November 12th, 2009

Come To Jesus Indeed

Aaron Nagler in Mike McCarthy, Packer Offense

I’m sure most of you have read this by now, but if you haven’t, Greg Bedard’s piece about what Daryn Colledge termed the offenses’ “come-to-Jesus meeting” is simply a must read.

Now, as our very own IronMan points out – talk is cheap. But it’s good to see that the players are seemingly as emotional about the state of things as some of their fan base. No, emotion doesn’t win games, doesn’t make a block, doesn’t make a tackle – but football IS an emotional game and it’s hard to argue that this has been a pretty lifeless bunch for the past month or so. If the head coach isn’t going to provide any kind of spark (another negative in the McCarthy ledger) then I’m all for the players doing the job themselves.

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It’s a start… Let’s threat it like this. It must be followed by actions on the field. But it’s not meaningless. It’s a start.

PackersRS said in November 12th, 2009 at 10:21 am

Who knows if it will change anything. Like you say, talk is cheap. BUT, for the first time in 4-5 weeks I have some hope. The *only* way anything will change is if everyone (and I mean everyone) admits something is wrong — which up to now no one has seemed willing to do. We’ll fix it, check the tape, blah, blah, bullshit. No. There are problems. Let’s first admit them, then address them, then try to fix them. After this, a loss to the Cowboys would still kill, but it’d be a whole lot more palatable. At least I know they care enough to get angry.

Jason Albert said in November 12th, 2009 at 10:23 am

Go to Colledge’s facebook page and count the number of “we’re getting it straightened out” comments he’s posted this season.
http://www.facebook.com/DarynColledge?ref=nf
It’s meaningless. They’re not good.

Anderson said in November 12th, 2009 at 10:40 am

Ok, religious motifs – (they have been a part of the fundamentals of football since it’s inception… along with a lot of yelling, condemnation and threats) ha.
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I say ‘convert’ the coaching staff by sending the pulpit committee out for replacements. This may ‘revive’ the players and produce a ‘reformation’ that will ‘transform’ the team and ‘excite’ the fans …equals win, win.
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lol

greenbaypackerbob said in November 12th, 2009 at 10:50 am

I don’t know if most of you hear the term “come-to-Jesus” meeting – I do a lot here in Idaho and of course Colledge played football here. For him to use that term, it was pretty damn intense in that room. That is good.

I, too, am not sure it is enough to help, but at least they are upset with how things are going enough to admit blame and attempt to fix it.

foundinidaho said in November 12th, 2009 at 10:51 am

i’m having a bad day. i’m going to be the grumpy bastard.

1. when is the defense having this meeting? i realize our numbers aren’t that bad on d, but there are a few players who could handle a session like this.

2. is mccarthy still calling the plays? yup? thought so. my question has never been these guys trying hard enough. it’s been about a commitment to the run. it’s been about short passes. it’s been about a lack of TALENT on the o-line.

3. did they make me a samich? i’m hungry. a samich would’ve helped me more right now than an a bunch of guys getting riled up on a wednesday.

joshywoshybigfatposhy said in November 12th, 2009 at 10:58 am

A meeting? Ok, that is something. The real questions are:
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1. Are the players talented enough to play at a higher level than they are now?
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2. Is the Offensive scheme to complicated for the players on this team (i.e. are they juct too stupid to grasp the scheme?)?
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3. Will the coach even care what they say or do? Will he insist they do it his way no exception? I think, yes!
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Let’s face it most of the criticism is directed to the O – line, which in turn impacts both the passing game and the running game. The talent is not there.
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I guess we’ll see how effective this was on Sunday. I really hope it is, but I can’t get a grasp on just how that will work. If something like this is possible, why wasn’t it done earlier?
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And the worst possibility of all would be “Duke” Preston filling in and shutting out the guys he is responsible for. That would be a total and complete condemnation of the TT and MM talent assessment system they use.

Ron La Canne said in November 12th, 2009 at 11:36 am

When’s MM going to “come to Jesus” and change his effing play calling? Campen and Slocum need to have their epiphanies, too.

Jim in DC said in November 12th, 2009 at 11:53 am

It’s obvious the main problems with this team are coaching related.

Sure individual performances haven’t been the greatest, but we don’t have the personnel infrastructure to win like that. We’re a fundamentally unsound football that consistently beats itself.

Asshalo said in November 12th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

At this point, the Come to Jesus talk just rings hollow. These guys — coaches and players both — can make whatever statement they like. However, the cruel fact remains: they are not very good. And they will continue to lose until 5-11 or 6-10 has been realized.

ICED BORSCHT said in November 12th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

This team is screaming for a leader, just plain and simple.

Since MM’s main concern after the loss to Tampa was practice, I believe Murphy should have flown in Allen Iverson for this meeting as a motivational speaker on”PRACTICE”.

Where was MM? Was he breaking down tape and cleaning things up?

Dilligaff said in November 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

Besides coaching quarterbacks, can anyone name something McCarthy’s good at? He’s just not a good head coach. It’s that simple. We will never win anything with him. Everytime I come one here, there’s something new about him, and it’s always true. The list of his mistake goes on an on. Wait until the end of the season, and get rid of him.

PACKERS said in November 12th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

Interesting quote by Driver in that article. I am surprised he is so worried about his job. I don’t think Driver is going anywhere just based on the fact he isn’t a free agent next year and next year could be uncapped.

Certain players are (in my opinion) 100 percent safe no matter who the GM/HC are next year.

For example, the Packers aren’t going to want to look for a new QB in an uncapped year. I certainly don’t think Rodgers should be replaced, but for those that do. They aren’t going to try to find a replacement QB in an uncapped year.

sunflower100 said in November 12th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

I think DD isn’t really worried about his job, but, warning his teammates to start worrying about theirs.

Jim in DC said in November 12th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

Maybe Double D is thinking if they keep losing and they don’t fire MM at the end of the year, it might be time for him to retire. Then he wouldn’t have a job. Other than that, you know he’s a lock. He’s playing well which is more than can be said for most others.

foundinidaho said in November 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

So you’re saying that DD should just quit at the high point if his career (not every receiver sets his franchise’s record) just because of management problems? That just doesn’t sound like DD to me.

PACKERS said in November 12th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

I don’t think the offensive schemes are anything they can’t handle. After all, this is an offense with a lot of very good receivers, some vets, and a QB who can be very accurate, as well as mobile. In fact, he’s been the running game at times. Last week was the first time the running game really got anything going consistently. Time to use those full backs and I like the idea of Green and Grant in the backfield. This can be a dynamic offense as evident in the pre-season.
It’s been a perfect storm of errors and penalties and sacks (things the coaches should have brought more urgency to in fixing), a young line that can’t get settled due to rotations and injuries and a young qb on a learning curve. The rhythem of the offense is off as everything is interrelated.
The D. is in a transition. I would have hoped Capers would have blended more of the 4-3/3-4 to ease the move, but they’re doing OK, except for getting consistent pressure on the qb which they will need this week against a strong line. Injuries have messed with this as well.
Murphy stated in the JS article that the necessary structure (coaching) is in place. The coaches insist they practice fundamentals, but it gets lost in game time against real opponents. Is that talent, or pressure? Maybe they need more rah-rah motivation. But the players are professionals and have some responsibility in this as well.
They’ll be up against it this week, can only hope the committment carries over for the whole 60 minutes.

Glorious80s said in November 12th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

No, Packers, I was just speculating that maybe, just maybe, DD is damn tired of all this crap. As are we. I wouldn’t blame him if he wasn’t tired of it.

foundinidaho said in November 12th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

I meant was tired of it. Urgh.

foundinidaho said in November 12th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

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