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10 Questions the Packers Hope to Answer During Training Camp

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10 Questions the Packers Hope to Answer During Training Camp

Green Bay Packers Andrew Quarless and T.J. Lang by Matthew Emmons—USA TODAY Sports.

Green Bay Packers Andrew Quarless and T.J. Lang by Matthew Emmons—USA TODAY Sports.

The Green Bay Packers will report to St. Norbert College on Friday, July 25th for the start of training camp. Practices begin Saturday, July 26 and run through the end of August, with Green Bay's final preseason game against the Kansas City Chiefs on Thursday, August 28th wrapping up the prep work for the regular season. 

Here are 10 questions the Packers hope to answer over that time period:

 

How many quarterbacks will make the final roster?

In recent years, the Packers have been comfortable keeping just two quarterbacks on the 53-man roster, with another younger quarterback stashed away on the practice squad. There's a chance general manager Ted Thompson will once again go that route, keeping Aaron Rodgers and either Matt Flynn or Scott Tolzien while also retaining undrafted free agent Chase Rettig on the practice squad. However, the more likely scenario has the Packers keeping three quarterbacks—Rodgers, Flynn and Tolzien—for the first time since 2008. Flynn has more than proven his worth as a backup who can win meaningful games, and Tolzien flashed enough potential over his brief playing time last season to warrant a longer look. Unless Tolzien flops over the next month, or Tolzien plays so well that he leapfrogs Flynn, the Packers are probably best served keeping all three. Here's what we do know: the quarterback room in Green Bay is in much better shape now than it was this time a year ago. 

Who will win the starting spot at safety alongside Morgan Burnett?

The safety position will attract attention all camp long, and for good reason. After receiving a disastrous 2013 season from the safety group, the Packers aggressively attacked the position—drafting a first-round safety for the first time in the Ted Thompson era and introducing Micah Hyde to the position this spring. The two players the Packers thought would solve the position last summer are gone; M.D. Jennings is now in Chicago, and Jerron McMillian couldn't even make it out of his second season in Green Bay. It's now on Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Hyde to provide answers. Both players will be given a chance to start alongside Burnett, who played poorly in 2013 but who should be capable of holding his place among the defense's 11 starters. There will be a learning curve for both Clinton-Dix (as a rookie) and Hyde (moving to a new position), but there's potential for vast improvement. The player who lines up opposite Burnett in Seattle during Week 1 will earn it over the next month.  

Will JC Tretter or Corey Linsley start at center?

The Packers offensive line is comfortably set at four of five positions. Bryan Bulaga returns at right tackle, David Bahktiari enters his second year at left tackle and Josh Sitton and T.J. Lang remain a top guard duo.The one question mark is at center, where Green Bay will start its fourth different player in as many seasons. The year-to-year turnover is probably an over-dramaticized issue, but there's no doubting both Tretter and Linsely will enter camp as unproven commodities. Tretter hasn't even played an NFL preseason game, and Linsley was the 161st pick in last May's draft. Tretter is the front-runner, thanks in large part to having a year in the Packers system. But Linsley brings experience (26 collegiate starts at center) and toughness (36 reps at the combine) to the equation, so he can't be ruled out. The Packers can stage a true competition at the position and then pick the best man for the job once the dust settles. Who ever wins out will then be in position to hold the job for the foreseeable future.  

How will the tight end depth chart look?

Jermichael Finley (neck) hasn't been cleared, and there are no signs that he's close to being cleared, so he can't factor into the Packers' plans at tight end. What Green Bay can count on is a diverse group of young players at the position. The depth chart is wide open, with no jobs locked up and no player guaranteed a spot on the roster. Andrew Quarless has starting experience, but he's missed all of the offseason program with an undisclosed injury. The players to watch are Richard Rodgers, who impressed everyone during the spring; Brandon Bostick, the closest player on the roster in terms of size and movement ability to Finley; and Colt Lyerla, the talented undrafted free agent who is getting a chance at redemption in Green Bay. Ryan Taylor and Jake Stoneburner will also factor in. Not having Finley available is an unquestioned blow to the offense, but the remaining players offer an intriguing mix of skills. Camp will decide which of those skills the Packers want to feature at the position. 

Who will return kicks and punts?

The Packers were well below average returning kicks (20.3 average, just five returns over 30 yards) and above average returning punts (11.3 average, one touchdown) last season. Micah Hyde eventually settled both groups, but it's certainly possible his emergence on the defense will limit Green Bay's desire to risk him on special teams. The Packers have tried a variety of players at returner this offseason, including rookies Jared Abbrederis and Jeff Janis, and running back DuJuan Harris. Abbrederis might be too frail to trust as a full-time returner, and Janis isn't even a lock to make the team. Randall Cobb is still far too important to the offense to risk. The Packers have certainly struggled to replace him. Jeremy Ross lost crucial fumbles against the 49ers in the 2012 playoffs and against Cincinnati last season. Safe-handling the football is important, but so is production. The Packers slipped in average starting field position in 2013, thanks in part to the struggles returning kicks. Camp will provide an opportunity for a player to give the Packers something more there in 2014. 

How many receivers should the offense keep?

This might be the deepest group of receivers the Packers have had in some time. There are some unknowns, but also a ridiculous amount of depth, with as many as nine of the 10 receivers able to claim a case for making the final roster. Not many teams can say that this time of year. It will make for some difficult decisions for Ted Thompson, but it's a good problem to have. Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin and Davante Adams are roster locks. The decisions come at the fifth and sixth receiver spots, given the Packers keep that many. Myles White played in seven games last season, Chris Harper was a rare waiver claim by Thompson, Kevin Dorsey has the size-speed combination, and Abbrederis and Janis have the benefit of being drafted rookies. Picking two out of that group won't be easy. Thompson and Mike McCarthy will have to balance what they see over the next month and how they project the young players down the road. But make no mistake: the Packers should (and almost certainly will) keep the one or two receivers who show the most from now until the end of August. Game on. 

What will Julius Peppers' role be?

Outsiders already have a pretty good feel for how the Packers will use Peppers, who represents the team's most significant free agent signing since Charles Woodson. An athletic freak (even at 34) who was featured as a 4-3 defensive end his entire career, Peppers will now play a hybrid "elephant" position in Green Bay. The expectation is that Dom Capers will employ him most as a stand-up outside linebacker in his traditional 3-4 look. But Peppers can also put his hand on the ground or slide inside when the Packers go to nickel, which is more or less the team's base defense. Capers won't want to show his hand in August, but the Packers must also establish how Peppers is going to work in the defense's various looks. In a month's time, we should have a slightly better idea about how No. 56 will be utilized in 2014.  

Will the status quo win again at inside linebacker?

Inside linebacker was universally viewed as a problem area for Green Bay entering this offseason, but little was done to improve the position. The team signed a couple of undrafted free agents (Joe Thomas, Jake Doughty), but the team won't be expecting the newcomers to push for a starting job. A.J. Hawk and Brad Jones are still penciled in as starters, with Jamari Lattimore and Sam Barrington as the two most prominent backups. Can either youngster push Jones to make the starting 11? Lattimore looked like a quality NFL starter against Baltimore and Cleveland in 2013, but his performance tailed off late. Barrington has athleticism but he needs to make a big second-year jump. Jones probably takes more heat than he actually deserves, but it's obvious the Packers need to be better up the middle in 2014. This camp will determine if there's a new pecking order. 

Which outside linebackers will make the team?

Like receiver on offense, the Packers defense is similarly stacked (depth-wise) at outside linebacker. Barring an unforeseen set of events, Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, Nick Perry and Mike Neal will be roster locks. Rookie Carl Bradford is a very good bet to make the team. These realities do not leave much wiggle room on the depth chart, but then what will come of Andy Mulumba, Nate Palmer and Adrian Hubbard? Mulumba and Palmer played important snaps last season, and Hubbard has rare size and intriguing potential. Unlike a year ago, depth is not a problem for the Packers at outside linebacker. But the number of bodies means that significant sorting out will need to be done over the next month. It's certainly possible the Packers will have to let go an outside linebacker they really like. 

Will the tweaks on defense make a difference?

OK, so maybe this question won't be answered until well into the regular season. But is there any one factor that will impact the Packers' 2014 season more? Green Bay gave up 46 touchdowns and forced just 22 turnovers last season. Mike McCarthy has made defensive improvement his primary offseason goal, much like he did with the running game last spring and summer. The defense will now aim for less volume but more variety, with hopes that the subtle tweaks will help unleash the team's playmakers. Health is also a major factor; without injuries, Capers has all the talent he needs to field a competitive defense. He won't be doing any unleashing in August, but we should see some of the little changes once the pads come on and real hitting begins. The application of the defensive adjustments, which the Packers hope will bring significant change, begins in camp. Any improvement you see in September or October first needs to start in August. 

 

Zach Kruse contributes to Cheesehead TV. He is also the Lead Writer for the NFC North at Bleacher Report. You can reach him on Twitter @zachkruse2 or by email at zachkruse2@gmail.com.

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Mojo's picture

Ok, rapid fire responses:

1. 2
2. HaHa
3. J.C.
4.RRII, Bostick, Lyerla,Taylor
5.No idea.
6. 6
7.Kick ass
8. No
9.Hubbard
10. Yes

jmac34's picture

no quarless at TE?

COW's picture

I would love to see Quarless get cut.
Time to get rid of all the "treading water for 3 years" guys.
We've seen what Quarless is.
Time to move on.

RC Packer Fan's picture

who are all the "treading water for 3 years" guys on your list you want gone?

COW's picture

Quarless
Sherrod
Bush
House
Kuhn
Worthy
B.Jones
Taylor
Raji

jeremyjjbrown's picture

I don't think you even watch the Packers play. Kuhn is one of the main reasons the Packers beat the Bears at Solder Field and won the NFC North Championship.

If your going to make lists, please try to make ones that aren't completely laughable.

http://archive.packersnews.com/article/20131229/PKR01/312290368/Kuhn-blo...

COW's picture

OK.
Kuhn can stay.

COW's picture

But all that play really did was cost us Ryan Shazier.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

If you don't consider beating the Bears at Soldier Field to win the NFC North Championship a worthy endeavor then there it is without question that you are no Packer Fan.

COW's picture

Who cares about divisions?

When you have Aaron Rodgers.... every year you don't win the Super Bowl is a wasted year.

Once Rodgers is gone you'll be looking at another 2 decades or so before even being able to sniff a championship.

Stop wasting Rodgers.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Not getting into the playoffs to get a better draft pick would be wasting Rodgers.

Do us all a favor and stop wasting O2.

Evan's picture

You win the Super Bowl by first making the playoffs.

Lamenting a playoff berth because it cost a team a couple draft pick slots is insanity.

COW's picture

There are playoff teams and there are playoff teams.

Packers were never a threat to win the SB last year.
Going to the playoffs was nice and all - but we all knew what was going to happen.

In my book gaining Shazier and Nicholas to replace B.Jones and Quarless would have easily trumped winning game 16 and losing the next week.

Evan's picture

The playoffs are a crap shoot. Whether it's the Packers getting hot in 2010, the Cardinals in 2008 or, hell, the 2010 7-9 Seahawks (just to pick a few recent examples), there is no telling what can happen. You never pass up a playoff opportunity.

PackerBacker's picture

I bet people said the same thing about Favre in 2001 or so.

We were incredibly fortunate to find Rodgers after Favre. But to say that we won't be able to do it again is not true.

Tough, but not impossible.

Idiot Fan's picture

I will never lament a play that gave us this, even if it cost us a higher draft pick...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpGFZ-yKX6g

COW's picture

even if having lesser players denies you the opportunity to experience more plays like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYU-yxG9nhs

Idiot Fan's picture

Aren't we lucky then that we get to root for a team that had both of those plays?

COW's picture

Correction...
That play cost the Packers...

Shazier
Nicholas
Nix

Could have had all 3.

Evan's picture

And who knows what any of those players will turn out to be.

COW's picture

Pretty much guaranteed that Shazier will be better than any of the ILB's on the current Packer roster and Nicholas will be better than any of the TE's.

Evan's picture

Nope - no such thing is guaranteed.

COW's picture

Fine - barring injury, that is.

Evan's picture

Injury, sure. Or any of the other countless reasons the majority of draft picks never amount to anything.

COW's picture

just gotta be better than Quarless or Jones.
i mean, c'mon.
possibly the worst starting ILB and TE in the entire NFL.

Evan's picture

Who knows. Could be the next Urlacher and Gronk or they both could be out of the league in a few years.

We'll just have to wait to find out.

In the meantime, I'll take the playoffs.

(PS. The Packers won a Super Bowl with Quarless as the primary TE. It's not exactly a death sentence.)

COW's picture

This D is destined to be a disaster.

The team got smaller on the defensive front and less athletic at LB.

ILB's who are poor at shedding blocks being "protected" by smaller, younger, less experienced DL'men... bad recipe.

Safeties will be forced to play up. Back end of the defense will suffer as a result. Opponent's entire offensive playbook (run/pass) will be opened completely up.

Also - Opposing OC's will be licking their chops devising ways to put Mulumba, Hubbard, Bradford, Hawk, B.Jones, Perry, Neal, and/or Peppers in unfavorable pass coverage situations.

The Packers only have 1 LB (in or out) who can hold his own in space... Matthews.

DrealynWilliams's picture

If we have Mulumba,Hubbard,Perry,Neal and/or Peppers in pass coverage we deserve to get burned.

The team got smaller on the defensive front,but the coaches are hoping for more quick penetration.

Look at Daniels. He's short and is barely 300 lbs (lol,like that's small),but his quickness and strength allows him to penetrate and gain leverage quickly in the trenches. Example: look back at the Ravens game. I believe it was 4th and goal in the 2nd QT.......

We're hoping to get that from Jones,(I hope Neal can get back down in the dirt),the rookie Thorton and the Old BJ Raji.

COW's picture

"The team got smaller on the defensive front,but the coaches are hoping for more quick penetration."

Young/inexperienced guys shooting gaps.... yep that sure sounds like a rock-solid way to defend the run.

The Packers will have a bottom 5 run D.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Sooooo,yooooou're saaaaaaayiiiiiiing youuuuuuu don't want the DL to beat their man? You'd prefer them to just hold their guy up and allow the ILBs who are "poor at shedding blocks" to finish the play?

Ohhhhh. I get it.

COW's picture

You do understand that DL'men holding up blockers would keep the LB's clean so that they don't have to shed blocks, right?

DrealynWilliams's picture

And you do understand that there's more than 1 way to be a good Run-Defense,right?

COW's picture

Yep - you can play the penetration game... but you better have some LB's... which the Packers don't.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Well,they were doing something right for the 1st half of the season.

WK 1 F.Gore 21 CAR for 44 YDS
WK 2 A. Morris got his yards in trash time (13 CAR for 107 YDS)
WK 3 G. Bernard 10 CAR for 50 YDS & B. Green-Ellis 10 CAR for 29 YDS
(3.4 YDS AVG)
WK 5 R. Bush 13 CAR for 44 YDS
WK 6 R. Rice 14 CAR for 34 YDS
WK 7 W. McGahee 11 CAR 39 YDS
WK 8 A. Peterson 13 CAR for 60 YDS

COW's picture

...with bigger DL'men.

DrealynWilliams's picture

*throws hands up*

COW's picture

I'm confused as to why you're confused.

-I stated that the Packers moving to a smaller and less experienced DL group will hurt their run D.

-You proposed that they want to shoot gaps instead of holding up blockers.

-I suggested that shooting gaps with small young players might not be the way to go.

-You showed evidence that, at the beginning of last year, they had some success against the run.

-I noted that the the evidence you provided regarding last year's run defense supported my premise that it's better to go with big/experienced DL'men.

Why are you throwing your hands up?

DrealynWilliams's picture

I threw my hands up because I know the direction you will go once I say that the stats I posted were to credit the LBs more than the DL.

So why did the run defense look so bad later on in the season???

COW's picture

Pickett and Jolly couldn't hold up.
Defense was on the field too much (inability to get 3rd down stops + inability of the offense to stay on the field).

DrealynWilliams's picture

And that's why I threw my hands up.

Wasn't there injuries to the LBs? Couldn't that have been the problem?

Raji + Pickett did little to nothing last season.

COW's picture

So you're telling me that you think the injury to Brad - flippin" - Jones is what caused the Packers inability to defend the run.

Brad Jones sucks.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Along with Clay Matthews,Mike Neal and Nick Perry. Yep - I sure am.

The LBs were dropping like flies towards the end of the season. The Pack were playing Datone at OLB!

COW's picture

Annnnnnnnnnnd there's the problem!

We have DE's playing OLB.

This D is a mess.

DrealynWilliams's picture

No,don't try to flip the story.

The run defense began to suffer because injuries to the LBs continued to pile which lead to Datone Jones being forced to take snaps at OLB.

COW's picture

I was referring to Neal and Perry.

COW's picture

"If we have Mulumba,Hubbard,Perry,Neal and/or Peppers in pass coverage we deserve to get burned."

You will see this happening.
All the time.

Evan's picture

"This D is destined to be a disaster."

Or, ya know, maybe it improves?

Idiot Fan's picture

There seems to be a wide range of potential outcomes for this D. You have to believe that Safety has gotten better. CB is likely better with Hayward returning. ILB is what it is, no better or worse than last year probably. OLB is a mystery - IF Perry could stay healthy, he COULD develop; IF Peppers adapts to the new position well he COULD provide pressure. But who knows? I do, however, share Cow's fear about the Dline. Hopefully Raji being back at NT helps him stop sucking. But it's an awfully light line. Are they going to be able to stop the run? Although to be fair, last year's beefy line didn't stop the run in the second half of the season either.

I am so pumped for football to start!

Bearmeat's picture

This is THE question of the year. The offense is going to rock out. The team WILL win the division (unless Rodgers get hurt again). But will the run D look good? If not, no SB again...

IMO this looks almost like a 43 line. There's simply not enough space eaters to run solid 34 looks consistently. But that COULD be a good thing: Peppers, Perry, Neal, Raji, Daniels and Thornton all fit a 43 look well. (better than a 34 IMO).

What happens if Clay is used a la LT in the 80's NYG?? (All over the place, no 1 set position). And everyone else has 43 assignments? The D could be bad at the run - this is true. Their personnel screams hybrid D to me.... so perhaps it won't be a problem.

COW's picture

They have no one to play 4/3 OLB.

PackerBacker's picture

What about Bradford?

COW's picture

maybe, yeah.

DrealynWilliams's picture

We don't necessarily need many "space eaters". The SB run we had in '10 there was only Raji, Pickett and Howard Green (who came in LATER on in the season).

RC Packer Fan's picture

Also, when you look at San Fran and Seattle's defenses would you consider them having a lot of 'space eaters'?

No we don't necessarily have huge body guys, but I don't think we really need them either.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do with the defense this year.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Exactly! It all comes down to talent.

Jets,Cards,Panthers,Seahawks

Top run defenses....

Go look at their starting D-Linemen

COW's picture

Go look at their LB's.

COW's picture

But SF and Sea have good linebackers who can play run and pass.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Are we talking D-Linemen or LBs,Cow....???

COW's picture

I'm talkin'...
1 - the Packers do not have the LB's necessary to run a successful scheme that involves DL'men shooting gaps.
2 - the Packers do not have the DL'men necessary to hold up blockers to keep LB's clean.

Either way they want to play it... they don't have the personnel to make it happen.

Idiot Fan's picture

Two semi-bold predictions:

1. Tolzien improves enough that Flynn gets cut. With other positions, like WR, having extreme logjams, I would guess they wouldn't go with 3 QBs. It's even possible that Flynn wouldn't get signed by anyone and they could keep him on speed dial in the event of an emergency.

2. They keep 6 WRs, and at least one of the ones who would get cut develops a mysterious "injury" that allows them to IR him and keep him for next year.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I wouldn't be surprised at all if one of the receivers gets put on IR or something. seems to happen a lot.

How about for a bold prediction. Packers keep 7 WR's.
Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Adams, Abbrederis, Janis, Harper.

Evan's picture

SEVEN!? That's certainly bold.

My not bold prediction is 2 QBs, 6 WRs, 4 RBs, 4 TEs.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Definitely Bold.

I'm not saying it will absolutely happen, but I can see it happening.

2 QB's, 4 RB's, 4 TE's, 7 WR's, 8 OL = 25 offensive players.

I can see any number of players at each position.

2-3 QB's 4-5 RB's, 4-5 TE's, 6-7 WR's, 8-9 OL.

Idiot Fan's picture

I'm all for bold predictions, but I don't think there's any chance of 7 WRs. Even with six, the sixth receiver won't see the field, barring injury. Keeping six is more about not wanting to cut them. My guess is that they would take a chance trying to stash somebody on the PS before keeping 7.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I think there is a possibility. It all depends on who steps up and plays when the pads and lights come on.

Will it happen, probably not. I am just saying there is a scenerio in which I could see it happening.
I do think its more likely that they keep 6.
I would say right now 80% they keep 6, 15% they keep 5 and 5% they keep 7.

If they were to keep 7 it would be basically like keeping Lane Taylor last year. Keeping a guy they don't want to cut even though they have no plans on playing him.

Idiot Fan's picture

This is one of the most exciting camps in recent memory. So many great battles to watch!

But who are we kidding? We all know that the most likely outcome is that during some practice, Jordy and Cobb will both be running crossing routes and run into each other, injuring both. Most likely requiring a C3-C4 fusion for at least one of them.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I completely agree that this is one of the most exciting camps of recent memory's.

We have competition at just about every position in some way or another. We have legit depth at many positions.
We have something to look forward to seeing in how Capers changes the defense. How incorporates new and returning players.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how he changes the front 7 of the D. With Peppers coming in, and moving Raji back to his natural position at NT. New players like Thornton and Bradford coming in. Returning players looking to improve like Jones, Boyd, Neal, Daniels, Perry and Worthy.
Also does someone else step up at ILB, like Lattimore or Barrington?

I'm really looking forward to camp.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Wait...I want to play too.

My bold prediction is that House will push for a starting CB position just as he did pre-shoulder injury.

Idiot Fan's picture

In this scenario, who does he beat out? Tramon?

DrealynWilliams's picture

Yep. House beats out Tramon. So the CB #1 Sam Shields and CB #2 Davon House.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Thats really bold, especially considering Williams played his best in the 2nd half of the season last year since the Super Bowl year.

Bearmeat's picture

House will push for a starting role... in 2015.. next to Sam with Casey inside and Hyde as dime. Tramon finishes out his contract in style and then the Vikings continue their trend of paying too much for washed up Packers.

DrealynWilliams's picture

And I'm going to guess that "mysterious injury" will go to Janis UNLESS he's a ST demon.

COW's picture

There is zero chance (in my opinion) that they would go with Just Rodgers and Tolzien. They have no idea what Tolzien would do in live action.

He would have to absolutely demolish Flynn in the preseason (which I don't see happening).

Packers are ultra-conservative.... they'll go with the "known quantity" in Flynn.

Only chance Tolzien makes the roster is if they keep 3.

Evan's picture

I agree.

Idiot Fan's picture

I do think that it's more likely that they will keep all three (hence the "semi-bold prediction"), but I don't find it utterly impossible that Tolzien could improve enough to make Flynn expendable. He actually does have some real-game experience from last year. I thought he showed some promise last year but just wasn't quite ready. I'm interested to see what an offseason in the Magical McCarthy School of QBs does.

And, be honest, if Flynn gets cut, especially at the end of camp, do you think he gets signed elsewhere? I would put that at about 50/50.

COW's picture

"Magical McCarthy School"

Myth.

Idiot Fan's picture

I was being somewhat facetious :).

MarkinMadison's picture

Agreed. It's ironic that COW is arguing on the one hand that the Packers need to cut all of the dead wood (because we know what they are) but then on the other hand arguing that there is NO CHANCE that the Packer keep Tolzien over Flynn, because we don't know what Tolzien is, and we know that Flynn is, at best, a career backup. I think there is a decent chance that Tolzien wins the job - maybe 1-in-3 or 1-in-4. Better arm strength than Flynn. The decision-making will come.

Evan's picture

In the center question, I like how bench press reps = toughness.

RC Packer Fan's picture

lol. i didn't catch that before.

I know most think Tretter will win the battle and I do as well. I just am going to say don't rule out Linsley. I watched some tape of him recently and I was impressed.
He is able to anchor very well, and I was really impressed with his snapping ability. Every snap in that game hit the QB right in the hands from the shotgun. I know Tretter will have gained experience learning how to play C in the offseason, but its different in games. Linsley would appear to have an advantage there.
I do think this could be a bigger competition then some think.

Zach Kruse's picture

Is there really any way to measure toughness? The number of reps were put into the post more for information's sake than anything else.

RC Packer Fan's picture

To be fair, Linsley plays with toughness. Its on his tape.

And I understood why you put the numbers on there Zach. But yeah, the numbers of reps doesn't necessarily correlate with toughness. Its strength not toughness that the numbers represent...

Great Article though Zach.

Evan's picture

"Is there really any way to measure toughness?"

Not really, no. Which is why it's kind of a silly characteristic.

C's picture

Tretter was no slouch. Officially 29 at the combine, but MJS/Dunne had an April of 13' article verifying he's been at '30+' on the bench.

Evan's picture

So, in other words, Tretter is 20% less tough than Linsley.

Clay Zombo's picture

My bold predictions are that Lyerla, Hubbard and Janis make the team because of their athletic ability and size.

DuJuan Harris, Jared Abbrederis and Carl Bradford all contribute more than expected; 2 rookies(4th and 5th round) and a 3rd string HB.

Datone Jones starts to fulfill his promise as a 1st round pick with 7+ sacks in his 2nd year.

Of course all of this depends on them staying healthy and with this team that seems unlikely.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I can see that happening.

Idiot Fan's picture

I feel like I have a vague memory of an article, like one of the ones where McGinn interviews anonymous personnel people in the league, where one personnel guy said that Hubbard was "just terrible". Anybody else remember that?

RC Packer Fan's picture

Honestly. I tend to ignore a lot of what McGinn writes. He is good, but way to much negativity for my liking.

COW's picture

Truth hurts.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Nah, I get enough negativity reading your posts Cow. I don't need to read full articles of it.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Outside of Hubbard's size I'm not buying into the hype surrounding this guy. Show me some film,please.

Clay Zombo's picture

I know his final season (Junior year) wasn't all that great but he did have a pretty good sophomore year with 7 sacks, 11.5 tackles for loss and 3 forced fumbles so he is capable of playing well.

Not sure what happened last year but with 34.5 inch arms on a 6'6" frame he deserves at least a year to see if he can be developed.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I have high hopes for Hubbard this year. But to answer your question I do remember an article quoting an anonymous scout that indicated he was "just terrible" in his last season but I can't remember who wrote it. There were other articles suggesting that Hubbard has a bad attitude and a sense of entitlement, but which did not question his talent. Here is a link to one of those articles:

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/4/19/5625936/2014-nfl-draft-adrian-hubb...

Idiot Fan's picture

Was it ever stated why Perry was out during minicamps? That dude needs to get, and stay, healthy.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Ooo! What about this one:

Mike Daniels + Datone Jones

will have more sacks than

Clay Matthews + all MLBs

Idiot Fan's picture

You're just teeing that one up for Cow, aren't you? :)

DrealynWilliams's picture

Lol,shhhh...

COW's picture

It'll be a tie.

Jones/Daniels = 7
Matthews/ILB's = 7

Clay Zombo's picture

Now your just being phucking retarded, oops excuse me I mean mentally handicapped. Last year Jones and Daniels combined for 10 sacks and Matthews and the ILBs combined for about 15 so go piss up a rope you dope.

COW's picture

Matthews will only play 4 games this season.

D. Jones gets 2 (when will you guys see that this dude is bad? Go watch some games again. I mean, he's straight-up invisible. Rookie/ankle/blah blah blah).

Teams know about Daniels now.

Evan's picture

4 games? !

Write that one down, boys.

COW's picture

In fact - as much as I don't want to say it - I think this thumb thing could be a career ender.

If it breaks again... that could be curtains.

Idiot Fan's picture

He just needs to get one of those Luke Skywalker robot hands, and he'll be all set.

MarkinMadison's picture

"as much as I don't want to say it"

For some reason, this really made me laugh.

Almost as much as the fact that over 1/2 the people polled here put Mike McCarthy and Mike Holmgren ahead of Vince Lombardi as the greatest coach in Packers history. Seriously? Dude won over 75% of his regular season games, 90% of his playoff games, and five out of seven NFL Championships. How on earth can he NOT be the greatest coach in Packers' history?

Clay Zombo's picture

You are a clown man. I did watch all the games, many times in fact.

Yeah teams know about Daniels but that doesn't mean they can stop him.

I guess the 3.5 sacks Datone tallied last year was a result of him being invisible right? I will bet anything you want that Mr Jones gets more than 2 sacks this year, anything. You game?

COW's picture

I don't gamble $.

Clay Zombo's picture

You don't read too well either I guess. That's why I said "anything", ya dig?

RC Packer Fan's picture

Where do you put Peppers in that mix?

mcduff67's picture

With the Pack receivers being injury prone, they should keep 7 maybe even 8 to be safe?

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