14 Responses to “How Long Will It Take Capers?”

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Immediate impact because the talent is there. In 2007 the D was a fine unit despite the most consevative and predictable scheme ever. What gives with a Chicago guy dissing Al and Chuck? They are delusional about their secondary in Chitown, just like those who think Winfield is better than average.

bomdad said in July 23rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm

Interesting and thought provoking post. I have a very high degree of confidence in Capers and his system. Past performance is the most accurate predictor of future performance, and Capers passes that test.

The one thing that will be a question, a huge question, is wheter or not the Packers have the personnel to do the job. I get very anxious when I see OTA PR about guys who in their limited time playing are being are being touted as super stars (i.e. Thompson). So far, he has proved nothing other than he was a very ordinary first year player. Could he suceed? Sure, but you don’t build a defense around a guy who has no experience in the position he will play and very little success when he has played.

Other areas of concern would be Kampman (new position), Barnett (knee strength and weight as an ILB), Hawk (will he ever reach a level that would justify his high draft status), and overall Dline depth. I’m looking forward to seeing the guys in game situations and evaluate them more accurately. Until then, I’m hoping the group of individuals Capers has can be molded into the kind of team defense that made him a great pick for the DC position.

Ron La Canne said in July 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard you say this, Aaron, and it’s something I’ve been trying to explain to anyone who will listen to me: the Packers view Capers as their big free agent acquisition this year. Even if the job was offered to two other people before him, the first two guys were pretty damn good, also. It just happened to be a great year to need a defensive coordinator.

Heck, the NFC North has two potential d-coordinators as d-line coaches. That’s how good the market was. And before you knock Marinelli, he was a good enough for Tony Dungy to name him his assistant head coach in Tampa.

Jayme said in July 23rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm

2007 defense was a mirage. They played 3 teams over .500 that year compared to 2008 where they played 9 teams over .500. Injuries played a huge role last year but don’t kid yourself, the 07′ D was the same bad scheme, above average defense that played in 05′ and 06′. That scheme stunk….

CSS said in July 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm

Jayme – you’re preaching to the choir here on Capers. Talk to Andrew In Atlanta about my effusive praise of Capers… ;)
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I have also said, often, that Capers was the Packers’ Albert Haynesworth signing.

Aaron Nagler said in July 23rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm

CSS, your post only supports that in 07 the talent was enough to overcome the scheme. At points in 08, specifically against the Colts and the 3.5 qtrs of the Titans game, the D was in top form. Sanders/Bates scheme is nothing without two very good DEs, and losing Jenkins and KGB was too big of a blow.

bomdad said in July 23rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm

With the upgrades @ Minny and Chicago, a fast start is now manditory for the Pack. That means, of course, that Capers 3-4 must be working. We will have some offensive shootouts this year, but it won’t be againest them.

retiredgrampa said in July 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm

IMHO, GB’s defense doesn’t have to be hitting on all cylinders early on for GB to win more than lose. GB still brings a potent offense that alone can offset any initial start-up problems for the D.
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An area of concern that I have is this. “What will be the approach by MM in pre-season games? I’ve gotta think the old approach of saving everyone from potential injury by restricting their pre-season play has to be quelled. GB needs to pick their starters & play them……..in preseason. I’d hate to see MM carry the preseason into the first 2 or 3 games of the regular season. You don’t want injuries in preseason but to be overly-cautious may lead to a slow start – especially on defense.

WoodyG said in July 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm

I’m glad that he landed in GB and Mike Nolan went to Denver. I think that will turn out to be A-OK.

MC said in July 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm

I hope that GB plays the Titans with starters the whole first half. That’s what the Titans usually do and they had a pretty good record last season =). And then I hope Flynn wins the game this time too.

Aaron Rogders said in July 23rd, 2009 at 2:58 pm

How can anyone place Capers success on the talent he’s had?? He started up a Jacksonville team with scrubs off the street and made them a success. That was a just formed expansion team that immediately was successful in part due to him. I think if he can do that there’s a chance he can be successful with our talent. Obviously that’s not a guarantee he can do it again but I like his chances.

Nick said in July 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm

Nick – he started up Carolina and Houston. He came on board to Jacksonville after he was fired by Carolina.

Aaron Nagler said in July 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm

Ah. That’s a bit of a difference thanks for the clarification. I am still optimistic about a strong start.

Nick said in July 23rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm

I pray that this new defense has all the kinks worked out by week 4.

jerseypackfan said in July 23rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm

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