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Collins' Test Results Expected by Monday

It appears the first answer to a line of questions regarding the NFL future of Green Bay Packers safety Nick Collins will be answered by Monday.

According to Rob Demovsky of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, Collins underwent a "battery of tests" this past week in New York and should receive his results from Dr. Frank Cammisa, the surgeon who operated on the herniated disc in Collins' neck, by the start of next week.

Alan Herman, Collins' agent, spoke with Demovsky Friday.

“I think by Monday we’ll know something,” Herman said. “I assume we’ll knows something by Monday.”

But even if Collins' results come back positive—and the general feeling around the situation is that the results will—Monday will be just the first step of many for Collins to return to the NFL.

As we heard from Packers coach Mike McCarthy at the NFL owners' meetings in Palm Beach, Florida this week, his staff will remain cautious with process.

“I think that’s a starting point,” McCarthy said when asked about Collins' initial medical visit, via ESPN Milwaukee's Jason Wilde.  “I anticipate that (the doctor) is going to say it’s a very positive report because I know they felt good about the surgery. To me, that’s really the first step. Then our doctors have to get involved and we’ll all sit down and talk to Nick and see where Nick is, so it will be a process that we’ll go through."

Everyone in the Packers organization, plus Collins and his family, need to be on the same page for a return. McCarthy said his medical staff will be take every precaution before coming to an agreement.

“Dr. Pat McKenzie and our medical staff, they’re conservative by nature," McCarthy said, again through Wilde. "I think if you ask anybody who’s gone through our program and worked in other places, they’d say, ‘Hey, they do a good job taking care of their players. They’re conservative. We’re not going to put him in harm’s way. If he’s on the field, he’ll be cleared, he’ll be 100 percent and everybody will be comfortable with it.”

No one would blame Collins—a three-time Pro Bowler and Super Bowl champion—for walking away from the game, even if the initial results from Cammisa are positive. Herman acknowledged that Collins probably should end his NFL career if there is any hesitation or worry.

“If there’s the least bit of an issue on any of his scans, I would tell him, ‘You’ve been a Pro Bowl player, you’ve accomplished everything. You had an interception in the Super Bowl; you’ve won a Super Bowl. You’ve done, at this age, everything that you could do. Walk away healthy.’ I would say, ‘Son, walk away healthy.’ I think Nick knows how I feel, but it’s very hard to say to a football player, an accomplished one, walk away healthy.”

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BrianD's picture

That last paragraph:

“If there’s the least bit of an issue on any of his scans, I would tell him, ‘You’ve been a Pro Bowl player, you’ve accomplished everything. You had an interception in the Super Bowl; you’ve won a Super Bowl. You’ve done, at this age, everything that you could do. Walk away healthy.’ I would say, ‘Son, walk away healthy.’ I think Nick knows how I feel, but it’s very hard to say to a football player, an accomplished one, walk away healthy.”

sums up the feelings of Packer Nation. I wish you the best Nick! On to the next pro bowl safety!

Bearmeat's picture

I don't agree BrianD. If Collins gets a clean bill of health, with little chance of reinjury, why wouldn't he play? He's in his prime. He can make a lot more money for his kids kids. And he can help us win another Lombardi!

Come back if you can Nick. If you can't or there are doubts, thanks for the great memories.

bryce's picture

"If Collins gets a clean bill of health, with little chance of reinjury, why wouldn’t he play?"

What if I offered you $1,000 to jump off an 80ft cliff in a lake? But, 1 out of every 100 people that jumped broke there necks and never walked again. Now they have incredibly difficult and uncomfortable lives. Would you jump?

That's why he might not come back even if he get a clean bill of health.

Oppy's picture

Bryce, let's make the analogy a bit more accurate:

What if I offered you $6,000,000 dollars (plus incentives) to jump off an 80ft cliff into a lake- something you've been doing since you were 7 years old.

In fact, you're one of the best cliff-divers in the world.

Even more to the point, you absolutely love cliff diving. More than just a hobby, it's been your life. You IDENTIFY yourself as a cliff-diver. It's who you are.

But, 1 out of every 100 people that jumped broke their necks and never walked again. Now they have incredibly difficult and uncomfortable lives.

But you feel like cliff diving is almost as necessary as breathing to you. And, even if you have already reached the pinnacle of the sport, you feel as though walking away from cliff-diving means you are letting down 52 other cliff-divers that are like brothers to you that could use your help to reach that same pinnacle.

Even your family stands behind your decision to cliff dive, or not, again..

Is it the same easy choice?

New cow smell's picture

I'm jumpin'!

Bearmeat's picture

That's right Oppy.

If Nick is cleared, and there's little chance for re-injury, he will play. He should play if he wants to. And we should allow him to and celebrate his talent helping our team win.

MarkinMadison's picture

To round out the analogy, you need to reference how much money he already has in the bank. None of us really know that amount. And really, isn't that what drove Reggie out of retirement?

bryce's picture

I think you took the analogy a little too far, but I get what you're saying. I'm not saying he shouldn't come back, in fact I hope he would. I'm just saying that I understand why it is a difficult decision for him, whereas Bearmeat's post made it sound like it's a no brainer.

bryce's picture

"He should play if he wants to. And we should allow him to and celebrate his talent helping our team win."

Now that I can agree with. I just don't think it's quite the open and shut case that you were making it out to be.

pkrNboro's picture

After Saturday's contract was announced, the comments turned to Collins.

I was curious how others (besides Peyton) had fared and found the following:

http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/saturday-reportedly-gets-7-75-million-contr...

I don't think he will be at risk of dying or being paralyzed, but I think he will be tentative tackling. Also, he won't have the same range of motion in his neck -- vertebrae have been fused -- and I would think it likely that he has discomfort trying to move his head, as he tracks the ball and then tracks his receiver. All of this adds up to him not being the same player.

While the money is incentive for "us," he already has that kind of money. And while he may want to continue his career, the Packers may over-rule him.

An interesting point in the GBPG article was that Collins agent, Alan Herman, didn't seem optimistic about his return. He had double fusion surgery two weeks after Collins had single fusion, and likely knows firsthand what the inherent limitations are and how they would impact his client.

MarkinMadison's picture

My dad had a fusion in his lower back about 10 years ago. He was told to expect to have difficulty walking. He walks about five miles a day now, literally. I don't mean to compare football with the old man walking his dog. I'm just wondering if they have gotten better at re-hab or the surgical technique, if anyone knows.

Oppy's picture

Mark, another thing to consider is unless your father is filthy rich, he's not getting near the quality of diagnosis, surgery/surgeon, post-op, rehabilitation, etc that a professional sports player is going to receive.

Also factor in that the medical teams most likely factor in the kind of lifestyle the patient lives- or will be living- when they make decisions about the procedures they will (or won't) be doing.

It could be approached from an entirely different angle, and I'm fairly confident the rehab portion is completely tailored to the patient. Collins' rehab is going to be geared toward getting him ready to play pro football, and he has the luxury of making his full-time job doing rehab.

PhillthyPhill's picture

Whatever the case I just grabbed my 36 jersey. Never thought it wouldn't say Butler on the back but he plays/played like a man on a mission, that's Packer people.

Chip Soup's picture

Some great points on both sides of the argument. I think MM tipped his hand a couple of weeks ago (as he often does) when he said that if Nick were his son, he would not let him play. Looks to me like management has already come to a conclusion on this, but going through the process is part of their commitment to Nick. It's a chance to convince him that he is really done, and ease him through it. Get ready for Collins to retire or be released, because I don't think he will play again for GB.

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