Agreed. The Packers must surround Love with as much talent as possible. But, it won't be Marvin Harrison, Jr. Packers need to surround Love with O-Line talent not another WR. Plus, the Packers will not spend a R1 pick on a WR when the glaring problems are on the O-Line.

Oh no, we suck again! In a Cajon accent.

1. Drafting Harrison would make TOO much sense,
2. If I'm Harrison I don't want to play with Love.
3. And paying for a washed up WR is Dumb!.
Because thats the only veteran that would come here.
4. The cost of getting back into the first rd. would be a 1 and 3.
But the franchise Tackle would be gone.
So do you want a Mandrich, Spriggs or Bargain.

Regardless- nice try, but we may have to draft a Qb.

Actually watching the Packers offense is like getting a root canal and colonoscopy simultaneously while the 1-800 Kars for Kids song is played on a loop on your headphones.

Hey, I don’t have any problems with this proposal. Even if they move on from Jordan Love it would be nice to have a really good WR1 for whoever takes his place. I think this year has shown us all across the league what happens when a team doesn’t have the right skill players to reliably play consistent NFL caliber football. At any rate, this scenario shouldn’t hurt the Packers offensively in any way. I’ll be carrying the G no matter what.

I think you missed to boat on Love. Going out and getting a good receiver you cant get the ball to because your arm sucks and you cant read a defense fast enough wont make him a better QB.
Fisrt. He played three seasons on college ball so like no receivers there were any good for him to improve and hone his skills. You havent looked at his stats or you would know thats not the issue.

Love was a so so 4th round pick as a back up at best or more then likely not drafted at all. He showed nothing and did nothing in college but toss picks and throw 8 yard passes because he couldnt read a d.

We have receivers. We dont need any more, they however need someone who can delvier the ball

This makes me feel a cold draft down my neck.

Taking a swing in week 8.

Might have to have a cold draft.

One step closer to drafting one of the best QB's coming out, it will be a race between us and the Vqueens on who gets the better of it !

I usually don't think about the next year's draft until the season is over. Since Rex brought it up, I am looking and there are 4 OT's that could go in the top 10 picks. That's where GB should look for their 1st round pick. Forget about a WR, as the line is more important. I thought they did a good job of stockpiling offensive linemen with 9 drafted in 20, 21, and 22 but only Tom and Runyan look to be quality starters. Jenkins came in 2019 as a center and is their best lineman. It seems like the later line picks are just for depth, as they rarely turn into great players. Guyton (Oklahoma), Fashanu (Penn State), or Mims (Georgia) would be a much-needed strength for Green Bay.

It doesn't matter who they draft if the coaching staff remains intact. The team seems unprepared and mentally unengaged. There's too many penalties, too many missed assignments and too little football smarts. In a word, this team is soft. That's a reflection of/on the coaching staff. The offense is disjointed and stale. The defense has always played soft under Barry. They all seem clueless what to do about it. The post game mantra from both the coaches and the players is starting to sound like a broken record--"we need to be better." How brilliant and insightful. High draft picks aren't going to change any of that.

When the time comes to draft next year I don't want present Packer MGT making the selection. This group of mgt people have been making draft selections for the past 5 years and here is your result. A AAA Football team. Time to clean house in the front office... AR12 and D Adams saw this coming years ago. Fire MGT... It all starts at the top.

Here are my thoughts.

It looks to me like we will be getting a very high pick for the first time in a long time.

I know we have needs on the DL, Safety, etc. However, when you get a pick as high as I believe we will get this next draft a couple of things come to mind.

The first decision we need to make is: Is Love the answer at QB for now and the future? If so, that makes it somewhat easier in deciding who we should draft with your first pick. If not, then we need to pick on of the top two QB's if it is felt that they are the undisputed answer to our QB questions for the future.

I know that there are many who think we need to get one of the top OT's available and they could be right. However, if we are going to be a championship calibar team in a few years then we need to select a 'can't miss' stud player as our first pick. Even if we are somewhat strong at that position on our current team, we need a difference maker. From what I have heard, Harrison is that player and if so, let's go get him. Look, we aren't going anywhere next year either so we need to position ourselves for 2025 and beyond.

Can anyone honestly saw from what they remember of preseason that Clifford actually looked worse than Love even back then. Time to see what Clifford can do on the NFL level. Why did they keep him if not good enough and not bring in a vet? Noe of any reasoning washes for that move, unless of course they think Clifford is more than able! If I remember right Clifford has a good arm, is more accurate and makes decisions much quicker than Love. Love looks both lost and frightened out there.

Only in the NFL is losing winning.
I, for one, had no grandiose hopes for many packer victories this season. I am looking at a top 10 pick as a best case scenario. As a result, I am really enjoying the season.
PACK falls behind in the first half as the young and salary starved offense tries to get their legs under them. The score remains close enough to keep things interesting until the 4th quarter when the young kids come to life as the old overpaid guys on the other side get tired. In the end, the kids lose, but I find joy in looking at the league records and see that only 2 teams have fewer losses than my PACK!

Undoubtedly, this topic will be mulled over ad nauseam once the season's (officially) over and we'll know GB's draft position.

We know receivers in GB's system take a few years to prove whether they've got it or not -- we're not there yet to know if Watson, Doubs, any others slot as legit WR1 or WR2s. So a case can be made for 'wait them out; draft elsewhere.'

In the last 20 years, it seems overall GB has done a very good job developing mid-round OL picks into very solid starters and more. That seems to have shifted in the last few years as Steno left as OL position coach. I'd like GB to spend a lot of time picking his brain as to what made his magic work on the O-line as his resume there is excellent. (https://www.packers.com/team/coaches-roster/adam-stenavich). In a way this would allow GB to not feel a need to use a #1 pick on an OL -- an area of obvious need. I get GB needed to promote Steno to not lose him, but we know where he's worked his magic. I would hate to see him booted in the off-season b/c the offense did not produce and he was O-Coordinator. Barry can go; not Steno.

If I had to choose one position or the other, I'd break with Vic's 'dime a dozen' philosophy and take Harrison as he could be very special. A guy who could possibly change the way defenses align -- elevating the running game, making the O-line and QB look better.

I didn't watch the Vikes games so don't know how Love did. But I read recently that he (has to) throw into the tightest windows in the league (as his receivers have least separation). Will that change as they know the system better?

Must be drinking the same Kool Aid as FO and coaching staff. Packers need to draft the best QB they possibly can. They must not pass up Caleb Williams if available. Best WR in world wont help if QB is inaccurate or cant get him the ball consistently. Franchise QBs don't grow on trees.

Oline needs to be the 1st rd pick.... period.

“All seem ordinary”—-that’s sums it up very well.
Go Packers!!!

Yeah, Harrison would be a good pick.

But hey, these last three loses, the Packers had a chance to win all three games. Even against the Vikings, they had two chances inside the Viking 10 yard lines to score. We need these things to happen:

Lafleur needs to encourage Love to hit the checkdowns and dink and dunk down the field. Love is throwing down the field too much when the players are not open.

How the defense played is about the best we can expect with Barry. But the still gave the offense enough chances in the 4th quarter. Time to fire Barry and try something different. Barry will not help the team win.

Then, Lafleur needs to get his players playing better and help Love out. All these penalties, roughing, dropped passes and whiffing on blocks (time to play Nijman) and all sorts of miscues have to fixed. Lafleur is in charge of players attitudes.

Listening to Cowerd today and he apparently has been paying attention to my analysis of Love.
When you aren’t 10 for 10 on check down throws, you have a problem; Exactly what I see.
I’ve said previously, I see some Tebow in Love, i.e., can’t make an easy play of wheel route to a rb.
With the exception of Walker, I don’t see anyone playing with urgency or physicality.
But frankly, as much as I deplore Barry, most/all of these losses fall at the feet of the offense.
Go Packers!!!

It is just way way too early to think about next years draft. At the end of the season we will be able to know who exactly is even in the draft. Moreover at the end of the season we will need to do a full assessment of all the players and the needs of the team. Also, we do not know where we will be drafting. If we draft in the top 5 there may be an opportunity to trade down to a team who would offer us a huge bounty for a top 5 pick including at least one first round and maybe even two and an additional player! Look at what Denver gave up for it's QB. Was it two ones and a two? So.... let's just wait and see. Additionally, Marvin Harrison is not the only receiver in the draft. It seems to me a greater priority is O-line and a dynamic playmaker at RB.This is what is needed to help Love. People forget that Aaron Rodger after sitting on the bench for years was nothing to write home about his first year starting, So, ease up on the Love bashing. That said, If at the end of the season Love has not shown enough progress we ought not rule out taking a QB with the top 5 pick. It is just way to premature at this time to speculate.

Let’s get real here. Love is not the future. 1st round pick needs to be QB.

Not giving up on Jordan love ?
Someone needs to figure out , after 4 years of practice and NFL games
How or why is Jordan Loves footwork so terrible,
Why is his second and third option recognition the same ( terrible )
Why is he panic throwing into windows that are already closed
Why is he underthrowing almost all his long passes
and finally why is he not showing any trait of leadership needed at that position.

The packers must find answers to these questions before bi-passing a chance at a potential
franchise quarterback.... if that opportunity should present itself in 2024 draft

What is the point of drafting great WR when you have crappy O-line. No matter who will be at the helm, this concept is leading nowhere. Firstly provide competent O-line, secondly weapons.

Why are the green bay media soft when adking lafluer questions. I understand he doesnt control talent evaluation but he does control his coaching staff. Why not ask why the defense keeps regressing under barry every yr or why the offense has regressed under stwnovich every yr?

Follow up by saying are you poor evaluator of coordinators or is the hiring out of your control ?

I don't believe MLF has the rolodex of coaches that the head needs to have in order to assemble a quality staff. RB would probably be the better option having been in the league several more years than the younger MLF.

MLF needs to take the OC job as his own for the remainder of the year and send Steno back to coaching the OL. This offense has had no real plan when is steps on to the field in the last year and a half. Always fits and starts within the game and within both seasons. Too bad they didn't jump at the opportunity to get Hackett when he was canned last year.

Trade deadline seller...AJones, PSmith etc, acquire draft capital, clean house in coaching staff...perhaps we could get a 2for1 Prime membership, father & son. Mark Murphy wants to leave a legacy, this is the solution he should be seeking. If Reggie made it to GB, so too can coach Prime. When weighing what we have in MLF & company, the thought is quite polarizing.

If you really want to surround Love with Talent.
You Fix the OL first. - Therefore this is my early draft.
See if you can top it Bird dog- I don't need the Combine.
Olumuyiwa FASHANU. - Penn State
Taliese Fuaga. Ot Oregon. Rd 2
Cullen Bullock S. USC Rd. 2 Jets.
Graham Barton C. Duke. Rd. 3

All I heard this summer was how our OL was one of the best. Bakhtiari being out is obviously huge, but we also heard about all our depth with the draft capital we’ve invested in, so what happened? I definitely didn’t expect much this season as most people will agree. Will Love be the answer remains to be seen, but thru 7 games, to me he has been disappointing. Clearly not all his fault, but his accuracy is a big concern as it was in college from what I’ve read. Not even half way thru so time will tell. I remember Mark Murphy saying this summer that half way thru this season he’ll know if Love will be our QB going forward. I’m hoping a reporter or two will remind him of his comments and to see if it’s changed. Win or lose GPG.

Harrison Jr!? Someone hasn’t been following the Packers modus operandi. Think LT. God forbid we get a 1st round weapon on offense.

So many holes to fill, so few picks, it will take years to correct and won’t happen until Alfred E. Newman is gone in 2 years.

Marvin Harrison Jr could slap Gute in the face over and over again and say look at me, look at me, but won't get drafted by the Packers if it is the first round. I am sure that is some stellar defensive player we already have our eyes on. Harrison Jr should at least have the courtesy to fall to the 2nd round so we would consider him.

I get the thinking here, but when has a top WR actually turned a team around? DET with Megatron and a great QB in Stafford just continued to lose despite their ability to connect and have amazing production. I just don't see WR as a premier enough position to be used that high in the draft. As Vic Ketchman used to say, "WRs are a dime a dozen." Now, I know guys like Harrison are not a dime a dozen, but the rarer players are the great linemen and pass rushers. That's who you use high picks on.

If you watched the Lions game last night then you saw the answer to Marvin Harrison jr idiocy before your eyes.
Great receiver wide open and the QB over throws him. Same receiver going for a first down and the QB, under throws him. That receiver is now pissed off and then some of going from being great and a record setter to being on a team going nowhere with a QB going nowhere.
No receiver can fix Love. Period. He sucked in college and some of those receivers, at least one had to be decent.
Why do pack fans think this avg QB in and avg league become something in the NFL. Love didnt cut it for Div 1 FBS for a reason. No coaches wanted him.
Give it up. Accept this was a bad pick and move the hell on to someone else.

Unless GB is picking 3rd, both of the best QB's and Harrison will be gone. Harrison will be a star in this league and if you haven't watched him give yourself a treat. The difference between him and our guy Watkins is how they catch the ball. Harrison is so fluid and catches everything while Watkins never goes and get the ball, he waits for it to get to him and thus plays like he is 6 feet tall.
If we stay at #6 we should get 1 of the top 3, can't miss OT's. That is exactly what we need this year. GB can't afford to trade up and waste picks this year, too many needs. As it stands now, we have 5 picks in the first 100. OT, Safety, RB, MLB, Edge would be a great start to rebuilding. Maybe the Wisconsin or Michigan RB's since we won't have Jones or Dillon next year. Also, middle LB is a sneaky need since Campbell will be too expensive to keep.

Harrison is very interesting though as he is a gamechanger. Just like Bijan Robinson was last year. I was in the "I would not be pissed if we took him with our 1st round pick" way of thinking last year. People on here really shot that down, but how has that worked out for the Falcons. And look what he did to us this year. I think we all thought the strongest part of the offense this year would be the running game. And it's a big reason Love has struggled so far. Who would have guessed?
Hindsight is great. If we had drafted Bijan and traded Bahk last year that would be 2 big problems solved. And got a new D Coordinator, and got Devante back, etc. etc. etc. I would be fine with Harrison this year in the first. And the best OT next. Safety with our 3rd pick.