"And, he invited Aaron Jones, the team’s elder statesman (is he? Is that even possible?) who will finally get his chance too."

It took me a minute to figure out what you meant here, but then I remembered the "ARod refuses to run MLF's offense" conspiracy theory. The way things are looking we will finally know if that holds weight this fall.

Either way it is definitely encouraging to see Love doing some off the books workouts with those guys. I was surprised/not surprised to see that Toure didn't go (seems like he got some criticism for lack of effort in practice last year so I wonder if he was invited and passed...). I'm also curious who snaps the ball for these practices. Like do they cut a JUGS machine in half so it throws the ball from a lower angle? Or does Love just start with the ball in the ground, snap it in the air and run backwards as quickly as he can to catch it before throwing a pass? :D

Lark's Tongues in Aspic ?

GG, you’re like layers of an onion man. Impressive comment . And I agree.

Glad you're truly excited. I guess 3 seasons in a row with 13 wins wasn't exciting. It was for me. I hope we find ourselves that excited at some point in the future.

Great, great comments! My feelings exactly. MLF must be thrilled that he gets to run his offense now that the dark diva cloud is floating away. Thanks again!

It’s not like he hasn’t been given resources, so, what is it?
Players not living up to their draft status? Players being misused?
I wonder how often we’ll see the DB’s lined up ten yards deep on third and three this season.

Perfect!

Hope MLF is all over this! The talent is there (mostly) just need to be more aggressive.

For me, the sad reality is that sports journalism is pretty much just dead, and has been for a while. There just aren't very many people out there who are going to expand your knowledge of the sport. Hell, they aren't even trying. They just want to say stupid shit that will make everyone argue, as if there were some inherent benefit to that.

I'm certainly not PROMOTING McAfee - believe me, I'm not - but who is better?

Cowherd? Hell, no.

Skip Brainless and Sharpe? Double hell no.

Lil' Stevie A. "Let me shout and scream at you for no reason" Smith? That's an "[F-bomb], no."

So many of these shows have become a cult of personality, based on the show's presenter rather than the sport, the athlete or the actual game that was played.

Sure, there are a few decent ones out there, but they are few and far between.

and that, is a Savage take. the only thing missing is the chain smoking

McAfee thinks Rodgers backside is a steel pole in the winter!

Proper.

Lootstone!
I agree with much of this, and thank you for the heads-up on Michael Wilson.

Here's some draft notes I compiled on him:

WR Michael Wilson - Stanford R3-5***
6-1 213 4.58 hands 9 3/4 (72%) Bench 23 (98%)

Elite 135.5 QB Rating when targeted as a 5th Year Senior (105.5 career). 15.6 YPC +short +intermediate +deep routes. +blocking. Takes top off defenses with enticing height-weight-speed. Dangerous in catch & run.

Great run blocker. TE-like on sweeps.

Perfect Z receiver (rare). Plays best traditional Split End - 85% snaps out wide.

Deceptive speed w smooth, precise routes. Has that innate feel to gain separation regularly

Physical AF. Great release v. press and positioning on slants/in traffic.

Best WR at the Senior Bowl w 4 re 76 yds and game winning TD. Raved about all week during practice too.

***Medicals - played 6 games 2022 [foot] on a bad Stanford team, plus another season ending injury [foot] 2020 - combinded with COVID played in only 14 games over 3 seasons

--

I have a hard rule I wish Gutekunst would stick to. NO INJURED PLAYERS. Injured players tend to always be injured players, and thus make you the loser in that equation.

Yeah, he seems like a steal, but, what are we getting on the field? No knock on you, but, man. 14 games played in his 3 year career would give anybody pause.

-- I thought for sure AR was going to Niners last year. I hope you mean: get Lance and then trade him for picks( good idea) because the other scenario doesn't put too much faith in Love.
-- My top pick is still Mayer: put up very good numbers against top teams, and can block. A TE that can do both improves the offense.

Loot,
I have liked Michael for some time now because of his size, but do have concerns with his 4.58 speed in the 40. His ability to separate is going to be his challenge. That and the fact he could not stay healthy in college only playing 14 games total over the last 3-seasons of his 5 year collegiate career. Because of this, he should be available later in the draft.

Gave you a thumbs up for your Tenacious D.

Lolz.

Toxic positivity is indeed a thing, but it doesn't mean what you think it means. From 'Psychology Today' (you know, the folks that know this stuff):

"Toxic positivity is the act of avoiding, suppressing, or rejecting negative emotions or experiences. This may take the form of denying your own emotions or someone else denying your emotions, insisting on positive thinking instead. "

This is so obviously NOT what Al is doing that the fact you're using the term as you are pushes your comment to a 9 on the Bonkers Scale.

And to further reinforce you BS ranking today, how in the hell are comments about Jordan Love working out with his teammates "dangerous"? Are you SURE you're not a racist, because your use of that word only makes sense if you are.

As for your closing comments... we've beaten that zombified dead horse into oblivion. You were wrong then, and you're wrong now.

A question for the anti Love crowd...

I was Rodgers over Love until this last week. Now I want draft capital, as sad as that is. I think Jordan is an excellent pocket passer, and with the right tools around him that's perfectly fine. But this seems to be and elusive QB sport as of late, which is why I don't put all my stock in Jordan atm. Maybe he will surprise me, I hope so.

You can say, I understand based on how Rodgers handles things, why he was uninformed himself post darkness retreat. If he wanted transparency, he could of said, "Hey I'm leaning more towards retirement." If he did, maybe they wouldn't of shopped around on him. Or maybe they knew he was going to retire and pissed him off strictly for trade capital. :O

Highly doubt it, but funny to think about.

That will never happen. You think the Packers want that drama?

The trade is happening. It's just a matter of time. The Jets have signed Lazard already, the fans know they want AR, and AR has said he wants to play for the Jets.

If this doesn't happen, the Jet's GM could get fired and there will be a fan uproar in NY.

I think it comes down to Draft Day. Depending on what happens at the top of the draft may be what dictates where Aaron Rodgers goes. Gutey is in the driver's seat, and whether the vehicle is a '72 Chevelle SS or a Yugo will depend on what happens on draft day.

What happens if the Jets hold out and don't give Gutey what he wants before the draft and Texans, Cards, Colts, Titans, or Pats decide to step in and give up a lot more for AR12 than the Jets?

I could easily see Bill Belichick call up on draft day and ask Gutey, what he has to have for AR12 and Bill making it happen if he wants to, if for no other reason than to screw the Jets. (He does have a history doing so.)

Jets could easily be left out in the cold.

If the Packers trade Aaron Rodgers on Draft Day to a team he doesn't want to play for, he has two choices. Play or retire. Once he's traded, he's off our books and he's another teams problem.

I don't blame Gutey for standing his ground at all. He's paid to do what is right for the Green Bay Packers.

Not for what is right for the Jets or AR12.

Draft Day isn't just a movie. It is when GMs throw their chips into the pot to risk it for a biscuit. I can think of 10 different scenarios that could happen on Draft Day that gives GB more than the Jets are currently offering.

Imagine what the phone call to the Jets will sound like with 5 minutes left on the clock in the first round when the Falcons are on the clock and Gutey says, "Give me this, this, and this, or I'm trading AR12 to the Falcons... You have one minute." Or Titans or the Pats...

Could you imagine if Bill Belichick decided to call up on draft day and destroyed the Jets fan base by trading for AR12? (I don't think he will, because I think they like Mac Jones, but we don't know how these GMs view the opportunity to trade for AR12.)

What if someone decides to go after Lamar Jackson before the draft and on draft day the Ravens decide to pony up for AR12 for a couple years instead of drafting a QB this year?

The longer it goes, the happier I become.

It used to be easier, but there are some pretty crazy ideas that are chasing even the rabbits out of their homes, Qanon, flat earthers. While I don't attack, I shake my head and check my surroundings more often because logic seems a bit less in practice.

Great post Dobber! Your last sentence in particular is spot on. The media is all about the clicks, the ratings and of course the $$$$. Facts and actual information have become secondary to the "show".
Thanks, Since '61

...McAfee is symptomatic of what's wrong with our pseudo-information society...

And 'information' is being generous. Somehow people took the WWE wrestling formula and made it the nightly news with Walter Cronkite.

Yesterday, Murphy apparently told a "journalist" that he'd like to tell him what's going on but that he was "sworn to secrecy". Sounds like more Murphy blather than anything else, though.

If there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s pundits pontificating.
People pleaded with Pontius Pilate not to plagiarize, but the clamor of the crowd cost him his character.

The interesting part is that LaF has say over his assistants, and he moved a potential 'rival' or replacement into that associate HC role. My suspicion is that it was to grant the team more veto power over interview requests...or it could be exactly what you said: he's the hammer foil to LaF's softer disposition. That would certainly imply that LaF is more self critical than we'd thought--and not so much worried about his job.

I'm with you, they would have gotten enought great picks to rebuild quickly and Love would be in his third season now. A total cluster all around.

Perhaps I’m just suffering from a hangover from TGR’s latest dose of (much needed) reality, but I can’t see Crosby coming back with our cap and Rodgers gone. I’m OK with that. He’s at or near the end and we are at a beginning.

"That Packers re-worked offer is probably still the best offer you’re going to get. None of the other teams in the league are going to give you $11M. "

Probably the most realistic take.

Maybe so, marpag, and fair enough -- although to basically say that Aaron Jones is a reasonable man does not detract from his Packeriness.
If he's working out these days with our young guys, that speaks volumes.
He's not saying, "You newbies go off and get yourselves up to speed so that you can play up to my standards."
He's out there with them leading by example.
He's not only continually improving his own game, but realizing that for team success the individual players have to learn how to work together as a coordinated group.
He's doing it on his own time, on his own dime, in a display of extra effort.
***
That's the stuff of generating excitement for an offense that will hum with efficiency, diversity, creativity, and productivity.
That's maximizing the potential of the Packers for bringing back the Lombardi Trophy to Titletown.
That's Most Packery!