I am not sure what the point is?

If a defensive end is single teamed he is supposed to get a sack? That’s silly. Left Tackles get paid too, just ask Chad Clifton who has done a pretty good job on Jared Allen in the three times he has faced him…one on one.

I think the premise of your article is just plain silly, but that is not a personal reflection on you.

Kampman is not, in fact, over rated. He is rated right where he should be…about in the top 8 to 12 defensive ends in a 4-3 scheme in the NFL, same as Allen. NO one that I know of has been so bold to say he deserves to be mentioned in the same breadth as Strahan or Merriman…right?

I just get tired of Kampman’s critics constently boxing him in a space called “try hard overachieving nice guy”
Fact is that he has consistently delivered over the last 5 years. If those sacks were so easy, than there should be a bunch of other guys that have also gotten them to prove he is not a special player.

the numbers don’t add up

Great topic and thank you for taking on the ridiculious and false statement that Kampman is “always” double or triple teamed. He very rarely gets double teamed. He is a very good player and at his current salary i think he is a great fit on this team. But I hate when fans through out false “facts” jst to prove a point. I wish those fans could have watched the NFL networks replay of the game at Minnesota yesterday. Kampman wasn’t doubled teamed once i the first half (small sample i know)…..anywyas…. keep up the great posts…some peopel only see the world asd black and white.

Look at this clip -http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-.....ckers-2008
It’s a perfect example why you’re wrong about both Kampman and Collins. 4th Quarter, Packers leading by a TD, a 3rd and long in definite favor of the defense – and both Kampman and Collins do absolutely nothing. In fact, Collins completely blows it by losing his depth and letting Steve Smith get behind him, the number one cardinal sin at that point in the game, and indeed for a safety playing deep in general. Again and again we saw this type of thing last year from both Kampman and Collins.
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And to all the commentators who love to go on and on about how Kampman was ‘double and triple teamed every play’ – you’ll note he’s going against a second year tackle, one on one, and losing.

I kind of agree with Bucky here. I just don’t think you are a good evaluator of talent on the defensive side of the ball Aaron. Kampman is Jared Allen, they are indistiguishable…why do you even mention he was a throw in if not to tarnish him by association of draft status?

I have been amazed at your unfettered criticism of Collins as well….I think you just don’t like these guys, but you do a good job of dressing up your criticism in cogent thought. Between the lines you just don’t like them.

Which is odd because they both are in the top 5 of our best players

Jennings
Woodson
Kampman
Collins
Rodgers or some such. Did Kampman spit in your latte’? Did his mom copy your wife’s hairdo? Did Collins play your favorite Sinatra tune backwards?

Weird.

First, he rips on N. Collins, then points out all of AR’s flaws. Now he calls A. Kampman ‘great’ but not really & here are the reasons. Who’s next ??
“Charles is a great NFL CB but here are the reasons he’s not all that good.” Come on Aaron. Take down that poster of ‘Fran the Man’ that’s still up in your rec room. Aaron will tell you that the top 3 RBs in NFL history are Foreman, Smith & Peterson.
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Aaron, you’ve been exposed. That purpulish car in your driveway is evidence enough for me. (Note: this post is no more than an attempt at sarcasm directed at resident blogger. I do not want the “Purple People Eaters” showing up at my back door.)

I’ve said in the past that Kampman has sucked just as much as the rest of the Dline, and while there’s a bit of hyperbole there, I’ll stick by it. He’s not terrible, and he’s not “just a guy”- but not by much. He’s a hard worker, but not a difference-maker. As Aaron said, many of his sacks come when plays break down. That’s a credit to his motor, which is commendable, but not to his abilities. One of the other jobs of a D end (besides getting to the QB) is to control the edge; he really doesn’t do that very well at all.

I think Kampman is popular because, like Tauscher before him, he’s a guy that many Packer fans can identify with. Fairly low-key, a hard-working grinder, a midwesterner who likes to do the things that small town midwesterners like to do. There’s nothing wrong with that, but it doesn’t make him an elite defensive player. It just makes him popular.

Hell might not be elite in terms of the HOF greats, but in today’s game, hard pressed to say he isn’t in the argument for top 10 or 5 ends in the game.

He plays both the run and pass very solidly.. not many in the game can say that.. most do one or the other.. rare for players to be highly effective at both.

I wrote this a month ago, and still stand behind it. I agree that Kampman is a great asset, but in a contract year and putting him out of position, we stand to gain nothing if he is merely serviceable as an OLB and he decides to bolt.

As you say, he’s not an overpowering guy and is really an overachiever…but there is a team out there that is going to look at his stats and Pro Bowls and overpay for it…and we get something out of it.

I find it somewhat ironic that it was so important to squeeze a third-round pick of value out of Brett Favre, but some of us seem content to see Kampman go for nothing after this season.

My problem with this article is that it’s saying that he’s not as good as his reputation says, which is not true. He may be not as physical, which pretty much everybody knows, but he IS as good. Actually, sorry Aaron, but this article pisses me off, why not about Jolly or Pickett. About Harris, who’s a penalty machine? Hell, even Barnett deserves this for last year, at least more than Kampman, a 5th round pick that has estabilished himself as a premium player to all the league.

He has an average of 10.8 sacks since 2005, accounting for an average 29% of Packer sacks.

While Ware has an 13,37 sacks avg., he also has 29% of Cowboys sacks.

Merriman, excluding last season, has 13,16 for 25% of SD sacks.

Allen has 12,12 for 33%

And while I can’t compare tackles between LBs and DEs, Kampman has an 74 Tackle average in that spam, while Allen has 62,5. One can say Kampman plays the run better…

By stats, I DO have to account Allen, specially since he has played for KC and suceeded, but Kampman’s stats are close enough to the elite pass rushers…