"LaFleur genuinely hears his players. He knows what makes them tick. He knows which ones to push and which ones to back off of." This remInds me of another legendary packer coach. I do believe we are in good hands.

I know many don’t like Murphy and the FO, but their decision to hire MLF is under appreciated. You don’t have to like every decision they make, the reality is the team just keeps winning so they must be doing more right then wrong.

LaFleur is great offensively. He certainly seems connected with the players as well, but as yet I have to reserve judgment on his ability to motivate and manage coaches.

We have seen multiple games with flat performance. We have 2 of three coordinators struggling (the one who isn’t is on his side of the ball). Great coaches listen but they also lead and they can get performance from all three phases. Listening is important but only if one can inspire too.

LaFleur is young. He may well be all we hope for, but as yet he’s installed a great offense but he hasn’t demonstrated that he is a great coach yet.

One note on MM: the comments certainly reflect what he became, but initially he seemed to listen and be innovative and produced some explosive offenses. He struggled with defense and special teams leadership too, and later became incredibly inflexible. LaFleur has to be able to address what MM could not and avoid retreat into rigidity if he truly is to be a great coach.

I wasn't a fan of the pick at the time. it seemed risky. as if M Murphy put a guy in that he could control. In reality, he ceded control to his coach and indirectly to the players. As long as you have players that won't abuse the opportunity, it will work great. If bad apples come along. we need to remove them. Coach of the year if we win the NFC. Indeed, we're in good hands. GPG

MLF is a great coach and an even better person. His record speaks for himself. Just the right kind of guy. We could be use way more of that sort these days.
If the Ditkas and Rex Ryans of the world had that kind of record, they would let you know every second of the day.

Tell the players what you want. Give Rodgers Time. Listen to meaningful suggestions. Get Results. The Offensive players Trust LeFleur. The defense though is a different set of numbers. And MMs downfall was his Defense. If LeFleur does not change those numbers. He will be shown the door. Rodgers is a Leader. And thats just what the Defense lacks. Leader/Leaders! This Defense isn't; All for one, and one for all. It lacks unity! It lacks strength. Sure they know how to celebrate after a turn-over. But any good Defense is about STOPS!! It lacks TRUST. And if were going to build up LeFleur. He must have that Leadership on both sides of the ball. REMEMBER: GET Results!! The offensive side has achieved it. The Defense hasn’t. For LeFluer to be that coach we praise. He must get those Defensive Leaders to emerge. A Reggie White, Butler, Charles Woodson, Nick Collins, Ray Nitscke,ETc. Players whose character couldn’t be assassinated. LeFleur was a needed change. His stats are favorable. He’s gaining respect.

The first quality of good/great leadership is personal integrity. Without it you cannot make decisions which are in the best interests of the organization or it’s people.
Next is commitment. Commitment to your vision for the organization and for its future.
Third is effective, on-going communications, which starts with listening. Effective communication empowers everyone which is the key to achieving organizational success.
Fourth is mentoring. Leaders must mentor their people to enable their success. This inspires people to find what is in themselves.
Fifth is inclusiveness. Make everyone part of your organization. Employees, partners, customers, vendors, etc.
Give everyone a personal stake in the organization’s success and it will become much easier to keep everyone on the same page and rowing together in the same direction.

“The new leadership is in sacrifice, is in self-denial. It is in love, it is in fearlessness. It is in humility and it is in the perfectly disciplined will. This is also the distinction between great and little men.” Vince Lombardi

MLF is heading in the right direction. But no one gets there alone. In his case he needs 2-3 more good defensive players. A DL and an ILB at least. He also needs control over his coaching appointments for DC and ST.
He is a very bright guy, and is demonstrating and evolving into the leadership qualities mentioned above. Unlike Lombardi he is not the GM and he does not have control over the team’s finances but he is getting his players to perform at a high level for the most part and that is what he does have control over. Thanks, Since ‘61

It's great that the HC listens to the players or was that 'really' listens. Unless an SB win or appearance at the least comes from this 'effect' and the longer it takes or if happens at all with Rodgers as the QB, the MLF Effect will begin to be whispers of malcontent, less those enamored with Division Titles.

This season is near a replay of the 2011 season and looks to be the best chance for an SB appearance and victory. This team can be really different next season due to salary cap issues alone, not to ignore other reasons, and can have us fans waiting through another 10 year drought or longer for another chance with equal promise.

Is this a true Super Bowl or bust season, it very well could be.

We all know the Defense not the offense will decide how far the Packers go, no other way to put it , some may be in denial but its a fact.

Yes, MLF has rejuvenated the offense. Rather than the MM mantra of having the WR's beat their coverage one-on-one, which didn't work, but keep doing it anyway, and never committing to the run, though lip service would be offered to that goal regularly. However, LaFleur also has Aaron Rodgers as his QB. And that can't be underestimated. Rodgers reads defenses, changes plays, and makes the difficult throws look easy. Rodgers on the field is similar to having another head coach under center. Yes, there is a synergy between the two, and it's great. But the true challenge for LaFleur will come when the Packers decide to move on from Rodgers. And that move is coming sooner than later, IMO. Then, we'll see what he does without a great QB running the offense.

The drama queens here wasting their prime.

At least the 3 biggest...weakest ones......

This is football. Just in case you missed it.

Just relax, dont worry and have some Ben und Jerrys icecream. They are the best!!

Good story. Fix the typos.

As usual Cory gets it all wrong! Its the Rodgers effect! As in Rodgers is much more comfortable in the LaFleur offense, with some integration of what Rodgers liked from the McCarthy offense.

LaFleur is a good HC, but it the Rodgers effect, make no mistake about it.

You take away Rogers and we are pretty much the Chicago Bears.
Go Pack !

It is hard to stay on top for decades. If we look at even the best of coaches they need to either move on or somehow update themselves. There is only one Bill B - and the apples off of his tree are not that tasty - maybe Joe Judge might be but we saw 2 of them fired this year already. Even with great QB's it is hard to win the SB - Favre got one, Manning 2 - one in Indie and one in Denver, Elway was going to be deemed a flop ( from a superbowl perspective ) until he won 2 very late in his career. MM was good when he came in and was successful - but he kind of stagnated - now some of that could be blamed on TT for not drafting as well as he could have. Harrell, Dix, Perry D Jones Sherrod - all were not what you should expect out of the first round. MM or TT should have probably gotten rid of Capers earlier - but that is conjecture. Now at least with Lafleur and Gute they are willing to do new things including bringing in free agents and a new offensive strategy. It takes more than one or two years to fill all the holes and we still need defensive help especially in the middle of the defense. But now we got AR back and humming and if we look at Elway's and even P Manning's late career success we should not expect much of a fall off of AR. So whilst I am not hopeful this year about going all the way - unless the cards fall favorably - I expect that we will be even better next year. One also needs to recognize that after going 13-3 we had a very strong strength of schedule this year. I expect year 3 of Lafleur to be even better than this year especially since Covid will be done and a full and active preseason will help us. I also expect Jones to be resigned somehow.

Over time the good franchises do their best to keep what works and change what doesn't.

For a long time the Packers stayed with McCarthy because with a QB like Rodgers even an average coach can do well.

LaFleur has re-energised the Packers, the offensive philosophy has changed to where players are schemed open rather than just relying on receivers to beat their defender(s). The old system worked well when the Packers top four receivers were almost always better than the guys that covered them, but we are not starting Driver/Nelson/Cobb/Jennings now, we have one true no.1 WR and others that help. McCarthy is not the head coach for the team we have now.

LaFleur is a keeper. Murphy seems like a keeper. Gutekunst looks like another. Some position coaches (like OL coach Stenavich) look to be brilliant choices. I hold the view that any new(ish) head coach should ALWAYS make changes to deal with any weaknesses in his position coaches and coordinators over his first few years. When a head coach is hired, he is limited in the choices of his coaches to who is available in his first year. Now, two years down the road, he has greater respect among other coaches due to his record, and should be able to improve any weaker members of his group (maybe a new DC and certainly a new ST coach, for example).

Is there anything else to improve ? Certainly. I'd like to see more obvious gameplan adjustments through a game when some things are not working well. There needs to be a plan for a post Aaron Rodgers team (and we've seen signs of that with the drafting of Love). If laFleur continues to listen to others and encourages that in his staff, the Packers have a very good chance to remain an elite franchise for many years.

PS If there was ever an article I would love to read it would be one about the quality of the coaches under LaFleur, not just the coordinators, the position coaches as well.