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By: Cheesehead TV » Post Topic » This One’s For You Bedard…

Cheesehead TV » Post Topic » This One’s For You Bedard… — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:16:11 +0000

[...] readers of Cheesehead TV will remember my stance when the Bears traded for Jay Cutler. Basically, I saw a desperate move. This was followed by my somewhat (admittedly) snarky response to Greg Bedard’s anointing [...]

By: ReadyforSomeFB

ReadyforSomeFB — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:51:07 +0000

And here we have Chicago loving to hate their QB’s – and the media. JC is screwed, he just doesn’t have the personality to handle this. Am glad he didn’t go to Minnie, but even then Chilly’s playcalling would still suck. However, he does love to pamper his QB’s which is what JC needs. He’s a punk.

By: More Cutler Reax « Ol’ Bag of Donuts

More Cutler Reax « Ol’ Bag of Donuts — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:03:27 +0000

[...] over at Cheesehead TV had a great take on how desperate the Bears are and that this move may end up being Herschel Walker part [...]

By: buckslayernyc

buckslayernyc — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:19:34 +0000

You know……he may be the next Jeff George at that, hmmm

that should keep the people in Chicago awake at night.

Hah!

By: Bears Acquire Cutler (UPDATED) « PACKERwatch

Bears Acquire Cutler (UPDATED) « PACKERwatch — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:54:31 +0000

[...] blunder since Emperor Valens enlisted Goth mercenaries to defend Rome against other Goths. CheeseheadTV explains why the Bears gave up way too much to get Cutler. Possibly related posts: (automatically [...]

By: Keith

Keith — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:44:14 +0000

Andrew, it’s not like the Cowboys acquired 3 Pro Bowlers. They had to nail the draft picks. Lucky for the Cowboys, Jimmy Johnson is pretty good at evaluating talent. We’ll see how Denver does. Plus, I really don’t think they gave up a lot. Mike Lombardi at the National Football Post explained it best. I urge you to go and read his article.

By: jerseypackfan

jerseypackfan — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:26:25 +0000

scrum – Jay Cutler QB rating 87.1
That was with a great WR in Brandon Marshall. When he gets to Chicago what is he going to throw to? Factor in their aging defense and now for the next two years they are not getting a number one pick.
I`m with Aaron, Cutler aint nothing to brag about! Why else would Denver`s head coach try and get Matt Cassell (who has played only complete season in 6 years)

By: WoodyG

WoodyG — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:24:38 +0000

What I like most about Cutler is that he’s alot like Favre.
What I like least about Cutler is that he’s alot like Favre.

Strange but true.

By: bucky

bucky — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:18:55 +0000

I don’t get the love for Cutler from some here. He’s an ok quarterback, but he was a step down for the Broncos from the previous guy, Jake Plummer. He’s Jeff George 2.0. Will he make the Bears better? I don’t see it. Orton at least was good at managing a game; Cutler still hasn’t learned to do that.

I think Aaron is right that the real problem with the Bears is their supposedly-tough defense. I’ve said for years that the key to their defense was Mike Brown; when he was healthy, their defense was top-notch. When he was not (far too often, unfortunately for them), their D was pretty mediocre. He was Bob Sanders/Troy Polamalu before those guys made their names. Urlacher is not and never was the key to that D, and without a healthy Brown (or someone like him in his stead), the Bears will continue to blow.

By: packeraaron

packeraaron — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:12:06 +0000

scrump – you mean Shanahan would ride in with a bare cupboard, an aged defense and his track record as a GM? Love it.

By: scrumptrulesent

scrumptrulesent — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:01:37 +0000

jerseypackfan: Wish I was as confident as you about this trade. Please enlighten me on how this move made the Norse easier to win please. I’m all ears.

Aaron: Washington was hoping for a Cutler/Shanny reunion in time. What if the Bears are thinking the same? It’s not too funny then.

By: packeraaron

packeraaron — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:35:14 +0000

Ryeguy – could not agree more. Everyone is making Cutler out to be like he’s John Elway and Peyton Manning wrapped together with a sprinkling of Johnny U thrown in. It’s absurd. The kid has the tools – but he’s going from one of the better QB coaches in the league in Shanahan to Ron Turner? Really?

By: Ryeguy812

Ryeguy812 — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:12:29 +0000

It’s been pointed out but worth reiterating: with Cutler the Bears got a tremendous talent; but with the Bears Cutler got a coaching staff that knows nothing about the QB position. The Bears are going to rely on Hester and Earl Bennett to catch passes from a rocket armed QB? Watch Cutler’s TD/INT ratio get worse (it was 28/18 last season) as his coaching declines.

By: jerseypackfan

jerseypackfan — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:09:54 +0000

I was cracking up when this was announced yesterday. I love this trade. Thank you Bears!!! The NFC Norse just got a lot easier to win.

By: scrumptrulesent

scrumptrulesent — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:09:35 +0000

I tend to agree with most here in disagreeing with Aaron on this. Who gives a crap about 2 first round picks? Look at the Packer’s last few 1st rounders. Would they be worth giving up for a 25 year old proven NFL quarterback? And don’t say he’s not proven because that’s a cop out. He’s proven that he can play in this league, and play well….unlike his draft mates Vince Yound and Linehart. Chicago gave a lot in draft picks but they’re gambling that they’ve got a great QB for the next 10 years. He could make the WR’s better ala Brett Favre as stated before. Their defense could be more successful since they won’t feel that they need to win every game because their offense is “safe” and can’t be counted on in crunch time.

Add to it the future for QB’s coming into the league. What’s on the horizon? Coy Wire? Tebow? Sanchez this year? Not a whole lot and more and more colleges are going to a spread offense to QB pickings is less every year.

I don’t believe this to be a desperate move by Angelo. I think the move makes perfect sense and the Bears should probably be favorites in the North now for 2009. It’s scary.

By: packeraaron

packeraaron — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:22:34 +0000

Keith – I have to take anything you say in regards to Cutler with a grain of salt, what with your huge man-crush and all.

Yes, as I said in my post, the Bears improved themselves. Today. Tomorrow? Not so much – or did I miss Angelo’s stellar track record when it comes to drafting and/or signing premier offensive talent? Yes, they got Pace. What’s he got left, a year? Maybe two? And don’t drive the lane with “Rashied Davis is a solid 3rd/4th WR” – by God man. You’re right – the Packers are screwed!

By: Andrew n Atlanta

Andrew n Atlanta — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:59:54 +0000

It’s like Hershel Walker because it’s mortgaging the future for the present. All the Cowboys got from the Hershel deal was three Pro Bowlers? Geez, only 3?
Also, I said the Bears would get better short term, but this hurts their ability to stock long term. Yes, I’m a little worried in 2009, but the Bears D showed they were getting old last year and obviously you can’t cure age (especially without draft picks).
I also feel like Denver is not done. They have 12 picks now and two first rounders. There are a number of ways they can maneuver. I love this deal for Denver

By: buckslayernyc

buckslayernyc — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:59:12 +0000

It will be interesting to see how Cutler handles the Chicago Media…..He is not the most engaging guy, he broods even when he smiles…That is not going to fly. You know the thing people are really missing here is Chicago’s absence of a great O.C. Shannahan knows a thing or two about throwing the rock…Chicago does not. Franchise QBs that don’t succeed right away have a way of getting coaches fired in the offseason….They did not give up 3 picks and QB for Lovie…
I am just sayin’…..

By: Keith

Keith — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:02:28 +0000

LACHEEZ, why do you not like Cutler?

JoshyWoshy, I’m with you. I would like to add that while the Bears’ WRs aren’t world beaters, they’re not as bad as people are making them out to be. Brandon Lloyd was playing well before getting injured (although he’s an UFA) and Rashied Davis is a solid 3rd/4th WR. Devin Hester could be a gamebreaker… remember how Steve Smith got his start? A name to keep tucked away is Earl Bennett. He was the Bears’ 3rd round pick last year and didn’t catch a pass. However, he’s been working as their #2 WR in camp and was all SEC playing at… VANDERBILT.

Further, they could sign someone like DJ Hackett, Hank Baskett, Jerry Porter, or Ron Curry. Or even sign someone like Malcolm Floyd to an offer sheet. I know none of these guys are great WRs, but someone like Porter has the ability and look at what happened with Antonio Bryant… talented, out of the league for a year, monster season last year. All of these guys are as talented as Schroeder or Ferguson were. When you have a QB like Cutler, he can be a HUGE difference maker.

By: LACHEEZ

LACHEEZ — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:17:45 +0000

just another reason for the packers to get some freakin’ pass rush. cutler is a weenie and my number 3 favorite player to not like in the NFL – right after T.O. and Phillip “D-Bag” Rivers. Please TT give us some pass rush this year! it would be amazing to see cutler get hit over and over again! Twice in one season from the green and gold!

By: joshywoshybigfatposhy

joshywoshybigfatposhy — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:21:46 +0000

here’s where i disagree…

i know cutler is not late 90′s favre, but…

favre played with mediocre receivers and a mediocre defense under sherman and we still went 12-4 and were perennial playoff participants. the difference is one pretty good receiver. a driver, a freeman, something like that. you don’t need a stable of studs with a guy like cutler.

you know, i can’t really work it out logically, just compare the bears now to the packers under sherman. robert ferguson, bill schroeder, etc. still better than the bears now, i know… but i think the comparison holds at least a little water. … i’m just sayin’

but i’m glad he’s not in minnesota too.

the cutler in the purple pajamas. dude. worthy fu#@in’ adversary. well, woulda been.

By: Keith

Keith — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:09:31 +0000

I think those who compare this to the Walker trade are way off base. First, Cutler plays the most important position on the football field and should be a very good to great QB for the next 10 years. I know we’re a bit spoiled in GB, having gone from Favre to Rodgers, but these kinds of QBs don’t grow on trees. Second, those draft picks are essentially lottery tickets. The Cowboys netted 6 (SIX) draft picks in the Walker deal, and the only notable players selected with these draft picks were Emmitt Smith, Russell Maryland, and Darren Woodson. Granted, those are 3 Pro Bowlers, but what are the odds of the Broncos selecting even one Pro Bowler with their 3 picks? Sure, the draft picks are nice, but Jay Cutler is a top 5 QB right now. This isn’t Denver trading for Elway or the Giants trading for Eli. Cutler has proven that he can play in this league. 25 year old Pro Bowl QBs with rocket arms don’t come down the pike every day.

By: Stanislaw

Stanislaw — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:32:17 +0000

This is a bad move . . . for the Pack – this gives the Bears life. Now they can come back when they are down when you knew Orton or Grossman were just slugs and could only ‘manage games.’

And who did Denver have – Brandon Marshall – c’mon, the guy is an overrated stiff. With Forte and Olsen, they become formidable. And with Marinelli coaching up the dline with some pretty good athletes. You have to think they will be up there to win the division.

Of course, we’re talking paper here, let’s see what happens when the bullets are live.

By: bomdad

bomdad — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:28:20 +0000

1) can the bears coaches live up to the challenge? turner?
2) can Angelo replenish his D with the now limited picks?
3) will they sign Holt or Harrison, even old these guys are good
4) will Bears fans be able to cope with a #1 QB? they love to love the backup guy. Neckbeards are painful to shave.

By: BobbyOShea

BobbyOShea — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:11:40 +0000

As much as I hate to say it, I disagree. Cutler is a hell of a quarterback who instantly makes the Bears better. They already have a good running back in place, and with the threat of the long ball, they could make some noise. Fortunately for us, the receivers are garbage and the defense is getting old.