The other factor: this is a good OL draft for depth. I expect a replacement at OC for Myers. Not for this year but next. Positional flexibility will be a bonus. I do think they’re set at OT unless value drops to them early.

And let’s not forget. They need TWO LBs and another S if not two. Two of which need to start. Those positions do not have the quality depth that OT and IOL do in this draft.

I would guess (and it’s only a guess) that S and LB are what take up two and maybe three picks of our first two days in the draft.

I guess I can go along not drafting someone 6'9 or 350 lbs, but alot of OTs are 6'7 & 6'8 and 325 to 335 lbs. Players are bigger and getting moreso. Would we turn down Alt if he fell?

A good indicator as to what a person will do in the future - is what they have done in the past. That is why I think it is important to pay attention to the physical parameters - per position - as set by the Packers (which the author has outlined).

Historically, the premier OTs are found on Day 1 and 2 of the draft. Afterwards it's the IOL - which has proven to be right in the Packers wheelhouse. This year may deviate somewhat from the norm due to the number of quality IOL - which Teams seem to be thirsting for (if free agency is a sign).

I think that the Packers will go heavy O-line in this draft - by utilizing 3-4 of their picks.They need to replenish their O-line depth and try to establish a higher floor. Thus I expect that the Packers to draft on Day One & Two - 2 O-linemen. Plus on Day Three - 1-2 O-linemen. Plus a handful of UDFAs.

Very interesting article. The author shoots down most of the O-linemen who have been mentioned as possibilities for the Packers in the first or second round. I wonder if they might step a little bit outside of their usual parameters and take one of these guys anyway, but the safe money is on them sticking to their usual plan.

I only recognize one name from the list of players who meet their usual standards and are expected to be taken later: Roger Rosengarten. His stock seems to be on the rise, and I even saw him being taken late in the first round in one mock draft. He played OT in college but fits the parameters of either guard or tackle for the Packers--probably more of a guard. Could he be a possibility in the second round?

I look forward to hearing what people who study the draft closely think of all this.

Who cares about MO-
Cooper Beebe would be a great pick.
I have him @58, and he's just what we need..
Even
Kiran Amegadjjie Yale.

My guy is Power's Johnson. Tough, mean and nasty. Immediately competing against Myers and Ryan for a starting job. Could be an immediate starter at two positions, give depth and fills center when Myers rookie contract runs out this year. I would take him at 25.

Alt, fuaga, Latham, and Fashanu will all most likely be gone.
Fauntanu and Guyton I'd put at less than 50/50. I'd have no problem taking either at #25.
Mims I think is going to fall some, but I'd put him outside of the Packers top board. A bit too heavy. Not a lot of experience and some writeups that have said there could be some personal stuff.
I don't think JPJ or Frazier are going to fall in the athletic/physical enough traits for the Packers.

If the board falls a certain way and the Packers are looking for OL in the 1st:
These guys that should be in play @25 - Graham Barton, Jordan Morgan, King Sua
Barton and Morgan are most likely NFL inside guys only (sub 33' arms) but can play outside in a pinch. Barton the most plug and play ready.
I think King Sua starts RG and can eventually go to RT. My personal favorite. Only Sophomore. Highest ceiling. I'm not dinging him for 5 lbs when he can move like that. Sewell was 331 and there is no problem with him at RT. Sua the most likely to drop to 41.

Compare all the RAS scores (physical/athletic) of King Sua and Penei Sewell and Elgton Jenkins. Scary Identical. Jenkins was the lightest by about 15-20 lbs. Sewell the shortest arms. The rest very similar. Sua biggest weakness right now is experience.

Guys I like after those would be OT Roger Rosengarten, OG Brandon Coleman, OT Blake Fisher. Probably 2nd/3rd rd, 3rd/4th rd, 3rd rd respectively.

I hope they put the scale and tape measure away. They must upgrade over Myers. JPJ @ 25 or Fraizer at 41.

These are great problems to have! Gutey needs to pick 3 that are good. Can he get all of them as sleepers, in bargain draft spots? The odds say no. One? Ok. Two? Much less likely. Sheer mathematical probability says three is vanishingly improbable. So if Gutey's #1 O lineman is still available in round 2 or 3?

That's a good problem to have :)

There aren't that many positions of need left, but the few that are really need to be better than just good, at the NFL level. This would be a great year to draft 2 or 3 great O linemen on day 3. If Gutey can do that we might not know until 2026, mid-season.

I expect this off-season to be at least as exciting as last, and the regular season doesn't need to start with the team playing all that much better to translate to a lot more wins in the first 8 games.

GPG!!

All for Powers-Johnson at 25 should Dejean be gone, maybe Chop Robinson as 3rd option. At 41 Wilson, Cooper, or Colston. T'Vondre Sweat if available has to be a consideration at 58, if hes gone than Nubin, Sainristil, or Max Melton maybe. 88 and 91 I'd want Kitchens, OG McCormick, Dadrion Taylor-Demerson.

I see Gute drafting at least 3 OL in this draft. They do need depth but also potential upgrades across the line. Bring in 3 plus and let them compete.

After thinking about some of the excellent points some people have made, I can no longer support Graham Barton at #25, because although he can play different positions, he's eventually going to be a Center, and you just can't spend a first round pick on interior offensive linemen.

I got Kool Aid at #25 today, and Edgerrin Cooper at #41. Then I did a small trade down at#58 to #62 and I got Amegadjie. I got Brooks at #88, Mahogany at #91, and Jaylen Wright with the extra pick in the trade down. I'll take it.

Given that the team is ready to win now and there are 5 functional OL starters in place, I can’t see them spending a D1 on a backup. There are too many other pressing needs. Unless they’re planning a crazy reshuffle (like Tom to OC) or someone like Fashanu falls in their lap, I’d bet they’ll draft defense first and address OL on day 2 and/or 3.

Well we have witnessed Gute pull the trigger on interior OL twice in the 2nd round so I could see him doing that again. I'm not against taking a great player in the 1st round no matter the position except K, P and LS obviously. Especially when your picking outside the top 20 which in most years is where the number of 1st round talents kind of run out. This year I read quite a few opinions saying there are 18 to 20 true first rounders max.

After pick 20 it just comes down to that 5th yr option when considering the cost of extending a draft pick like WR or DT maybe who are north of $30 million a year these days. For instance, instead of extending Kenny Clark I could see GB drafting his replacement vs paying him $30+ million on his next contract. Especially with Love in line for a relatively monster contract of his own in the near future.

Only so much money to go around.

My 2 cents - NO WAY do the Packers pick an Oline in any of the first 3 rounds. We need to build the Defensive linebacker/Dline/ safety etc - Get the development Oline projects later rounds. They are not going to start even if a first or second rounder with what we have now - so get this defense up and running.

I'm going to voice a minority opinion here (just because).

Everybody seems to talk about Rounds 1-3 for linemen, yet Brian Gutekunst has only used three picks in those rounds on offensive linemen over his six drafts and none of the were in the first round.

Here are the linemen drafted in the Brian Gutekunst era (highest to lowest draft position):

Elgton Jenkins, C, Round 2, PIck 44 - 2019
Josh Myers, C, Round 2, Pick 62 - 2021
Sean Rhyan, OL, Round 3, Pick 92 - 2022
Zach Tom, OL, Round 4, Pick 140 - 2022
Royce Newman, G, Round 4, Pick 142 - 2021
Cole Madison, G, Round 5, Pick 138 - 2018
Jon Runyan Jr., T, Round 6, Pick 192 - 2020
Jake Hanson, C, Round 6, Pick 208 - 2020
Simon Stepaniak, T, Round 6, Pick 209 - 2020
Cole Van Lanen, OL, Round 6, Pick 214 - 2021
Rasheed Walker, OL, Round 7, Pick 249 - 2022

The Packers did not pick an offensive lineman in 2023, his sixth draft.

If Brian stays true to form, then I do not expect to see pick #25 go to an offensive lineman. That's not to say that he can't deviate from his past history, but with more pressing needs at linebacker and defensive secondary, I just don't see him picking a lineman in round 1.

Round 2, with picks 41 and 58. It's possible that one of those two picks could be an offensive lineman, but with a deeper draft of offensive linemen, I really don't expect to see a Packers drafted lineman before Round 4.

The Packers have the following draft picks:
Round 1: 25
Round 2: 41 and 58
Round 3: 88 and 91
Round 4: 126
Round 5: 169
Round 6: 202 and 219
Round 7: 245 and 255

Of the 11 offensive linemen selected under Brian Gutekunst's watch, two were guards (Madison and Newman), three were centers (Jenkins, Hanson and Myers), two were tackles (Runyan and Stepaniak) and four were listed as "OL" on the Pro Football reference page, which I'm assuming is a hybrid designation that is fairly recent (Van Lanen, Rhyan, Tom and Walker), so the theory that the author posed of the Packers only drafting tackles and converting to interior offensive line doesn't hold as much weight, though I think we can all agree that the Packers like linemen who are versatile.

Here are the linemen that are confirmed that the Packers interviewed at the All-Star Games [PFF Rank in Brackets]:

Donovan Jennings, OL, USF (Shrine Bowl) [238]
Deiyantei Powell-Woods, OL, Central Michigan (Tropical Bowl) [No grade]

Here are the linemen that are confirmed that the Packers interviewed at the NFL Scouting Combine:

Taliese Fuaga, OL, Oregon State [12]
Graham Barton, OL, Duke [24]
Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU [45]

Only one offensive lineman, Zak Zinter, Guard, Michigan, [157] has been invited to a Top 30 visit.

Knowing the past history between Top 30 Visits and how our GM uses them to get more familiar with players, the Packers taking Zinter at either 126 or 169, if he's still on the draft board at either of those positions, is really the only thing that I'm almost sure about with the way he runs the draft board.

Jennings and Powell-Woods are usually cursory looks at All-Star games. I don't read too much into that. If they do get drafted by the Packers, it one or both of them could come off at either 245 or 255 if Brian sees enough draft and development value with either of them.

Combine visits with the three mentioned are the ones that the team could take if they fall to #25 and if they are the best option available when the team makes their selection.

My best guess is that offensive linemen will be taken with all or some of picks 126, 169, 202 and 219.

The Packers generally choose players who have been to at least one All-Star game and the Combine. The original pool of players who fit this criteria is 69. When you eliminate the players who will probably be off the board by the time the Packers select in Round 4 (assuming they pass on an OL in Rounds 1-3), we can probably eliminate about 20 players from the pool.

Out of the remaining 50 or so, I'm sure we can eliminate more from consideration based on RAS alone. (I just haven't done it yet.) By the time the Packers scouts and GMs put their Big Board together that there will only be about 20-25 candidates considered throughout all seven rounds.

I'm sure the names of the three interviewed at the Combine are on their board for Rounds 1 and 2, Zinter is probably on the board for Rounds 4 and 5.

Others to keep an eye on are:

- Cooper Beebe, OL, Kansas State
- Tanor Bortolini, OL, Wisconsin
- Frank Crum, OL, Wyoming
- Kingsley Oguakun, OL, Florida
- Zach Frazier, OL, West Virginia
- Matt Goncalves, OL, Pitt
- Garret Greenfield, OL, South Dakota State (probably with input from Tucker Kraft)
- LaDarius Henderson, OL, Michigan
- Roger Rosengarten, OL, Washington

I'm sure there are more on the list, but these are the ones that stick out to me as potential Green Bay Packers draft picks in Rounds 4-6. They have all been seen at All Star Games and the Combine. Some (Bortolini and Henderson) have also been seen at their schools Pro Days. My best guess is that Zak Zinter and two of the players on this list (maybe three) end up as Green Bay Packers draft picks.

This is a "Give a shoutout for Cooper Beebe" to be GBs first pick, and multiple reasons he is better than Graham Barton. Barton is a popular choice for GB because of his versatility and the ability to play 3 positions. My question is does he play them better than some other prospects that can be chosen later. The 2 players I suggest are easily better draft "values" because they can be chosen later, and they are better players @ multiple positions, but specifically OG. Cooper Beebe and a later pick, Mason McCormick.

Beebe is a better pick for GB because the majority of the snaps Beebe or Barton would play will be @ OG.

Nobody ever mentions that Cooper Beebe played 463 snaps @ RT his soph year. And 859 snaps @ LT as a junior. He played 1531 snaps @ LG his last 2 years @ Kansas. Playing 2 years @ OT he gave up 3 sacks and in 2 years of OG he gave up 1 sack. Barton gave up 10 sacks while playing LT.

Barton gets hyped a lot for playing those 2 positions, OT/OG, but would mainly kick inside @ GB. I think Beebe is absolutely better than Barton as OG. And arguably better @ OT too. At this point playing OC would be a tossup, but if Beebe is better @ OG, he would be a better Center too. Barton probably goes late first round. Beebe probably is there @ GBs #41. McCormick probably early Day 3.

King Sua would be another player who is probably a better OG candidate than Barton and definitely a better OT as well. And also, no first-round pick is needed.

If Gutey could find a trade partner, ideally to move to end of first or top 10 of the second round, we would gain another second or at worst an early 3rd rounder. And probably another later pick. We could grab Beebe and our LB choice with those first 2 picks and this draft would be off to the races.

One thing that bugs me is that there is the general opinion that Barton can play all spots at a high level.
According to his profile, he has played LT only. While he did well, there are others rated lower who graded out higher.
Big transition to center for example if one has never played there.
What level of competition has he gone up against?
Not saying he is a bad player but I feel there are better options.

Bottom line is: do the Packers change what they do with their OL because they now have 3 bigger backs under contract (Jacobs, Dillon, and Wilson) and only one of them has close to the speed to threaten the edge in the wide zone run game (Wilson...and he's the project)? Dillon's not that guy, and Jacobs is more of an A/B gap runner than an outside guy?

They need to find a speed guy to threaten the edges in the draft.