The only thing that sticks with me, in terms of 'maybe it's not all on Barbre,' is that Ogunleye's in a contract year. I don't think that excuses him from letting A-Rod get hit so often, but...well...I'm grasping at straws here.

If Barbre has another meltdown sunday, what happens?

Do they call Mark Tauscher right away and if so how soon could he be playing?

I said it in another thread, but it's beyond me how he couldn't even fundamentally/technically perform a kick-slide to get into pass pro. I believe the coaching staff when they say he's the 'most athletic', but how do you miss this?

My bigger issue: Barbre had zero punch and arm extension at the point of attack. This is pass blocking 101. Look at how quick the DE gets into his body with Barbre's arms at his side. Total breakdown in technique. Stuff kids learn during their first camp in college.

What is the status of Tauscher's rehab? I think I remember hearing his recovery would take him until October....?? And, if they sign him now because they don't want to lose him to another team down the road then who do we cut to make room for a guy that can't play yet?

Let's hope he was recovering from the flu. His play looked sick enough.

No time to panic guys. I don't want to see the Oline "musical chairs" we had last year. The Bear Dline and LB's throw a lot at an Oline. Barbre needs experience. He's not going to get that by sitting on the bench.

Everyone take a deep breath..and reeeelllllaaaxxxxx.

Just keep saying...."we won...we won...we won....we won..."

Ahhhhhhhhh.....

Isn't that better.

@Aaron: I'm not about to write him off and it's my hope that 'bright lights' or 'nerves' got the better of Barbre. I'm just concerned about the supposed history of mental lapses he's had, the only thing keeping him out of the starting line-up in the past, showing up on game day.

More importantly, this offense will REALLY fire on all cylinders and reach it's potential if Lee and Finley can run clean routes (not required to chip or stay in for pass pro) at will. The 'X' factor to me is the receiving tight-end and only poor tackle play on either side will prevent this.

Okay, I gotta rant some. Enough with the Tauscher stuff, please?! If you want to suggest Thompson should upgrade the position, then fine. But at least produce a name that carries even a slight probability. From I read, Tauscher isn't even going to work out for anybody until October. And even then, he's coming off the second tear of the ACL on the same leg. Quickly...run down the list of NFL players who have successfully come back from TWO ACL surgeries on the same knee at age 32. Tauscher's career is over, people. ________________________________________________________________________ I'm not sticking up for Barbre. He looks like the rest of the O linemen---capable of playing very well one week, and looking lost the next. And if our beloved coach had the sense to stick a TE outside him after the first quarter, this topic could be quite different today. But Tauscher is toast. What's next..."Paging Ross Verba!!"???

You have to hope he improves, or that Giacomini improves in the meantime. I agree that Lang should start getting some reps as well. If none of the three look passable in the next few weeks, then you get Tauscher in for a workout.

In any event, all this talk about Tauscher has me remembering the Packers undeserved win to start the season two years ago. In that game, Tauscher himself played like a revolving door, giving up multiple sacks to one of the Eagles' ends. He straightened it out. Hopefully Barbe can do the same. But all the talk about how "he wasn't as bad after halftime" is pretty lame. He was still bad. Mark Anderson killed him on a run, nailing Grant for a three yard loss, and he gave up lots of pressures.

"I’m all for giving Barbre one more chance – but if he is anywhere near as bad against the Bengals as he was last night, he needs to be sat down and Thompson needs to put a phone call in to Mark Tauscher." Or put Lang in there. Or anyone. Even Guacamole.

Sorry, Aaron. I don't see Tauscher playing again. If so, I just don't think he (or, like I said, any 32 year old lineman coming off 2 ACL surgeries on the same leg) will be effective enough to function. I'd love to see him come back, better than ever, and slide right into his old job...I should have made that clearer. Just don't see it.

Barbre failed his test. Ogunleye is coming off surgery and is not an All-Pro. Barbre is, like Breno, too damn slow for the position. He was too damn slow last year and nothing has changed. You can't teach speed. He is a problem and unless someone can stick a rocket up his butt don't expect miracles. How many games (real games) did he play in last year? How many games did he finsh on the bench? They better be looking at a solution because his incompetence caused the Packers to adjust their offensive game plan just to try and protect Rodgers from the right side colapse. They need to get Tauscher in ASAP._________________________

The films have been delivered to Cincinatti and they are looking at it with interest. The strength of the team is the wide open style of offense they play. When you need to assign a fullback and TE to the right side every play to help control the pass rush and run options your offensive capability is reduced by 4o%. By the way did you see Lee flaten Ogunleye on a run play? Ogunleye apparently is not Super Man.
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Count me ready to count him out.

Ron i'm with you 100%. Give Barbre another chance -- in the CFL.

I'm with Holly. The Bears were at full strength, and had a full trick bag. The OL took out Tiny Samoa on the second play, and they dislocated Earl Locker's wrist stealing that trick bag. Barbre got the best performance Ogunleye will put out this year, and when we were down by two points, there was enough confidence to dial up a huge play to deliver what might be a knockout punch in WEEK ONE. Look at the carnage on the Bears D, and then at the Packers empty injury report on O.

Well I think neither Cincinnati nor St. Louis has a great rusher on the edge, so let's see how Barbre does vs the Bungles. If he struggles again, let's give Breno and/or Lang some reps vs the Rams and give the best performer of the three the #1 reps during Vikings week.

I'm wondering if the Packers thought about whether or not Barbre would be a question mark before last nights game. Based on his performance it's hard to say he just had a bad game. It was really bad. So I'm wondering if the Packers aren't already planning for plan B. Honestly, I don't think plan B is Giacomini, TJ, or Tauscher. It is one game, but I agree with most of you. This has to be fixed. One players poor performance almost cost our entire offense the game. Finley and Lee were non-existent in the pass game, and Rodgers had no time to throw to our great WR's.

I will also add that I think McCarthy is smart not to play musical chairs with Barbre. There is cause for concern, but moving around guys doesn't solve the problem. That's what the preseason was for, and they have to go on that for right now.

Dont see another serious rush team until the Vikes. Thats when they line up in the new Big 5. 2 TEs and 3 FBs as postulated here on Cheesehead Nation

They should call Tauscher regardless of what happens next week. This problem could lie dormant against Cinci and STL and then come up to kills us even worse against MN and any other team with a decent RT.

The coaches (hopefully) know what was wrong with Barbre or know how to get him right. Ogunleye is not "superman," but he's no slouch either. The dude can get around the corner. Remember, Marinelli is coaching that Dline, trying to prove he's a real coach after all.
Barbre seems to have shown he can at least get it done before, so we'll see what happens. Right now he's got a target on his back.
One thing I'm really getting sick of though, is TT's philosophy that you can just get "guys" for the OL and just "plug them in." Look at all we went through with Colledge. Are we going to have to wait another three years for Barbre? At least he's playing in his right position.

Lay off Babre first of all. Young new and playing a combined __ snaps in his NFL career culminated last night against a veteran DE. You can not blame the kid entirely and you can not blame TT at all. He made a business decision as well as a team one. Taushcer is depleted, a guy like that having knee surgery is different then a WR or even LB. Trust me i love Taush, I am a huge Badger fan and my heart is in Wisconsin. So to see that big boy make it is inspiring. But we are trying to win and set up for the future, WHICH in TT process is NOW. This years depth and explosive starters are a culmination of TT. Yes we will struggle at positions but blame it on McCarthy bud. This isnt baseball, guys dont have 162 games to get out of a slump, sub, move up WORK WITH WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR OFFENSE! However, Babre simply needs confidence and know how. Both of which involve on the job training, those intangibles you can not teach. He will gain it in the next couple games against weaker opponents. If, by mid season this guy shows no improvment then we KNOW our weak spot. Do not throw the kid under the bus after one game, against a (or was) stellar defense, against a veteran DE.

Oh by the way, McCarthy can make it a little less PREDICTABLE...can't he?

Phil, i'd feel differently about Barbre if he had showed much promise in the previous 2 years. Unfortunately, he won the job more or less by default, which means that the Packers don't have a lot of options unless they sign somebody like Jon Runyon, who's 36 and probably wants more money than TT is willing to pay. I get the feeling that TT will stand pat.
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This is a major problem. Maybe they can get through the cushy part of the schedule with Barbre, but they won't get through the playoffs without stronger play from RT -- and that's assuming they get there.

Watched the rewind feed. Of every snap I put babre at plus 14, minus 6 plays and neutral on the rest. In retro if dd snags a few more balls it's not even a close game at halftime.
So I agree with Phillip about chillin