant to this situation, & my comment & $1.20 might get you a cup of coffee. Maybe Gay's don't feel comfortable with Straights. I can't see this from a Gay perspective, but maybe that's where those of us who are not Gay could learn how they look on this issue. Unfortunately, on this post, there is a lot of different opinions & Bad Language that is used. I don't like it, but until something changes, it will continue. As I've said a number of times, I'm No One's enemy here, & try to evaluate everyone's opinion, including Yours & Strohs. In both cases, I agree with some stuff, & disagree whole heartedly with others. IMO Tom, you shouldn't be speaking out on this subject, or at least gather more information before you do. At some point, this issue will resolve itself, without anyone's help on this post. If this issue is going to be addressed or debated, the Gay perspective needs to be included, at least I think so. JMO

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Tom B., Your reply to me was respectful, I appreciate that. What is between You & Stroh, is between you & him. For the Record, I am
LAS VEGAS-TOM. Tom, I too spoke out on this issue, in somewhat of a different way, but it was to your thinking, only in a different way. I felt at the time that this was a Union issue, & a matter for the Players Union to vote on. I felt that as a Union Member everyone should have a say in this. Well, I was told in No Uncertain Terms, that the Non-Gay players had nothing to say on this issue. I'm retired, but I posed the question to one of my former Union Reps, & to my surprise, I was WRONG. This is Not a Union Issue for a vote. This issue falls under the discrimination clause in the Players Union Contract. Tom, Like IT Or Not, under current law, regardless of whether you are speaking for the Majority of Non-Gay's, & regardless of how you personally feel, if you call for Separate Showers for Gay's & Straights, you are, I Hate to say it, Guilty of Discrimination. This is why I tried telling you to be careful about speaking out on this issue. The Majority in this instance, cannot impose their will on the Minority. I know you may not accept this, but as I was told, This is not a Gender issue. This is a Discrimination Issue, & it falls under that clause in the Unions Contract. What you are calling for, may happen in the future, probably not in my lifetime, IMO it won't happen until & if the Minority wants it. Whether it's, Gay Rights, Civil Rights, or Nativity Scenes at Christmas, that's the way this Country was set up. The Majority cannot impose their will on the Minority. I personally don't agree with the Gay Lifestyle, but I am trying to see their side of this. This issue has to be very uncomfortable for someone who is Gay. Anyway, as I've said before, I try to see & evaluate everyone's view point.
I very much understand your views on this. Never the less Tom, once again, whether you like it or not, this is a Discrimination issue.

4thand1's picture

You're right Tom, he came after his college career was over. (publically) Stroh is right that he came out (privately ) to his teammates before his senior year. They are 2 totally different things. Hell his own father didn't know until the end of the season, but his teammates did. End of story.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I tend to agree Kuhn gets a 1 yr deal for $1 million or maybe less and makes the team. Kuhn clearly does some positive things (which you outlined in your post). MM and TT will decide whether he is worth a roster spot. I have a lower opinion of his value than some of the commenters, but at least IMO Kuhn will be active on game days if he is re-signed, and that's worth something. For me, it might come down to who the other last few cuts are so I can compare Kuhn to those players' potential. GB might wait to re-sign Kuhn to see what the draft and UDF agency brings. One of the more interesting decisions TT & MM will make.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

You guys need to chill out.

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