Packers Deep Dive - Third Round Pick Ty'Ron Hopper

A full scouting report on the former Missouri linebacker who the Packers selected 91st overall in the 2024 NFL Draft.

In one of the more controversial moves of Green Bay’s draft, they selected Missouri linebacker Ty’Ron Hopper with the 91st overall pick.

This was considered by most to be a reach, with Hopper ranked 172nd on the consensus big board. There are certainly areas of concern on his tape, but also plenty of encouraging signs.

General Info and Background:

Hopper grew up in South Carolina, attending Gaffney High School and playing cornerback and safety, before transferring to Roswell High School in Georgia, moving in with his aunt and uncle to help his prospects of being recruited by colleges.

He immediately moved to linebacker and excelled, receiving college offers from Alabama, Florida, Miami, Minnesota, North Carolina, Ole Miss, South Carolina and Tennessee. The four-star recruit committed to Florida.

The linebacker spent three years with the Gators, tallying only 75 defensive snaps in the first two seasons (he redshirted in 2019 and the 2020 season was shortened due to the pandemic), before taking on a bigger role in 2021.

Dan Mullen, the coach who recruited him, was fired after the 2021 campaign, and Hopper subsequently transferred to Missouri, where he played two seasons, being named Second-team All-SEC in both.

Hopper ended his college career with 10 sacks, 46 quarterback hurries, 165 tackles and one interception. He attended the Senior Bowl but could not participate.

Measurements:

6’1 ⅔, 231 lbs. ARMS - 31.375”. HANDS - 8.875”. 40-YARD DASH - 4.68. 10-YARD SPLIT - 1.64. VERT - 36”. BROAD - 10’4”. SHUTTLE - 4.46. 3-CONE - 7.29.

Strengths:

In run defense, Hopper shows the ability to find the ball and get the person carrying it to the ground. He showed he can beat would-be blockers to the spot or fight them off, and manages to sift through bodies at the line of scrimmage to locate the football.

Hopper has the range to stay with running backs across the field on outside runs and chase them down for tackles. He is effective at reaching or diving for tackles, but also showed he can wrap up.

There are plenty of examples of Hopper meeting a running back in the hole, not letting his eyes get too big, arriving on balance and making a secure tackle. When he meets a back in the hole, the play usually ends right there.

He hits with power and can also disrupt at the line of scrimmage, either by crashing into it to plug gaps and muddy the picture for the ball carrier, or by knifing through off the snap into the backfield.

In coverage, Hopper is comfortable picking up a route, passing it off and picking up a new one. He also showed the ability to carry tight ends up the seam and stay in phase, using his physicality to keep them close.

Hopper has good, disciplined eyes in coverage. There are impressive reps where he keeps his eyes on the QB, shades over a route to discourage them from throwing there, then closes on the ball when they try to scramble. He is able to cut off routes and then drive to the ball when the time is right.

There is plenty of pure athleticism to Hopper’s game. He shows his speed in recovering to cut off a route which has gone behind him, or chasing down athletic quarterbacks like Jayden Daniels as they try to escape the pocket.

He has the juice and explosiveness to be effective as a blitzer, can beat chip blocks or squeeze between two offensive linemen.

The linebacker does a good job of being the clean up guy. If a ball-carrier gets to the second level, he is frequently the guy who arrives on the scene, even when it is not his responsibility, to stop the bleeding. He also communicates effectively with teammates pre-and-post-snap, directing traffic as necessary.

Weaknesses:

While there is plenty to like about Hopper’s game, there is a lot of inconsistency too.

He will struggle to get off blocks, despite trying, and pulling offensive linemen can completely wash him out of the play. He gets pushed back off the ball too easily at times.

Hopper is a ‘dive at the ball-carrier’s feet’ tackler by nature, and this has its natural drawbacks. His missed tackle rate was 16.7% in college. He lacks true stopping power and can struggle to finish as a result, allowing opponents to slip away.

While he often has the athleticism to make up for it, Hopper can take bad angles in run support, particularly on outside runs. He may not get away with this at the next level.

The lack of agility which was evident in his pre-draft testing also shows up on tape. He can over pursue in the run game, allowing cut back lanes and then not have the change of direction to adjust and avoid getting run by.

This stiffness also means he fails to finish opportunities to get athletic quarterbacks to the ground.

In coverage, Hopper can get grabby, and due to his limitations in terms of agility, shifty backs or slot receivers are going to be bad matchups for him in man coverage. He will let pass catchers slip behind him on routes and realize too late.

Hopper could also trigger faster on routes in front of him at times and give himself a better opportunity to break up the pass or limit yards after the catch.

Overall:

While selecting Hopper at 91st overall may still have been aggressive, there are plenty of elements to like in his game. If the Packers can get him attacking downhill consistently, which appears to be the plan in Jeff Hafley’s new defense, Hopper could be very effective.

He will likely not be relied upon in coverage too much, and still has some technique issues to clean up on the run defense side of things, specifically as a tackler, but Hopper should still be a solid contributor on defense and also for Rich Bissacia on special teams.

 

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Mark Oldacres is a sports writer from Birmingham, England and a Green Bay Packers fan. You can follow him on twitter at @MarkOldacres

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stockholder's picture

May 03, 2024 at 06:27 am

Another LB? @91 ?- Rating 6th rd.
Wasn't Gray a better choice.
If not others, who were faster & bigger.
- A rotational piece @91
Seems like a lost in value.
The 3rd round curse will continue.
(Gute's Hamster Wheel.)
Hopefully he'll surprise us.

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Untylu1968's picture

May 03, 2024 at 07:22 am

Are you the local weatherman that predicts rain every day?

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Coldworld's picture

May 03, 2024 at 07:25 am

No he’s the blind man telling us the color of flowers.

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10ve 💚's picture

May 03, 2024 at 07:30 am

Ah! That makes sense. I always wondered about his lack of coherence.

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stockholder's picture

May 03, 2024 at 11:15 am

Thats Gute's department.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 03, 2024 at 07:45 am

I would worry about the guy @ #45. Hopper could turn out to be the better player.

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dobber's picture

May 03, 2024 at 08:02 am

Sounds like the Kraft/Musgrave debate of 2023.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 03, 2024 at 09:29 am

Yes, of epic proportions...

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murf7777's picture

May 04, 2024 at 07:54 am

I was one who liked Kraft over Musgrave and Kraft did end the 3rd round curse. I cannot say the same about Hopper, not his fault, it's because I think Edge Cooper is so instinctive along with being very athletic, he has pro bowl written all over him.

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May 06, 2024 at 09:10 am

I was a Kraft person simply because I had no confidence in Musgrave's ability to stay on the field. I cringed when they took Musgrave and was thrilled with Kraft when they got him.

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mnbadger's picture

May 03, 2024 at 12:25 pm

Dear mr stockholder, I've always read your posts hoping to understand the perspective of a fan that dislikes the Packers, of which there are many where I come from.
While I don't understand their rantings either, they are wearing really ugly purple shirts, hats, socks and usually shoes while spewing them.
You, on the other hand, are doing it here on CHTV?
What are the colors of your shirts, hats, socks and shoes?
GPG!

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barutanseijin's picture

May 03, 2024 at 04:04 pm

SH is negative. That’s fine; his is one mode of fandom.

You may follow the Packers in a different way, but just because SH does it differently, doesn’t make him a Vikings fan.

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stockholder's picture

May 03, 2024 at 06:42 pm

My colors are green and Gold.
I am No little kid.
My team has not won since 2010.
And I don't believe they will ever
win a super-Bowl under Gute.
I don't see it as negative.
I see it as thinking out load.
Most think it's rocking the boat.
I'm just nobodies suck ass.
Especially Gute's.

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NitschkeFan's picture

May 03, 2024 at 08:21 pm

"My team has not won since 2010" - you are doomed to unhappiness if as a sports fan you are only happy when your team wins a championship game. Most North American sports leagues have 30-32 teams. And the NFL has a salary cap, a reverse order draft, free agency, and a weighted schedule to make it more difficult after a good season.

Everything is geared to find competitive balance. Statistically your favorite team will possibly win 1 out of 30 seasons. That is 29 years of misery for the likes of you. The fact that the Packers are the 2nd winningest team in the NFL over the past 30 years should have brought you many great Sunday's and moments of joy. But every one of your posts is full of misery and unhappiness.

If you can't enjoy the journey of watching players and teams develop, makes some great plays, win some games, contend for division titles, and yes make deep playoff runs that ultimately fall short of a championship, then you are going to have a sad life as a sports fan.

Here at CHTV we all want to see the Packers win (except for the sad trolls). But it is enjoyable to take the journey through a season, including the draft for some of us diehards. It brings us some fun and the hope that this year will be one of those great ones.

You write that you are "nobodies suck ass". Sorry but you seem like your whole life "sucks ass". Good luck and seriously consider therapy.

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AnotherPackFan's picture

May 03, 2024 at 08:46 pm

Nitschke, I don't know why anyone feeds this troll. He posts 99% complaints and negativity. he is just a troll. If was was an actual fan that felt they way he claims, then he would have already committed suicide.

During the draft if there was a pick that was not highly rated by his bible "PFF" he would post that and ignore any positive analysis of the player. Then when PFF gives the Packers draft class a B+ he conveniently ignores his bible and keeps writing how terrible Gute drafts. He is just trolling you.

Why someone with over 30,000 downvotes doesn't get kicked off the site is the real sad thing here.

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stockholder's picture

May 03, 2024 at 09:25 pm

I never saw Gute get higher than a B+
His lowest was C-.
But if you can make friends
by attacking me as a Troll.
I'm happy for you.
Even if you exaggerate.

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stockholder's picture

May 03, 2024 at 09:16 pm

So far there about 30 guys that do nothing
but praise Gute.
So naturally If I don't tell you how wonderful
this GM is. And support his decisions.
It's murder by number.
Still I watch the games for excitement.
Not Bitching.
Who made you a shrink?
Like most here -
You like to flip flop.
When a player excels and earns Praise.
I am the first to congratulate him.
Truthfully how many attacked MLF
this season? Good fans or Trolls?

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NitschkeFan's picture

May 03, 2024 at 09:34 pm

(I assume you are writing to "Another" but I'll comment)

Hey Stock, I am glad the you watch the games and enjoy the excitement. It is entertainment after all is said and done. Sure here on a Packer fan board you are going to get overwhelming positivity, but some do question draft picks, play calls, roster decisions. It is not all blindly positive.

But the questions are more like "why" or "what did they see" in player X when some internet draft board ranked player Y ahead of him?

Your doubts are almost always followed by strongly negative words about the franchise or Gute or the past. I for example didn't understand the pick of Lloyd over Jaylen Wright. I wanted an explanation but realized I will never get one. But I can acknowledge that Lloyd was ranked by multiple outside agencies as being very close to Wright.

I think if you re-read your posts you will see that they are not just disagreements but really relentless disparagement of the team's front office.

We've had 30 pretty damn good years.

statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-total-nfl-wins-last-30-years

Hey, and the other guy was right. Though I think it is probably 3 or 4 years too soon, I just looked up PFF, and they gave the Packers Draft a big fat B+

When dozens of NFL analysts / writers / Non-Packer "homers" think the team had earned a "B" it is far from the gospel. But if you thought it was a D-, maybe you should try a little introspection.

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May 03, 2024 at 09:52 pm

You assume wrong.
The second comment was yours.
My negativity is aimed at Gute.
Or a writers Confirmation of
praising him.
"I call it disagreeing with them."
And we have seen a lot of that
for the past 6 yrs.
Even using the press for him.
Like we're sheep that need tending.
You are correct about 30 years.
But Pff does make a lot of mistakes.

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May 04, 2024 at 12:31 pm

The Herd moved to cheese tv after the "free-speech" segments were shut down on Packers.com

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mnbadger's picture

May 04, 2024 at 04:08 pm

"I'm just nobody's suck ass."
Eau contraire Stock!
Have you already forgotten about our former qb1?
You had a bit of a crush on him If I Recall?
For the record, devil's advocate looks good on you.
GPG!

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May 03, 2024 at 07:16 am

It's encouraging that the good plays look good, and the bad plays don't really look that bad. In one of them the O-lineman was in perfect position to block Hopper. Not sure what any LB could've done in that situation. On the other play, his only hope of getting the tackle was to dive at the ball carrier's legs. There was misdirection on the play, and for a second he thought he had to cover a receiver in the end zone, then he had to work his way through the ref to move toward the ball carrier. Plays like this make me wonder if missed tackle numbers are inflated for players who have more range, as they make tackle attempts on plays that slower players would not even be able to get in on. Sort of like how shortstops with more range may have more errors.

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May 03, 2024 at 10:27 am

"It's encouraging that the good plays look good, and the bad plays don't really look that bad."

Exactly my thoughts viewing the video examples, Greg. Actually assuaged my lukewarm reaction at the pick.

See reasons why Team Gute wanted him and hand him over to spark plug LB coach Campanile to coach up. He has the backer skills. Just needs to sharpen the saw for NFL action.

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May 03, 2024 at 07:25 am

I am not a draftnik and what I know about most of these players could fit in a thimble, but I do read the evaluations of others and I was surprised Gute took Hopper when Wilson (LB) and Kinchens (S) were still on the board. I thought either would have been a better value than Hopper. According to the DIC, Gute drafted Hopper about two rounds early. Clearly Gute disagrees and he certainly knows a lot more than I do. I guess time will tell........

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May 03, 2024 at 07:53 am

Gute’s going to follow the GB board and not be too concerned what the DIC thinks. If he takes player A when the DIC says players B and C are better values, it simply means the GB board looks different.

Naturally this difference of evaluation results in good selections as well as mistakes. We remember the mistakes, and they really do burn (Watt/King, Humphrey/Myers) but we NEVER hear about the opposite!

How about “Do you realize when Gutey picked Elgton Jenkins, he could have picked Morty Snodgrass out of Prairie View?”

The other problem with “picked so and so when Player D was on the board” is that Player D is made up of EVERY SINGLE PLAYER still available. That’s a pretty deep pool to swim in.

None of this should be taken as a complaint. It is exactly this complicated, inexact process that makes the whole draft interesting, compelling, and worthy of debate.

GPG!

PS “Exactly the Inexact” could be a cool t-shirt

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May 03, 2024 at 08:00 am

"How about “Do you realize when Gutey picked Elgton Jenkins, he could have picked Morty Snodgrass out of Prairie View?”"

Just like the prairie view, there's plenty of snodgrass in my yard view.

Pretty firmly convinced that Luke Getsy tipped the Packers off on Jenkins, having just been hired back after being MSU's OC.

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 03, 2024 at 09:01 am

Yeah, I was out killing dandelions the other day…my brain has an extremely permeable membrane…😉

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dobber's picture

May 03, 2024 at 07:57 am

I was somewhat dismayed at 91 with this pick because I was hoping for another stud OL--there were really good OL to be had well into round 5--and he felt like someone who would go later. LBs who can hit what's in front of them are a dime a dozen...he seems to be a little better than that, IMLO. At least a core ST player right away and brings some cover skills which gives hope that he can grow into a 3-down LB at some point. With McDuffie's contract coming up after 2024, that could be soon.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 03, 2024 at 12:10 pm

I felt like that too, but the Math on a 4-3 just didn't work out for me without some more LBs who could actually contribute. 64 snaps in an average game, half of them in the 4-3, and the other half in a 4-2, is 160 total snaps for linebackers. You want Quay Walker out there as much as possible, so let's not give him much rest and play him 60 snaps. That's still 100, and considering people do get hurt, I don't see how it's done without at least 4 LBs . Walker and McDuffie were two, Cooper made three.... we still needed a guy who'd be on the field a lot, plus special teams.

You know I wanted more Oline help, but I think I finally understand what the operating assumptions were at 1265 regarding the guys we have. They like the starters .they are not going to reshuffle everything, they're just going to add to it. Morgan at LT makes Walker a good backup. We'll see what the FAs and Day 3 guys can do to help us. Then next year, we can add to the line again, we can resign/extend Tom, replace Myers, etc. etc.

I wanted a wholesale infusion of stud Olinemen. I think the Packers are thinking more like they'll spread that infusion over a couple of seasons.

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May 03, 2024 at 04:22 pm

I think Quay will be out there as much as possible, but I am also interested to see how the snaps are divided between McDuffie, Cooper, and Hopper in base vs nickel. We shall see!

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May 04, 2024 at 07:59 am

After Kraft last year and what I think is going to be a win with Lloyd this year, Gutey couldn't resist to get back to the WTH 3rd round pick!

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Coldworld's picture

May 03, 2024 at 07:44 am

Hopper is an attacking LB. He’d have been an awful pick for a Barry D. Although he’s been adding weight over recent seasons, he’s simply not big enough to play the wait and diagnose game.

In contrast he’s extremely physical when attacking the gaps or the QB. Pro Football Focus had Hopper ranked sixth in the nation among all off-the-ball linebackers with 32 pressures in 2022. Last year they rushed him less until late for schematic reasons per his coach (former Packers LB D. J. Smith).

According to Smith, Hopper was playing at 238 at one point last season having come in as a transfer at 220 without losing speed, which is the period he struggled greatest with being washed out. He was down to 227 at testing. He’s a very successful tackler in a run and shoot context. He needs to improve angles when reacting more to the play

Hopper at this point needs to add upper body mass& power and is an attacking option as a LB as well as a situational speed rusher inside and around the tackles. He can play some big nickel. I can see why he excites Hafley. I think his role will grow in time as well. Ideal third non-SAM LB profile where we had none and the potential to be more in future and a sun package piece straight away. McDuffie is the SAM, probably backed by Wilson.

If you want to read D. J. Smith’s rather ebullient take : https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/nfl-draft-coach-on-tyron-hopper

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May 03, 2024 at 10:02 am

Ebullient.. vocab word of the day, right there

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May 03, 2024 at 10:33 am

Indubitably!

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Houndog's picture

May 03, 2024 at 08:37 am

As some, if not most, of this draft has question marks attached to where they were drafted I wonder if we're seeing the 'Draft the guy that fits OUR system" type of thoughts? Specifically on the Defensive guys.
As none of us know for certain exactly what Hafley's planning, that's about as much as I can take from this and it would seem logical.
The good news is that even if they totally flop, it can't be that much worse than Joe Barry!

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Johnblood27's picture

May 03, 2024 at 09:53 am

Jackson OR,
CB Khyree went 108
coulda
shoulda?
woulda!
gutey #pride
need draft poor*

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May 03, 2024 at 10:33 am

While Morgan might have been a small surprise @ 25. Hopper was a large one @91. It's not that surprises are a rarity in a Gutekunst draft. Because they're not. Except Hopper was one that was earlier than I expected - later followed-up with the Williams pick @ 111 (after moving-up 15 spots). At this point I realized that the Packers were selecting specific scheme-fit players vs. consensus board players. That being so, I have no strong opinion on the Hopper (and Williams) pick. Save they appear to be the best players (along with Oladapo) to fulfill the new Hafley D. Thus proving, once again, that there is no such thing as a "reach" for Gutekunst.

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Coldworld's picture

May 03, 2024 at 12:12 pm

These picks seem to have been very much driven by a match with desired attributes or roles. If my wants list. differs from the consensus then my BPA assessment will too.

What matters is whether they were both correct in the assessed wants and in their matching of Hopper and Williams to them. That only time will tell. The last time we did this was Deguara and Dillon.

Dillon turned out to be a bit of a sheep in wolfs clothing given his draft position. Right role idea, wrong pick perhaps, although I also question if LaFleur’s usage would not have impeded any power back.

As to Deguara, by the time he got going the role that led to him being picked had disappeared and he was never utilized as such. We never really deployed the H back offensively, which was a key reason LaFleur wanted one. Instead he was a makeshift undersized TE/FB, at which he was never a great fit.

Let’s hope that this time the need perception and choices hold up better. If they do, these might be steal
Picks for us. If not then they will probably prove to be over drafted. However, I do get the impression that Hafley is rather clearer in his definition of needs and intended uses than LaFleur was.

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May 03, 2024 at 02:47 pm

It seems that Gutekunst is utilizing volume picking - i.e., making multiple picks at the one position - thinking that at least one will be successful. He does it perennially with the O-line. While last year at TE. This year the Safety position - with 3 picks.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 03, 2024 at 10:42 am

It matters less where the "consensus" big board pigeon holes a prospect (many draft "experts" never even played football).

What matters more is how the prospect fits the defense he will play in.

Hopper is nothing if not disruptive...good on the attack. Seems to have "vision and break" skills coveted by Hafley and LB Coach Campanile.

Unlike Barry, who had Walker covering sub 4.4 receivers deep across his middle zone, Hopper will not have his talents wasted by Haf. And this year, neither will Walker.

With the new KO format, Hopper will immediately contribute on teams.

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LLCHESTY's picture

May 03, 2024 at 12:11 pm

Consensus matters a little. Lately Gutey has done much better picking value vs the consensus than picking reaches vs consensus.

He reached on four players according to the consensus, a little more than you'd like to see.

https://twitter.com/zachkruse2/status/1784954699063476563?t=Mtvj7yQLhmSD...

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Coldworld's picture

May 03, 2024 at 12:28 pm

The consensus was all over the place this year. By half way through the draft +\- 32 spots is meaningless given that. Monk is a player I think simply got overlooked.

The variation there is so big really because he wasn’t on the consensus draft listings and had no buzz. Looking at some who were, I believe that’s the fault of the consensus not an indictment of his actual Merit or where he was drafted. One of the reason he was a player I mocked beforehand.

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May 03, 2024 at 01:00 pm

It's kind of funny that Pauline said scouts were telling him that people were sleeping on Monk but he still had him 284 on his big board. He actually had Hopper at 93 but overall had most of the players they took way lower than they were taken. For some reason this crappy system won't let me link it but it's on Sportskeeda.

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May 03, 2024 at 02:18 pm

Go with the scouts over even the better pundits. I believe he was basically accepting he never got round to revisiting his order in relation to Monk. That’s what happens with low profile types sometimes.

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NitschkeFan's picture

May 03, 2024 at 01:11 pm

Not sure if this has been posted, but a composite of 20 different "draft ratings" is summarized in one nice chart here,

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2024/04/29/2024-nfl-draft-grades-steelers...

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Leatherhead's picture

May 03, 2024 at 06:03 pm

I clicked on that and took a look. It's a nice colorful chart and it has decimal points and is survey of the subjective opinions of 20 or so guys in the business.

I think the Packers drafted a starting LT, a starting Safety, two LBs who'll play a lot, and a RB who apparently should have been ranked higher than he was. If it works out that way, this is an A, and I don't care what those other folks say.

That's on the first two days. I don't see what other teams, at this point, you could say did better. Let's see what it looks like on opening day. I think the rookie QBs in Chicago and Minnesota will struggle. I think the Lions drafted a CB with a RAS that gives him no hope of covering the Packers WRs

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May 03, 2024 at 08:31 pm

LH, it is all part of the entertainment that is pro sports. Of course all of those writers know that you can't judge a draft until years go by and you see how those picks turn out. But they have to churn out content. I find it just another football article in a long offseason, one of the thousands we will read that really don't mean a thing until the games start.

Occasionally we find some writers do look back 3 or 4 years later at their draft grades. They usually find that they were correct on a few, and wrong on many. Giving a draft grade a B is kind of neutral. If a few picks do well while the others flame out (as most team drafts work ) then the writer can say "yup" that was a B.

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May 04, 2024 at 12:48 am

"They usually find that they were correct on a few, and wrong on many. Giving a draft grade a B is kind of neutral. "

Sounds like most GMs too.

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May 03, 2024 at 02:58 pm

Imagine if the Packers had drafted Payton Wilson instead of Hopper. When the draft grades came out, it would've been raining A's on the Packers. It would've all been very exciting. I hope they made the right choice with Hopper. They weren't the only team to have major concerns about Wilson's injury history.

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May 03, 2024 at 06:48 pm

Truly. Everyone knows that speculative draft grades are the determining factor in wins and losses.

You can look it up. Very exciting.

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stockholder's picture

May 03, 2024 at 07:04 pm

Congratulations Greg.
Even if Gute didn't .
There were higher rated LBs.

Gute drafted two TEs back to back.

Think if he would have done that
same thinking with S or LB.
Back to back is the higher ratio of success.

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May 04, 2024 at 12:40 pm

Cooper was rated #87 and Hopper #93 by Pauline. I still maintain Cooper was the reach and we will see if he can get through NFL level, O-linemen. He seems to fit the speed guy off the edge profile like Jonah Ellis. I cannot see him holding ground inside with 4-2 looks.

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May 04, 2024 at 10:50 am

I am in the minority that says they don't like a pick when it happens, and then we get blasted for not being true Packers fans. Or we get told we know nothing compared to everyone else. It's really just our opinion and just like everyone else, we are entitled to having one. Just because I disagree with the Hopper pick, it does not mean I will cheer against him or for him to have bad games so I can say I told you so. I want the Packers to win no matter who is on the field.

That said, with who was still available when #91 came, I thought that would be a great spot to trade back and gain 2 more mid to later round picks. Gutey is really good at this and almost always come out way ahead in his tradebacks. With a 5 to 10 spot trade back, Mason McCormick would have easily been my choice, and maybe Hopper in the late 4th or 5th.

I am all in for comfortably reaching for players we want and said so before the draft, because from #58 on, all of our picks were late in the rounds. Trading up and reaching is another thing altogether. I am, like Gutey said before the draft, a big advocate of getting as many picks as possible. It lets you take flyers on players with talent those last 3 rounds. Or locks up players that are quality UFDAs.

This will all work out whether I, or others, disagree with some of the picks or trading up. The Pack is starting a long stay at the top of the NFL, let's win it all.

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May 04, 2024 at 12:48 pm

He hit his mark with Hopper rated #93, by Pauline. The starting guards were all off the "board" by the early third round with Coleman going early@ #67. Beebe falling down from rd two. McCormick(119) went where he was slotted in the 4th round, projected around #129. The selection of Williams over Mustapha may come back to haunt them.

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