Dear Jason Whitlock: Who’s the Assclown Now?
By Aaron Nagler on Dec 22, 2009 with 84 Comments
Back in November, Jason Whitlock wrote the following (I would link to the original column, but FOX Sports’ website sucks beyond all measure of sucking):
Favre has made assclowns of everybody, particularly Ted Thompson.
He also opined thus:
Twenty-four regular-season games into Favre’s removal as Green Bay’s starting quarterback, Ted Thompson looks every bit as stupid as Peter Pocklington, the man who traded Wayne Gretzky to Los Angeles.
The inconvenient, impolite, painful, highly entertaining and worthy-of-ample-discussion truth is Brett Favre wanted out of Green Bay because he believes Ted Thompson is a moron. Favre spent one year in New York just so he could get to Minnesota and prove that Ted Thompson is a moron.
Halfway through the 2009 season and after two Vikings victories over the Packers, the Favre prosecution team has rested its case and anxiously awaits Thompson’s defense the second half of the season.
As jury foreman, I’m ready to vote guilty on all charges. Short of winning the Super Bowl, there’s not a damn thing the Packers can do to mask Thompson’s incompetence.
I’ll be asking my peers in the jury room to sentence Thompson to the unemployment line and hand Favre the league’s MVP Award.
Well, well, well…
Jason – let me ask you this. Have you seen Brett Favre play in the cold recently? Say, oh, I don’t know, even maybe this past Sunday night? To put it kindly – he sucks. How did Aaron Rodgers look on Sunday, in much colder conditions? Pretty fucking great, right? Here’s something you may not know – it gets cold in Green Bay in December and January. When are the NFL playoffs again? Oh that’s right! January! Now, would a team trying to win a championship that finds itself situated in a city where it gets cold in January want the quarterback who sucks in the cold, or the young gun who is great and, get this, is only going to get better? Not to mention there’s the little fact that Rodgers will be the Packers starting quarterback until 2014 and probably well after that. Meanwhile, in 2014 Favre will be long gone from the NFL, collecting checks from Wrangler Jeans and Sears, while you, Mr. Whitlock, will most likely be working for yet another media entity because your so-called ‘truth-telling’ has been unmasked as the uninformed drivel that it really is. I mean, did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, Ted Thompson was operating with just a few more facts than you? Did it ever occur to you that Favre beating the Packers twice before the second week of November means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, except of course to Favre apologists like yourself? The season is 16 games. Championships are won in December and January – not November. But boy, I bet that asinine column was fun to write, wasn’t it?
Ted Thompson made the right call, and it’s well past time you apologized to the man.
You assclown.
Filed Under: Aaron Rodgers • Ted Thompson
I think Favre just wants to leave Minny so he can create the L.A. Favres football team. It will be Favre aginst 11. Throwing hail marrys while he gimps to the endzone for the catch. He only needs himself to win.
More from NFL.com (interesting article – goes further than the hoop-la-la; sure to disappoint the most bitter of Favre bashers). lol
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story?.....nfirm=true
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Good post Aaron,
Only an idiot at this point would say the Packers getting rid of Favre was the wrong decision. Not that it will influence the Favreites at all though.
Vikings don’t win the SB it’s going to be childresses fault.
Jets collapse? It was an injury an it was Mangina’s fault for not sitting him (fast forward to an attempt to do that in ’09, lol)
Favre throws the most idiotic throw ever in a playoff game after audibling out of the play called by McCarthy? The poor defense and poor play calling by McCarthy made him throw a pass that a highschool qb would’ve been embarassed of…
I’m really looking forward to this years excuses… AP isn’t good enough, the D wasn’t good enough, The Dome was to loud, Childress is an idiot (although that’s not to far stretched)…etc…
I have doubts about how much people really love Aaron Rodgers. I think that if people really liked Rodgers as much as they say they do, if they really think pushing Favre out was the right move, there would not be so much concern with Favre, Favre’s moods, Favre’s words, & Favre’s wheareabouts, Favre’s relations with the rest of the world, Favre’s morning dumps… (And yeah i know you don’t think he was pushed out. Argue it with someone else. I’m not biting.) If you’re happy with Rodgers, who cares what Favre’s doing?
Mr. O – That’s silly. The guy was the QB of the Packers for 16 years – of course Packer fans are going to be interested, whether he was ‘pushed out’ or if he retired because he hated Ted Thompson and wanted to figure out a way to go play for the Vikings. (Which is much closer to the truth, whether you’re biting or not)
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That said – my post was about Whitlock and Thompson. Favre is merely a supporting character.
It is always fascinating that a FEW still feel compelled to resort to name-calling when discussing differing opinions …(e.g. delusional, sick, idiot, Dbag)… as if to say that their predication of judgment on someone personally, is by itself, a legitimate argument for their view … I can’t think of anything less convincing then to say, “you don’t agree with me, ergo, you must be delusional or an idiot” … and then expect the listener to go -wow- that was impressive … don’t enroll on a debate team! (lol). Fortunately, many do raise good discussion points here.
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… and good grief, use some life perspective before the bitterness comes out… we are not talking about a cure for cancer (e.g. “wishing someone so hurt they could NEVER play football again”??). What is that? And God forbid if Favre does go to the SB, then what? hang yourself? Or make excuses, e.g. Peterson did it, great Oline, Defense super, yada, yada). “That what you condemn you have become” … at least don’t be so obvious.
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Another poster writes “I will be taping their playoff game(s), just WAITING for the meltdown!”… wouldn’t it be better to be taping OUR playoff games versus watching Favre ??? almost sounds like “cutting off your nose to spite your face?” — If we win the games, we win all the way around… that’s why Favre is even a discussion point today!! Put him on a losing team by beating him, THEN he is irrelevant. He handed us two opportunities… and we blew it. Now slim chance for a third.
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Better to have a playoff then a day of Favre bashing.
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I must be the only hockey fan in the room. Is there no one else offended by the notion of comparing Brent to WAYNE GRETZKY? Brent isn’t worthy to carry Gretzky’s jockstrap.
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By the by, when Gretzky went back to Edmonton, they gave him a four-minute standing ovation. You see, Gretzky is THE GREAT ONE. He was always a class act, and people respect that. When the pundits try to compare that little shit in Pittsburgh to him, it makes me puke. And Brent? Well…
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I mean, he wasn’t Bart Starr, was he?
greenbaypackerbob
You post like you’re trying to convince yourself & not really anyone else ….. Regardless of what side of the fence you fall on regarding the ‘Favre Fiasco’, you are still (in 2009) talking about the Vike’s starting QB……. Please consider this: … Not every PackerFan was that enamoured with the 16 year BF era in GB ……. Some (like myself) feel GB may have actually been more successful without BF running the team….
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M. Ali, W. Gretzky, M. Jordan,……. Brett Favre ???? ……. Not even close.
Woody G, greenbaypackerbob has had this passive-aggressive schtick for quite some time now. He spins, spins, spins the information so his bromance can continue with Brett. I’m not really in favor of bashing Favre, but the hero worship and ignoring his career long trend of bossing around GM’s and coaching staff is pathetic. Personally, I’m more sickened by the ardent, unapollogetic Favre supporters than the Favre bashers.
greenbaypackerbob, That nfl.com article does not mention anything other than the Panthers game. What about Favre’s refusal to come out of the two other games? What about audibling to pass plays just to be an ass against the Packers? Are you saying those things didn’t happen? My opinion of Favre aside, it certainly looks right now like the is a power struggle between Favre and his coach, and frankly it looks like it’s due to Brett’s stubbornness and yes, ego. How else can you put it when the guy ignores the call of a running play to try to run up the score against the Packers…twice?
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So the premise of the article is that Farve is not at fault for the slide…lets look at the reasons they list…
» A dominant defensive performance by the Cardinals, who were good enough to get to the Super Bowl last season.
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UMM…could just be me but isn’t much easier to have a “Dominant Defensive Performance” against a slumping QB who tails off late in the season and audibles out of running plays his coach is calling while at the same time struggling to pass the ball well?
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» A brilliantly conceived defensive scheme by Panthers coach John Fox that called for a mixture of three- and four-man rushes, which confused Minnesota’s offensive line all night.
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UMM…isn’t the point of having a “savvy veteran” like Farve to combat stuff like this, I mean…he’s seen it all right? He should be able to figure out where to go with the ball quickly to help alleviate this kind of pressure…maybe it should stymie him and the vikings O for the first couple of series but after that he should be able to figure it out…right????
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» Poor pass protection by the linemen. Tackle Bryant McKinnie, who had been hoping that this would be his first Pro Bowl season, was so overmatched against Julius Peppers that he wound up being pulled from the game.
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McKinnie was awful but then as the savvy veteran shouldn’t he be getting the ball out of his hands faster, skillfully sliding in the pocket to avoid pressure and audibling into more running plays or screens to combat the poor pass protection?
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» Coming out flat for the Carolina game after learning, just before kickoff, that Green Bay’s loss to Pittsburgh had given them the NFC North crown.
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UMMM…Shouldn’t a savvy veteran of Farve’s stature be able to motivate his team to snap out of it and perform since Home Field advantage in the playoffs is on the line?…Along with GB’s loss was also the loss by the Saints opening the door for the Vikings to potentially snatch HFA throughout the playoffs…shouldn’t that be motivating enough to offset the potential flatness created by cinching the division?
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» Being without rookie receiving sensation Percy Harvin leading up to Week 13 because of debilitating migraines, which then forced him to sit out in Week 14. Now, Harvin apparently is also dealing with two bulging disks in his neck.
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UMMM…isn’t this the Great Brett Farve who knows how to spread the ball around and work defenses over, who makes everyone around him better and who has the best RB in the game to rely on? Oh wait I forgot he’s audibling out of those running plays…DOH!
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» The virtual disappearance of Adrian Peterson and Minnesota’s once-mighty running game.
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Hard to stay dominant in the running game when your QB keeps audibling to passing plays. Maybe that’s why Childress wanted to bench Farve…because he’s struggling and he keeps going to pass plays and thus taking away the running game which could help him….
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But hey, I am sure I’m way off base, I mean this is the Great Brett Farve, these problems obviously aren’t his fault….
The simple truth: The Vikings had a great team this year, there’s no denying that, but Brent, as usual, has applied himself to taking over the team. Now that he is collapsing as it is December, he will bring down the whole team, as he did with the Jets, as he did with the Pack.
Go Pack Go!
Did we ever have a Brent at quarterback?
Woody
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We may disagree on the BF fiasco or what ‘might’ have happened if Favre leaves earlier (I can respect that debate). Point I’m making is what has happened since he left (no speculation there). He had a better season then us in 08 and now has a division win in 09. Want to quiet the supporters, how bout starting with the Pack kicking butt (his particularly). Until then, he holds a trump card (uncomfortable as that may be). Appreciate your comments (and yeah, we ALL are guilty of trying to convince ourselves at times) lol!
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CSS
You make no valid point except to say you don’t like Favre supporters and continue to refer to them as delusional… it just comes off as bitter… some of us still have a respect for what Favre did over the past 16 yrs., think the departure could have ended better and can’t help but note the fact he’s still winning … sorry that ‘sickens you’(to use your words). Hope you feel better!! Merry Christmas!
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Of course much of what is being reported is true – I’m not denying that! …. but much of it is tabloid “tempest in a teapot”. It just sounds desperate to try and key in on it at this point… HW, I will concede that Favre’s comments after the game were a big mistake… that needs to be kept in the locker room… Favre has made some blunders, but it’s hard to talk about them when the majority of the comments are one sided. Appreciate comments! Merry Christmas!
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PRC
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Wow. good second opinions. Appreciate the work you exerted in order to make your points. But the article was making the case that the lost was not totally’ Favre’s fault. He’s the QB, he has to take some of the blame no matter what, but as the article points out, there are a lot of other circumstances surrounding the loss (he doesn’t control the blocking, the defense, the dropped passes, fumbled passes, injuries, etc.,). We make that case all the time for AR on this blog!! He didn’t just lose due to the disagreement ——— and the audibles that keeps getting referred to in the articles usually revolved around the one Favre scored on us to put the game away….if AR did this over MM, would we fault him?…
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Point remains Favre has helped win his division and kicked our butts in the process (as uncomfortable as that is)… want to make a point … win, then the tabloid is minimized! If we had won the Vike games & division I’m sure we would be touting it as ‘proving our point’ – why be surprised others are doing the same?
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My theory is that our differences may revolve around the fact that many refuse to go so far as to call Favre a Judas. I prefer looking at him as the ‘prodigal son’. He is wallowing in a pig hole eating with the enemy but one day will come home, retire his jersey, have his name planted on Lambeau wall, be all over the Packer HOF and then go to Canton…and all will be forgiven.
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Maybe we should not forget the future… after all, it is Christmas! lol… (and it’s a much happier ending than Judas – he hung himself, no victories after his dirty deed).
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Merry Christmas to all! Appreciate the responses.
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Keep on spin, spin, spinning away greenbaypackersbob.
I said, “Personally, I’m more sickened by the ardent, unapollogetic Favre supporters than the Favre bashers.”
You appear to be head cheerleader of the group. I love how you qoutemine, misquote or spin in order to protect your precious image of Brett.
You’re the type of fan that’s impossible to have dialogue with. You begin with your conclusion. Why don’t you address the greater trends out there with Favre (lack of discipline, playing outside of the offense/gameplan, defying coaches) that’s been occuring since his relationship with Mike Holmgren ended?
Bob, I love what we were able to accomplish with Farve here but the stuff your ignoring is the reason for Farve’s ultimate departure and the reason that IMO HE forced his way out. IMO he never wanted to come back after the championship loss and has worked the system since that point to get to MN just so he can try to “stick it” to TT and MM and of course in the process the rest of us.
Had Farve simply been a man and lived up to his commitments I have no doubt that the Packers would have lived up to theirs and he would still be playing here. He didn’t, he played the system and tried to force his way out of his contract, the Packers (rightly IMO) traded him rather than releasing him.
I could care less who won the division bob, how many playoff games has Farve and his teams been in and won since he forced his departure? oh that’s right 0…just like the Packers.
Your right that in time all will be forgiven and he’ll probably have his name up on the ring of “Honor” though at this point that is one thing I don’t think he should get…I do think he belongs in the GBP HOF and will rightly be enshrined in canton. However his behavior over his last 4-5 seasons with the Pack and since leaving leads me to say that his name should not appear in the ring of “Honor” because quite simply, he wasn’t Honorable in his behavior.
JMHO…
And ps…Merry Christmas.
CSS
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No need for me to point out the things you mention about Favre when they are the point of my responses!?! They get plenty of press already. I’m just trying to add some balance which you happen to disagree with.
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But what makes no sense to me is you feel that because you dislike Favre the whole world must dislike him or otherwise come under your name calling and bashing… if you want to call someone we are discussing a name, go at it… but to make personal derogatory remarks to those who take the time to challenge your ideas on the blog comes off as equally closed minded (the exact same thing you accuse others of).
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If we disagree, so be it. I see no point referring to or anyone else as ‘delusional’. You really think your interpretation is above all spin… please! Make your points, forget the sensationalism. Again, I copy and quote, “I’m more SICKENED BY the ardent, unapollogetic Favre supporters”; and “for those posting here that feel the need to parse words/phrases… you’re DELUSIONAL.”
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JMHO –
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PRC
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Appreciate the explanation. Favre certainly didn’t handle everything the way he should but there have been some good cases made for how a better outcome may have been achieved than what occurred – and I have other issues with TT besides Favre – no need to rehash them all here.
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On the division… we disagree IMHO. I think winning the division is very important! It ensures a playoff spot, possible rest and home field advantage … If 2nd seed, Favre gets to play indoors! It is hard for me to imagine that any Fan really does not care about winning the division, along with it’s advantages, particularly if it came by beating Favre twice in the regular season… if we had, the tables would be totally turned (and I can only imagine the ammo from it… lol)
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Peace
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No need to discuss with you any longer greenbaypackerbob. You parse, re-define, quote mine and revise history. Where have I ever stated I ‘hate Favre’. Haven’t. Keep on lying for Brett. You’ve not stopped to this point and likely will not. Everytime you post you’re foot sinks further into your mouth. Please, do continue…..
Chris Mortenson listed Rodgers #5 on his list of MVP candidates in his chat today on ESPN. He had Manning, Brees, Johnson, Rivers then Rodgers.
I actually have some sympathy for the die-hard Favre supporters…… They have blindly followed the illusion created by the media that BF was larger than life for close to 20 years….. The last 18-24 months has exposed a person that has always existed….. 5 years ago….. Even 10 years ago….. A person who is all about himself, devious, vengeful & completely ignorant of the world around him ……. The ‘more accurate’ indisputable image of BF is a huge ‘fall from grace’ for the ardent, unapollogetic Favre supporters …… It must not feel too good…….
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I’m looking forward to all the books coming in 5 or 10 years…….
Stop it WoodyG, you’ll make some posters here cry (looks up 3 posts and laughs)….
CSS
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“No need to discuss with you any longer greenbaypackerbob…”
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then why the reply? Feel like you have to get that last word in don’t you ? … (lol)
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Peace friend, it’s Christmas.
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No need to respond because it’s a monologue, not a dialogue. You’re doing your best to be as sugary-sweet as possible in your distorted responses. You’ve responded to zero substantative posts critical of your fantasy stance/abject love of Favre. You sir a troll and nothing more. We’ve gone through this dance before and you whined to Aaron you were being attacked personally (which is impossible when your identity is anonymous, but I digress from your lack of reasoning).
So, feel free to parse, whine, complain and attempt to get the last post in. Read the tone of responses from posters above, you’re being laughed at.
CSS – it’s time to give it a rest… your attempts to get some kind of sensationalist rise out of all this is just is not going to work.
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And if someones laughing that’s fine – that might crumble your world but not mine. Folks are not always going to agree with you, but that’s ok.
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And if you choose to reject the accolades of ‘friend’, ‘peace’, merry Christmas, etc., and follow it off by even more name bashing then you are again making my point (e.g. now I’m a ” troll ” – lol)
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And again, if you really don’t believe you “have the need to reply”, then just stop typing … it’s that easy.
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For me, I taking your own advice … sayonara.
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Still parsing, whining and quote mining I see. Please do continue…….
Aaron:
I’ve been a fan (of YOURS, not Whit-less-lock)for along time, but I think this is one of the most spot-columns you have written. Tools like Whitlock need to go away.
“I’m just happy the Packers are sitting in a position of having a very talented team player with a great future ahead of him at QB. If King Bent had stayed, we’d be watching Aaron play for someone else this year.”
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EXACTLY!! That’s what the brent apologists who used to be Packer fans can’t get through their stubborn skulls. If McCarthy took away the starting gig from Rodgers in August, Rodgers would have said “F you” to the organization, and rightly so. Sure he was under contract through 2009, but he would have bolted after that. Probably to the Vikes, to get back at the Packers for screwing him over.
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I can’t express how happy I am that Rodgers is our franchise QB.
Aside from all of the above, I’d really appreciate it if someone could clue me in on who to pull for the last two weeks of the season …. No doubt, two wins for GB would solve all the issues but just in case we split……… Please don’t tell me I have to pull for BF to have a career day against the Giants in Week 17 …….. Am I going to have to watch GB vs Arizona (late game) in Week 17 with the condition that if GB wins …. they’re in ……. if GB loses they are out ? …… That’ll be hard to do….. I may have to tape it & watch after the fact or maybe not watch it at all……
Just a thought… So many people claimed to have moved on from the whole Brent thing, but when a post comes that concerns him, it gets 100 comments the length of novels. Evidently this is more of a touchy subject than people will admit.
Go Pack Go!
Packers, if anyone else is like me, I have moved on from wishing Brent had been able to stay. I am happy with Aaron and I am glad is he is our QB of the future.
It is still hard, however, to believe that he was really that shallow and egotistical and we were really that gullible. That does hurt. So when he pulls the same shit, different day with another team, it does make me laugh. At least it wasn’t just the Packers, it’s the world he’s out to rule! Damn the fans!
Actually, in some odd way, it helps me to be supportive of the day he is in the Packer Hall of Fame.
Foundinidaho: You read my mind. Probably the best opinion of Brent I’ve ever heard. Thank you.
Go Pack Go!
Just one more thing: Assclown?! I’ve heard TT called many things, but that’s got to be the most creative. I’ve never heard it before.