Gut Reactions: Week 4
By Aaron Nagler on Sep 24, 2012 with 163 Comments
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If you had a choice who would you be Tuesday morning?
1)Ref# 26
2)Roger Goodell???????
Oh I am sure that wonderful Rodger will have some pleasant thing to say like “We have total faith in our Refs and as we all know this is not a perfect game” Maybe we should take Goodell’s paycheck for every mistake that coast a game and say “Dear Rodger as we all know nothing is perfect and we just could not see you getting paid, p.s we are sorry!!!!
Goodell. He makes 7 digits a year and in the end it will be the refs’ greed that soiled the Shield.
I’m usually grumpy and unapproachable after a heartbreaking Packers loss. I can’t stop laughing after this one it was one gigantic joke…
feel free to leave a message for nfl commish roger goodell at (212) 450 2027
Or call side judge Lance Easley at 805-938-9144.
left a few already. not yelling or cussing, just letting him know i’m out til he fixes this.
Keep calling goodells office at 212-450-2027. Leave him a shitstorm to shovel out this week.
Why the fuck did they have Wilson giving play by play commentary post-game? Hearing him talk about the great play Tate made was just rubbing salt in the wound.
He sounded like a moron giving Tate all of that credit as if he came down with the ball.
I had little respect for Pete Carroll before this game. I have none now.
“Integrity” is not a word in his vocabulary.
Get a grip! If we pissed our pants like you guys are doing, everytime we had a controversial play go against us… well, we’d sound like Packer fans. Tell you what, you give us back superbowl 40… we’ll give you back this one!
Right he was dancing down the side line like a little school girl at the end. Then hes right next to the ref when he stuck with the TD. That was just classless. We get it you havent won very many games Pete but seriously show composure. MM would absolutely never do that.
I think that was probably the point!
Jennings (Greg), “The refs did a great job.” Cute. Maybe better, “Well, actually we got screwed. Toe curlingly reamed. Broke-backed.” Didn’t feel one way or the other about Carroll and Wilson previously but after watching the aftermath interviews, wow. Particularly Carroll. “We just hung in there.” You betcha, champ.
Wouldnt be surprised if the players boycott.
On bright side, under McCarthy pack always seems to respond to this type of curcumstance. And hats off to Hayward and McMillian. Played their asses off. When we get house and neal back look out! This will go down as teds all around best draft. Every rookie rds 1-6 looks good.
Yes, I have full confidence in Mike Neal…
Yes. It should’ve been an INT, BTW.
Bring on the Saints! It’s about time for this offense to feast on a soft defense!
The Saints are going to murder QB1 if the Packer’s O-Line doesn’t get things in order. 8 sacks??? c’mon!!
- Despite the bad call… this is an 8-8 team
– Where did the offense go? 3 straight games with zero offense is no longer an aberration. There is something to it. You can’t win many games in the NFL without offense. I think Aaron Rodgers has been reading last year’s headlines as he is clearly not the same player. Where are the back shoulder throws? Where are the timing routes? It baffles me that a team with last year’s offense and all players returning is this bad.
– The loss is bad enough, but the realization that this team, in current form, is not going anywhere this season is much worse.
– Mike McCarthy has a huge job ahead of him trying to turn this team around.
– Yay for the defense against a rookie QB!!
– I love how the announcers just dismissed the offensive pass interference on the last play. You can’t do anything that blatant on a hail mary.
– Who is that imposter wearing the number 12 jersey out there?
– I love the Pack, but this team is very hard to watch given all of the expectations going into this season.
The officials have been allowing more grabby-grabby in the secondary, and it’s mucking with the QB/WR timing.
That being said, it’s on MM to figure that out and adjust the playcalling to something more like we saw in the second half of the Fail Mary game. Once our O can stay on the field for 5 or so plays, they get in a groove and cannot be stopped.
A-Rod is back to not trusting his O-Line like early in 2009. The loss of Wells looks like it has severely weaked what was the strength of our line last year: not allowing interior pressure.
Aaron can’t step up into the pocket and Bulaga and Newhouse aren’t having great years either. Those things combined is yielding a lot of pressures that did not occur last year.
I’m not ready to say that. They certainly don’t look good so far, but it’s not to say they don’t have the potential to turn it around. Remember 2010, offense started out slow for the first few games. Once it got together, combined with the D playing well, superbowl.
I will be cancelling my NFL Package tomorrow morning. From here on out I will just stream the games online and also download an HD quality torrent and burn to a dvd.
Good call Wenis. I suggest everyone does that. And if you want a jersey make sure you order a fake one from China.
I understand some fan’s decision to stop watching NFL games — the officiating seriously comprises the quality — but I love the Pack too much.
I’m another first time commenter. I gave my fucking right knee for the sport that this bullshit commish has turned into a joke. Thanks for the commish number made sure to pass my phone around the bar. Please please everyone who’s boycotting stick to it. I am
I am not going to watch or talk about football until they get this bull shit fixed.
I know the hardcore bloggers will say how poorly the Packers offense played in the first half – and they did play poorly. But outside of one big Seattle play in the first half the D was solid the whole game. The Packers offense was good not great in the second half. Point being, sometimes the offense wins a game and other times the defense. For the game as a whole,the Packers outplayed Seattle and were raped by the officials.
THAT WHOLE LAST DRIVE:
Phantom roughing the passer negates an INT well in Crosby s range.
Phantom P.I. on Shields takes it from what should’ve been a 2nd and 30+ to a 1st and ten.
And the last play speaks for itself.
Un. FUCKING. Real.
Nothing to add to it, man. Well, one thing, that bastard who slammed Jennings, that sonovabitch. Rotten fckr.
Greg, the pass interference not called. How often do you see Jennings get into a fist fight?
Any tackling of the Home Team QB without the expressed written consent of both ESPN and the National Football League is prohibited.
Exactly. Glad someone actually compiled this list. Amazing how we all felt so pissed after those first two. Then the last play…absolutely unreal.
I was seeing red when I typed that. Not all on last drive, but all well into the 4th qtr.
After the 1) reversed McMillian interception and 2) the Shields PI call that wiped out a bunch of SEA penalties that put them in long yardage territory, it was a brand new game.
Everything that had happened up to that point – 8 sacks, the real Tate touchdown, and our second half dominance – had all been cancelled out by the Lady Foot Locker employees. And this was BEFORE the blown call on the final play.
I’m still pissed. How do you go to sleep after a game like that? I need to go hug my kids in their sleep to bring myself back to earth.
couldn’t have said it better myself. my kids were in bed when i got home to watch the second half of this loss*
as far as I’m concerned the packers have a 2-1 record. the packers should give jennings the credit for the pick and themselves credit for the win and if goodell doesn’t like it he can suck it. if it comes down to the packers being one win out of the playoffs I say they show up wherever it is the 6th seed is supposed to play that week and march onto the field with the other 6th seed*
Big props to McMillian for that picture perfect pass defended tonight.
I’m actually pretty pumped about several aspects of our D.
The Ugly spot in this weeks The Good the bad and the ugly should not be demeaned by the refs. There is not a word in the English language that describes how bad the refs were tonight.
I tried to find one to no avail
One word won’t do.
Have to resort to alien languages…
http://www.urbandictionary.com.....erm=shisno
Dear lord yes.
As BJ Raja said…”we need to play better..WILL IT SMOKE THIS FIRE”?
Wha?
This Team has played uninspired all year including the Preseason lets how this wakes them up
Sad that it had to come to the refs deciding a game, but it happened before (maybe not as blatant as this one, but still). The old refs made mistakes too.
The main issue is that these refs have no respect from the players. The players know now that they can get away with lots of stuff the old refs would call immediatly. Good example is the blatant foul on Jennings in the 2nd half. Never saw Jennings so out of his mind, and he is such an easy guy all around.
McCarthy ones again did an awful job adjusting on the fly when things didn’t work as designed. They needed the halftime to change the offense into a more balanced attack, and everyone in this forum would have known that you have to run the ball against Seattle first and then go to the pass. Just watch their first two games. Everybody sees it. Only McC and his stuff thought they could be the wise-a** and do what they want.
The Packers lost a football game (and some players probably lost a lot of money thorugh fines coming), but if they don’t adjust to the current situation in the NFL they wont make the playoffs this year, period.
*maybe not as blatant as this one, but still*
No. Not even close. I’ve seen close calls that could have gone one way or the other. I’ve seen blown calls where a whistle blew early. I’ve seen clock errors, phantom penalties, and obscure rules that have changed the course of a game.
I have NEVER seen a call as bad as this.
I could live with the simultaneous catch ruling if it had been close. It was not.
They rule for the home team in the 4th quarter if it’s close. Seen in Baltimore, seen last night. What can you do?
We got robbed against AZ in the 2009 playoffs.
This wasn’t robbed. This was a rape.
“The old refs made mistakes too.”
No fckn’ question but as memorable as these?
FOUR egregious bad calls on the final drive. It’s hard to believe that there was no intent by certain refs to benefit the home team. No one can be that incompetent. Seahawks ownership should do the right thing and forfeit the win. Even if the league does not accept it, it would be the classy thing to do.
Haha, thi is pro sports, lots of money on the line, no team in the NFL would forfeit their win.
M.D. Jenning had possession, and had his knee down and was touched by a Seahawk player. That should of been the end of it. What happens after that fact does not matter.
http://static.nfl.com/static/c.....Fumble.pdf
Page 2, item 5. Why can’t the replay offical match video evidence to the rule book? They had over 5 minutes. It took less than 5 minutes to find this on the NFL web site.
Sick.
page 7, note 1 Pass interference. Shields has the position for ball.
Double sick.
Thanks Rog for this great Center stage prime time game. All for less than one-half of one percent of the total NFL revenue.
OK, lets say Tate caught the ball (he didnt), But what about the pass interference before the catch by Tate?
WTF?
I think the refs saw it and like in many other situations decided it was OK to shove the opponent away. Just watch all the other games: Never saw that much contact on receivers than this year since the illigal contact rule was implemented.
Sad day in the NFL, we will see how bad it is later today when RG blows this off. I hope people vote with their $$$ and stop spending money on the NFL to wake them up. Without losing money or attenance the owners won’t really care. I wonder how long it will be before a player sues the NFL for missing contract performance bonuses from the impact the refs have on the game. Can you imagine MD missing a bonus by 1 interception.
The integrity of the game has been compromised.
I’m done.
Tweet me when the real officials are back.
Many people want to complain about the offense. I agree too their offense hasn’t been as good. But like the 49ers game, how can WR’s get open when they are constantly being held, and interfered with? Just like the 49ers game. there is a reason why the Receivers don’t get open and that is due to the replacement refs not calling pass interference, illegal contact, holding correctly. DB’s know what they can get away with, and now they are going to hit receivers until they get called for it.
Regarding post game interviews: Wilson was maybe 40 yards away from the end zone; how was he supposed to know the white hat ref had made a mistake? Same thing applies for Pete Carrol (but not for Golden Tate.)
Fact is, we all expect and rely on the officials to make the right call. Sadly, that didn’t happen last night.
Memo to all D Coordinators – tell your DB’s to use “whatever” means possible to dislodge the ball, as the Ref’s are not going to make the call.
Yo know its being discussed at all 32 teams.
Wait until this Sunday. 24 flags for 245 yards will seem like nothing.
Anyone have Mark Murphy’s phone number? As a share holder On an issue like this I would expect him to speak up and not follow the party lines.
I understand the frustration regarding the bad calls by the referees, but the language used by many belongs in a locker room or some bars, not on a public blog.
You’ve got bigger problems to worry about…
The Seachickens dominated the Pack most of the game…
If Matt Flynn was starting, the Pack would have been carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey…Wilson sucks…but that’s Pete Caroll with you..he loves them guys right out of college. Why the hell they didn’t throw more to Sidney Rice is a mystery.
The Pack is 1-2 and has major problems….hehe
They dominated the Pack first half, we dominated them both sides of th eball second half and were robbed of a win. That’s it end of this blog
PS..
TT sucks…
Blame the Koch Brothers (and many other like minded Repug a-holes) that want to BUST UNIONS in this country, and or, not give into any of the Union’s demands….
Believe it or not, that’s what this country is coming down to. These people don’t want their to be any unions in this country because they want to be able to dictate and pay slave wages to the workers.
Don’t be fooled and think that these people are on your side. They’ll even go so far as to screw with the NFL…even though we’re the ones that FUND it…
the silver lining (trying real hard to find one here) is that sometimes an event as bullshitty as one like this, can bring a team together.
i’m hoping that’s what happens here.
i’m also done watching football until this gets solved. also, fair or unfair, roger goodell will forever be defined by what happened last night. yes it’s the owners who pay the refs, but he needed to solve this. his stubborn bs has soured the game for millions.
I think and hope you’re right
As expected the explanation from the NFL:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/.....-touchdown
I like to report a crime…. It happened in Seattle last night and I am pretty sure there is a couple million eye witnesses – the only people that did not see anything is the refs!!!!
Beyond just bitching on message boards, I would LOVE to see Packers fans do something next week in protest.
Nagler, you and CHTV could be instrumental in that sort of effort.
1) Maybe have all the fans wear black next week at Lambeau, a funeral for the NFL’s integrity.
2) Have all the NYC Packer fans protest at the NFL offices on Park Ave (I’d show up).
3) Order pizzas (extra cheese) to Goddell’s office for the rest of the season.
Any other thoughts?????
You know what nobody’s talking about today? That ridiculous Rodgers leadership or lack thereof garbage.
Oh….and Rodgers SUCKS as a leader…(almost forgot)..
That actually made me LOL. Thanks for cheering me up gockcobbler!
Well I called Directv and they refused to cancel the NFL Package and issue a pro-rated refund. They say by subscriber agreement once the NFL Package has been ordered and processed no cancellations or refunds are allowed. So after this season is finished I will terminate my NFL package agreement and I will just stream the games from here on out and then download the games and burn to a DVD and watch a day later.
Ok, so the calls sucked. If the players don’t like the refs, try taking control of the game sooner and not leaving it up to them. Stop putting the defense in this position time after time. Score more points. A field goal would have sealed it. 12 for this offense is pitiful.
MM promised the O would improve. Where, how? Or is this O no longer elite against physical defenses?
Next opportunity, get Datko off the practice squad.