All Zimmer did is follow the gameplan that SF showed him. The Packers cannot stop the run.

How much did that #1 pick contribute today?

Painful loss. Can't lose at home to an undermanned divisional opponent like that. Just can't.

I don’t want to hear anything else about this def and how they’re good enough.

The Packers are not a good team. Expectations should be adjusted accordingly. Vikes were set up to mail it in the rest of the year- still won. Agree with Aaron- Zimmer was impressive. The D is soft, and needs people that are better at playing football. Not a coaching issue at all.

Isn't this what some of us said last week - take Adams out and there's not enough there. EQ has 2 balls go off this hands. If you get 2 hands on the ball, it has to be caught.

How much different is Pettine than Capers at this point? If Packers don't force their opponents to pass, we are going to get crushed every week. How does MLF not realize this?

So will getting Jones and Lazard back change this?

Lifeless is the perfect word. Defense was terrible. Too many dropped passes (ESB). Too many penalties.
Some bad officiating as well.

Offense has Rodgers and Adams. Defense is an empty uniform. No excuses. Game was given away. Packers beat themselves today.
Thanks, Since ‘61

So Barnes and Martin are the answer ? Was Kenny Clark active today? let’s hear all the homers with the excuse that we lost because no Aaron Jones, Golly Gee !

That was a tough watch. Didn't deserve a win. Liked Martin. Hated the run defence and tackling in general. Refs were inconsistent, that flag pick up was criminal but agree that that a poor team blames the refs. There was a 3rd and 7 (can't remember exactly) where Chandon played as soft coverage as you'll ever see. Seems to be a regular call by Pettine. Why so soft on a 3rd down. Demoralizing

I wouldn't say that the Packers' defense is a problem. I would say that the Packers' defense is non-existent.

And let's end the delusion that this is the best offense in football. I know Jones, Bakh and Lazard are out. That doesn't answer all the issues.

We’ll I said we need to trade for JJ Watt, I stand by that comment. So we can’t keep all FA it’s all a choice but we don’t have much of a chance if we don’t get better up front in our D. I’ll take Watt over Bak ion this team. It’s a risk due to injury history but I’d still do it.

We were absolutely manhandled in the trenches today.....my expectations for Thursday are not high...........

Stern Berger had to avoid running into Adams otherwise he’d have run the route intended I’d say.

Mostert is not playing next week and has already racked up 100 yards on our defense.

Just a horrible defense. Fire Pettine NOW.

Also, why no hurry up in the second half to change things up?

Don't you just love the 3 man rush?

Pettine was channeling Capers.

Yuk.

Will get gashed by Niners next week.

1. We absolutely deserved to lose today
2. Fire Pettine
3. Gute: GET a frigging DLman who can stop the run other than Clark. NOW
4. Gute: GET a frigging WR who can line up right. (that's what was causing the problem after the Sternberger catch at the end).
5. There were no WRs after Adams who could play. Again. This is going to continue to be a problem.
6. This team is going nowhere in January. Again. Unless we get more talent at DT and WR.
7. We're going to lose to SF on TNF. I expect to give up 400 yards rushing this time.
8. 5-3 coming right up. We all still think Gute had a good plan???

This is not a gut reaction ,, I have been ranting that we need D! so tried of the weapons posts.. we looked like a H.S team at the line of scrimmage .. Viking cut though the line like butter .. from Vikings 1st series, I knew it would not be a good day!! Games are won and lost at the line .. we all forget that ...

Zimmer copied Shannahan's plan from NFC finals last season.
Executor was different... Cook instead of Mostert. No pass just run the ball. Our run defence is awful.

I wonder if Gute will make a move by the deadline. Just don't see a title w/o a move but we might be a DL and a WR away.

Ugly. Ugly. Ugly.

By the way Cousins threw the ball a total of 14 times.

My gut reaction is that we've confirmed the fatal flaws from 2019 that went largely unaddressed, ie WR and run stopping, remain fatal flaws for 2020. I've seen enough to think I know that this team is just not good enough

I'll keep watching in hopes I'm wrong. Either way, it'll be a fun diversion over some of the alternatives.

After the Packers scored TD's on their only two possessions of the first half (ignoring the last drive with less than 30 seconds left) the Vikings picked up a couple of used cornerbacks on Craigslist at halftime yet we could only score a late TD in the second half? I'm perplexed and flummoxed.

If the Packers make no moves by the trade deadline to improve this team , what message does that send us ?

Don't get me wrong, I think Pettine sucks. He rode Rex Ryan's coattails for years. However, they just don't have good players on the defensive side other than Jaire and Clark. Z.Smith? Good situational pass rusher but doesn't like the dirty work. The rest? JAGs or worse, at least at this point. Maybe some will develop but not this season.

I thought the Pack was a "solid" 9-7 team, but not with this defense and MLF's inability to make half-time adjustments. His offense is just too easy to stop with a half decent defense. And can't somebody teach the defense how to tackle??? But in their defense, it really hurts to tackle somebody when its windy and cold. And it's on to San Francisco - whoopee.

Mike Pettine could very well be the worst DC in the league making halftime adjustments. I posted yesterday the only way Minn wins is if the defense lays an egg and let's Cook run wild. Well...he ran wild in the 1st half. Then he ran even more wild in the 2nd half. Cousins had 14 pass attempts this game. 14!! Remind anyone of a game last year? Everyone watching this game knew they were going to keep feeding Cook in the 2nd half. The recipe for defeating GB is out there for any team to see.

One more: Nagler says:

"Tough game, again, from EQ. Gotta make a play."

Maybe, JUST maybe, it's ludicrous to expect day three draft picks to make tough catches on the reg like that? Remember when we asked Gunter to cover Julio Jones in 2016? No sense getting mad at him for getting killed like that. Julio was just that much better.

This is the same. Our. WRs. SUCK. Bitching about it won't make them better. Getting better players is the only solution. And that's on Gute.

This is the type of crap I talk about.

I'm not trying to win people over.

I'm just trying to get your eyes and ears open to what this team is showing and telling you between the games against the lesser and the punchers. One man who didn't play week one torn this run defense apart a WON this game for Minn.

Week one against Minn isn't so glorious now and neither on the wins after until Tampa Bay. A rebound game against the 'shoot the themselves' Texans means even less now.

Thursday is going to be telling.

This team is no juggernaut. Just saying...

Its now obvious the Packers are not a playoff team. Their defense is SOFT and they are horrible tacklers. Where ever D Lowry lines up the opposing team runs the ball right at him. Aaron Rodgers didn't seem to upset congratulating the Vikings. No excuses the Packers are not a top 15 team in the NFL. Pettine should be replaced ASAP. Special teams looked lethargic. Really embarrassing, the Vikings only had Dalvin Cook and GB couldn't stop him on obvious downs. This team is in need of some help on the D-Line and at LB. Very poor performance by the Packers. I expect as the season goes on we will see opposing teams do the same expose their weak D-line and LB's. Maybe AR is ready to move else where as well.. Not a good day if your a die-hard Packer Fan & NFL owner.

Thursday will define this team this year. The Niners have been devastated this year yet week to week players and coaches pull it together, do the packers have that in them? The heart of this team will be exposed Thur: night.

We can talk all about wide receivers, resting RBs, hurt offensive lineman blah, blah blah.

This game came down to one glaring weakness. The Packers could not stop a talented running back even when it became apparent that said running back was getting the ball.

Should Pettine be the Defensive Coordinator? No. However, for years, it has been apparent that the Packers do not value run stopping middle linebackers. The issue was highlighted during the NFC Championship beat down. So what did the GM do to address the problem? Not much from what I can see. Ignore it and hope it goes away? A fourth round linebacker? No free agents. No D-lineman. Same players. Usually leads to same result.

Well what about the scheme? The HC nor the DC seem to have ignored the run stopping issue as best as I can tell. Defensive backs are 10 yards down the field. Linebackers sell out with bad angles. Just like the NFC Championship game everyone knew where the ball was going and yet nothing changed as the back ripped off huge gains. Unless someone gets serious about addressing the problem the ceiling just isn’t that high. Sad part is it’s probably too late to add anything at this point of the season to make a difference. A receiver may help us try to out score the other team but it won’t help stop the run. End rant.

Derrick Henry has to be licking his chops right now waiting to play this "bend but don't break" defense later this year.

Amos, Martin, Alexander - good

Savage and the rest of the Defense - bad

Offensive game plan 2nd half - bad

Tight Ends - good

EQ & MVS - baddie

Let’s flush this turd and go get the 49ers Thursday

Go Pack!

The one thing I have not yet read in anyone's posts is that with 8 minutes to go and down by 14, why was Rodgers still running the clock down to one second? Too often he's had to waste a timeout because he took too long to break the huddle and get the ball snapped. But needing two scores and he continued to let the clock run. Am I missing something here?

Steelers no Devin Bush , backup Spillane comes in and all he does is make plays, why does that not work forthe Packers?

First off - I said that I always worry about playing Minnie in GB. Dont know why but maybe it dates back to Favre playing for Minnie or maybe because of Moss. In any case we absolutely did not have our best game. For you that think we need another receiver - please go away. Maybe we need another QB because AR missed some easy throws - maybe we need another play caller because the 2nd half was relatively benign - or maybe a new Oline coach because of the holding penalties. No as I said before we need some interior linebackers - definitely a better scheme. And just who is 91 and why is he standing around out there? Poor poor poor dumb - poor tackling poor coverage and poor pressure dumb OPI penalties. Now St Brown dropped one easy ball and could have and should have made a spectacular endzone catch - but too many in coverage targets to Adams - 7 catches on 15 targets - if he is doubled and tripled somebody else must be open. Too much holding the ball by AR - waiting for Adams. Better game plan - in the second half - when they stacked the box. Short week and on to San Fran - hoping that we have a good game there but not too optomistic after what our D showed us - especially because the San Fran O runs a lot of short passes to the tight ends and the backs - and we are brutal there as well.

This defense needs a leader. They come out flat, it happens. But who is rallying the troops? Whos yelling on the sideline? Against the texans they came out and played ball. They have the talent. Yes. They need to replace lowry and lamcaster. But also you have to recognize that we got 2 ticky tac pi calls on 3rd down that gave them 7. And one that they waved off for us that coulda led to our 7. Also. Give asshole zimmer credit for that screen play. Martin n barnes were in the backfield on b2b plays and the d was starting to get some life finally i thought. Then they sucked everyone in for another top 10 play of the season against this d.

Man if only we had knew that the run defense would be this horrible and nobody behind Adams, Gutey could have fix this during offseason. Too bad.